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Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #90 –
Quote from: Lods – on
There's a fair bit of deja vu associated with the Round 3 Post match thread and the same round from last year.
A lot of the same problems.

https://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=7160.0

But just be a little careful with judging some of the new players at the moment.
The chief whipping boys in that thread were Haynes and Evans. ;)  :D
Evans hasnt hit the form he had late last season and Haynes is at the backend of his career and looks like its going to be a tough year with injury for him. I think we are worse than last season, at rock bottom and lucky to have one win on the board.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #91 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: Lods – on
There's a fair bit of deja vu associated with the Round 3 Post match thread and the same round from last year.
A lot of the same problems.

https://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=7160.0

But just be a little careful with judging some of the new players at the moment.
The chief whipping boys in that thread were Haynes and Evans. ;)  :D
Evans hasnt hit the form he had late last season and Haynes is at the backend of his career and looks like its going to be a tough year with injury for him. I think we are worse than last season, at rock bottom and lucky to have one win on the board.


Evans has only played one game
Haynes hasn't played any.
But that's not the point...the point is that at the same stage last year these two were basically written off as a waste of space, but by the end of the season they would have just about been in everyones best 23.

So criticism of the new additions to the side is arguably a bit premature.
Let see how they settle.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #92 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on

Evans hasnt hit the form he had late last season and Haynes is at the backend of his career and looks like its going to be a tough year with injury for him. I think we are worse than last season, at rock bottom and lucky to have one win on the board.


Evans has only played one game
Haynes hasn't played any.
But that's not the point...the point is that at the same stage last year these two were basically written off as a waste of space, but by the end of the season they would have just about been in everyones best 23.

So criticism of the new additions to the side is arguably a bit premature.
Let see how they settle.
The argument I heard over summer was the list is much better and better placed and that the new game plan would make us better. Im not sure it's premature, a few of us predicted what would happen.
There seem to be this idea that every other team would go backwards and that our brilliant new recruits would change our fortune. Hope you didn't put any money on the outcome.. ;)

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #93 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: Lods – on


Evans has only played one game
Haynes hasn't played any.
But that's not the point...the point is that at the same stage last year these two were basically written off as a waste of space, but by the end of the season they would have just about been in everyones best 23.

So criticism of the new additions to the side is arguably a bit premature.
Let see how they settle.
The argument I heard over summer was the list is much better and better placed and that the new game plan would make us better. Im not sure it's premature, a few of us predicted what would happen.
There seem to be this idea that every other team would go backwards and that our brilliant new recruits would change our fortune. Hope you didn't put any money the on the outcome.. ;)

I'd call judgement after three rounds in... premature 'expectations'. ;)  :D
Both for the team and individuals.
We have a long way to go.
We started last year 0-4
We're already ahead of that.
There's a bit to play out on, and maybe off the field.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #94 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on

The argument I heard over summer was the list is much better and better placed and that the new game plan would make us better. Im not sure it's premature, a few of us predicted what would happen.
There seem to be this idea that every other team would go backwards and that our brilliant new recruits would change our fortune. Hope you didn't put any money the on the outcome.. ;)

I'd call judgement after three rounds in... premature 'expectations'. ;)  :D
Both for the team and individuals.
We have a long way to go.
We started last year 0-4
We're already ahead of that.
There's a bit to play out on, and maybe off the field.

I was going to say the same thing as EB.

I think EBs point is that the judgement before a ball was kicked in anger was premature expectations.

After 3 games last year our % was 83.3%
After 3 games this year our % is 72.9%......and we were luckily enough to hold on and win one of them.

Based on form.....i'm taking last year.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #95 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on

The argument I heard over summer was the list is much better and better placed and that the new game plan would make us better. Im not sure it's premature, a few of us predicted what would happen.
There seem to be this idea that every other team would go backwards and that our brilliant new recruits would change our fortune. Hope you didn't put any money the on the outcome.. ;)

I'd call judgement after three rounds in... premature 'expectations'. ;)  :D
Both for the team and individuals.
We have a long way to go.
We started last year 0-4
We're already ahead of that.
There's a bit to play out on, and maybe off the field.

We started bad last season but I think we look worse this season. To me we are at rock bottom and back to the dark old days..

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #96 –
Was at the game. Tw things had me smiling maybe three.
1) The teams first qrt.
2) I had sitting behind me Talor Byrne Uncle and Aunt. Jumping for joy when he marked and kicked his goal.
3) I thought as others have mentioned, that Louie's game was the best for the club. He gave the Van waht every his name is a bath.

As for the rest of the day rinse and repeat.

I am not sure that MV told Pitto to win the ball in the centre an then hand it back to Melb. TWICE
I am not sure that MV told the backline, when taking saving marks, please kick it back to a Melb player or find Gawn to kick it to. PLENTLY TIMES.

I am not sure if MV stays or goes but is there not like 7 other coaches sitting in a box watching the game?
What are the seeing?
What are they reporting (if anything) back to MV.
I have come to accept that this season is gone (yes even after 3 games).

