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Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #45 –
Quote from: LP – on
Chesser for a newbie is pretty clean, we have quite a few long terms that could learn a thing or two, I'd have to watch the disposals closely before deciding what is good or bad, but I have to say I haven't noticed anything too negative, no worse than some of our front line.

A goal assist and five score involvements from a winger is a pretty good return, particularly when we only managed 10.15

However, I would bring Acres in for Chesser.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #46 –
Quote from: DJC – on
However, I would bring Acres in for Chesser.
I understand, but Acres has to be durable not just willing.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #48 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Acres with 1 shoulder is better than Chesser with 2.

Acres is a big unit who works the full length of the ground.  Chesser is a speedster who covers the ground quickly and can put pressure on opposition runners.  Both meet a need but, in this instance, I’d prefer strength to speed.

Acres looked a class above everyone else in the VFL - as he should!
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #49 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Acres with 1 shoulder is better than Chesser with 2.
It assumes Acres will be remaining on the ground if injured.

I feel it's a bigger problem for us as we do not have the midfield leg speed to cover the loss of a deep running type player, regardless of what our selection mix looks like, our A-Grade starting midfield is basically slowish relative to the opposition. So we need plenty of blokes out there who can be there from the 1st bounce to the final siren, otherwise the likes of Cripps, Hewett, Walsh, Cerra, etc., etc.. run themselves into the ground chasing people they can't catch.

As an aside, we were lucky last week when Williams returned, if he hadn't we might have fallen short instead of limping across the line!

On the ruck issues, I think Reidy and Pitto are too similar, Pitto is in good form so I'd go with HOK as the backup, he's more mobile but obviously not as physical as the other two, he can be angry though! ;D Maybe when we play the likes of Norp, we go Pitto and Reidy vs Xerri. Did we get it back to front in the first two rounds, or was our hand forced to play Reidy when we thought he wasn't ready because we knew HOK wasn't ready? To me Pitto and / or Reidy are the better match for Nankervis, and HOK is a better match for a more mobile type.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #50 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: LP – on
Chesser for a newbie is pretty clean, we have quite a few long terms that could learn a thing or two, I'd have to watch the disposals closely before deciding what is good or bad, but I have to say I haven't noticed anything too negative, no worse than some of our front line.
Thurs night wasnt Chessers best work.
Turnover merchant like Florent, not great under pressure either. I'd like to see Lucas Camporeale on a wing.
Acres will probably get an upgrade and I do like a taller winger but I think we need to look to the future..

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #51 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Thurs night wasnt Chessers best work.
Turnover merchant like Florent, not great under pressure either. I'd like to see Lucas Camporeale on a wing.
Acres will probably get an upgrade and I do like a taller winger but I think we need to look to the future..
Lucas will be on a wing alright, next year in South Australia I reckon.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #52 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on

Turnover merchant like Florent, not great under pressure either. I'd like to see Lucas Camporeale on a wing.
Acres will probably get an upgrade and I do like a taller winger but I think we need to look to the future..
Lucas will be on a wing alright, next year in South Australia I reckon.
I'm still hopeful he has some more upside and just needs opportunity, same with his brother..

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #53 –
Yep
19 years old....
Late draft picks

They play positions where we have plenty of established players keeping them out at present.
We've also had a few others come onto the list this year with a bit more experience and maturity.
They can develop in the VFL this year and make a case for selection there.
Ben would probably have played last year had he not been suspended.
Lucas got a taste.

All we can ask at this stage is improvement so it will be interesting to see how they go once the VFL kicks off.
They will be battling for a new contract or an extension so you would think they will need to have cracked it for a few senior games by the end of the year.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #54 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Turnover merchant like Florent, not great under pressure either. I'd like to see Lucas Camporeale on a wing.
Hopefully the Campo kids live up to the name, but at the moment progress is slow and a name is all they have to show.

I hope they aren't another case of hype and expectation exceeding capability, they do have time on their side, but it's hard to see why the old man complains about a lack of opportunity. Campo should do a Peter Dean, and tell his kids to put their heads over the footy and go for it, instead of complaining about the lack of gifted games!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #55 –
Dylan Buckley was the same.  Give them time.  He had a turn of pace, and a bit of aggro, and was a bit of a turnover merchant too but he might have had a much longer and finer career had his body help up better (he had that ankle injury that saw him limping off the ground too often).

Lucas threw up in his second game against Hawthorn so he is willing to push himself and he has at worst performed about as well as Chesser has to date in the small sample size of both.

Ultimately, I think we are doing something clever, and trying not to play too many youngsters all at once, which means the opportunities are harder to come by, and something that other clubs have done a lot better than us through the rebuilding years.  You cant afford to play too many sub 50 gamers together, as they are not conditioned, and then lose their heads, which might explain some of these fadeouts we have been having.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #56 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Lucas will be on a wing alright, next year in South Australia I reckon.
I'm still hopeful he has some more upside and just needs opportunity, same with his brother..
You need to earn that opportunity, my guess is the haven't to date. Ive heard whispers Campo senior isnt happy.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #57 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Ultimately, I think we are doing something clever, and trying not to play too many youngsters all at once, which means the opportunities are harder to come by, and something that other clubs have done a lot better than us through the rebuilding years.  You cant afford to play too many sub 50 gamers together, as they are not conditioned, and then lose their heads, which might explain some of these fadeouts we have been having.

The better teams give their youngsters plenty of time to find their feet.  Play them when and/or if they're ready and have earned their place.

A quarter of our team stood inside the circle for the team song on Thursday night and we had seven players wearing the navy blue for the first time against the Swans.  Yes, three of them are seasoned AFL players but that's still a significant part of the team who aren't all that familiar with their teammates and how they play.

I am expecting to see incremental improvements as the newbies gel with the blokes who have been on the list for a season or more.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball
 

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #58 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Dylan Buckley was the same.  Give them time.  He had a turn of pace, and a bit of aggro, and was a bit of a turnover merchant too but he might have had a much longer and finer career had his body help up better (he had that ankle injury that saw him limping off the ground too often).

Lucas threw up in his second game against Hawthorn so he is willing to push himself and he has at worst performed about as well as Chesser has to date in the small sample size of both.

Ultimately, I think we are doing something clever, and trying not to play too many youngsters all at once, which means the opportunities are harder to come by, and something that other clubs have done a lot better than us through the rebuilding years.  You cant afford to play too many sub 50 gamers together, as they are not conditioned, and then lose their heads, which might explain some of these fadeouts we have been having.


Agree, it's difficult for the coach having to win games to save his job and also provide development opportunities to players who are probably borderline only.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #59 –
Campo SNR is always unhappy
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?