The only good thing coming out of this year will be not selling the farm for CW

I would say bring on next week but i have been scarred to the point of being numb and not caring.

Rant over

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #97 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: Lods – on


I'd call judgement after three rounds in... premature 'expectations'. ;)  :D
Both for the team and individuals.
We have a long way to go.
We started last year 0-4
We're already ahead of that.
There's a bit to play out on, and maybe off the field.

We started bad last season but I think we look worse this season. To me we are at rock bottom and back to the dark old days..

From rock bottom the only way is up.
Seasons have a funny way of producing the unexpected.
I'll admit you have to be pretty optimistic to see something positive about the upcoming games.
We just haven't got the formula right yet.
And it may stay pear shaped for the whole year.
But I wouldn't be surprised to see peaks and troughs.

We have to break this cycle of giving away big leads.
It may be as simple as one or two games to get that monkey off the back.
It's possible it will come when we least expect it.

What happens with the coaching position may also have an impact.
If things continue to go poorly as MBB points out in the upcoming game thread Voss will not be there after the mid year bye.
A change in coach may deliver a game style that allows the players a bit more freedom from current roles and restrictions.
It may be just a sugar hit, but most supporters would probably take that at the moment, rather than racing for the car park.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #98 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: Lods – on


I'd call judgement after three rounds in... premature 'expectations'. ;)  :D
Both for the team and individuals.
We have a long way to go.
We started last year 0-4
We're already ahead of that.
There's a bit to play out on, and maybe off the field.

We started bad last season but I think we look worse this season. To me we are at rock bottom and back to the dark old days..
I think last season was worse, I think we have shown enough to suggest we can get ourselves into a position to win. Figure out how to arrest the 2nd half mind games and we'll be fine.
Round 3 and lots of changes, might take a bit of time for the aspect to click also.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #99 –
Most of the time its not one persons fault its a collective. The collective is at the bottom of the barrell and something needs to change. Whether rightly or wrongly, something needs to change. And the only change that can really occur during a season to change what is happening immediately, is get a new coach in.

I am team Voss - i wish this wasnt so. But personally I dont see where any other change comes from and to my eye the young ones are killing themselves for us and thats not fair.

Personally I dont want to see the highly skilled media fronting Welters or Walsh saying it is on us, we need to do better.
Please spare us, go and train and be the leader during the game.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #100 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on

We started bad last season but I think we look worse this season. To me we are at rock bottom and back to the dark old days..
I think last season was worse, to I think we have shown enough to suggest we can get ourselves into a position to win. Figure out how to arrest the 2nd half mind games and we'll be fine.
Round 3 and lots of changes, might take a bit of time for the aspect to click also.
Admire your optimism and had it too until about 4.15pm yesterday afternoon. None of our guys want you be THE GUYS; Cripps is naturally as a born competitor but we have slowly broken him and he isnt as effective or tries to do too much and gets caught.

Personally see Cripps over it; and if we were rebuilding then we could be excited about youth but we seem to be in no-mans land slowly dropping down the ladder.
 

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #101 –
Just saw some vision of some maniac/s screaming at the players after the game! I hope they are identified and relieved of their memberships. Utterly disgusting.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #102 –
Quote from: MickyO – on
Just saw some vision of some maniac/s screaming at the players after the game! I hope they are identified and relieved of their memberships. Utterly disgusting.
Its pretty bad. I had joined a couple of Facebook pages over the years. I have farked them all off, cess pit of stupidy and nuffies. One of those nuffies called SEN and suggested Hird should coach us!
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #103 –
Coaches' votes :

10 Kysaiah Pickett (MELB)
6 Jake Lever (MELB)
6 Max Gawn (MELB)
4 Jack Steele (MELB)
2 Bayley Fritsch (MELB)
1 Tom Sparrow (MELB)
1 Elijah Hollands (CARL)

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #104 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: Lods – on


I'd call judgement after three rounds in... premature 'expectations'. ;)  :D
Both for the team and individuals.
We have a long way to go.
We started last year 0-4
We're already ahead of that.
There's a bit to play out on, and maybe off the field.

I was going to say the same thing as EB.

I think EBs point is that the judgement before a ball was kicked in anger was premature expectations.

After 3 games last year our % was 83.3%
After 3 games this year our % is 72.9%......and we were luckily enough to hold on and win one of them.

Based on form.....i'm taking last year.

I know its hard to compare, but youre putting words in people's mouths again. Your contention was we'd go backwards where most were saying we wont miss Charlie.  Thing is, are we missing Charlie?  How about tdk?  Or jsos?

Thing is this is what the discussion was.

Not whether or not we'd magically improve.  How far back do we slide?  Id wager with Charlie in, we might have done a bit better, but tdk was going anyway, and jsos is a hard one to quantify as he only averaged 12 games a season.  What if he had missed these ones? 

The Melbourne loss might not be as bad as we think, theyve at least got the bones of a premiership side there and some bonafide stars. We have a vanilla team, and we play vanilla footy.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson