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Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #105 –
Quote from: rocky – on
Just watched the whole game, which I don't usually do when we lose, but I had to make sure about whether Hollands did get a kick in and I think the only time it may have happened was in the 3rd around the HBF boundary line where there was a scramble and the ball ended up going over the line. He may have got a feather kick in there but definitely not 100% on that. Also while he was responsible for the 1st 666 warning he was on the bench when the 2nd infringement (which ultimately resulted in a goal) occurred.
Still he did look a bit "weird" during general play. He was waving around his arms nearly all game? Very strange.
Thought for most of the game we once again had a crack but the same old problems surfaced. Ball use, decision making, accuracy in front of goal, broken tackles and bad coaching.

No Harry this week, which is a shame as he had a good game (apart from the goal kicking) I thought so can see us getting a spanking against Freo.
Last like year, and most other weeks, we'll be 4 goals up at some stage then lose by 3. We can be a good side for periods, even a very good side,  just not for a whole game and we lose.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #106 –
Start of the 3rd.   3 very shots at goal that should be converted.   Cerra, Kemp and McKay.    Think Kemp was 30 out slight angle.

Kick those and we are 30 odd points up.   Ball goes down the other end and Elliott goals.

Walsh did similar in the Melbourne game.   Missed a sitter and Langdon goals.

We haven't been able for over 2-3 years been able to stop of slow the momentum and concede 3-5 goals quickly.   

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #107 –
Quote from: Shakin77 – on
Start of the 3rd.   3 very shots at goal that should be converted.   Cerra, Kemp and McKay.    Think Kemp was 30 out slight angle.

Kick those and we are 30 odd points up.   Ball goes down the other end and Elliott goals.

Walsh did similar in the Melbourne game.   Missed a sitter and Langdon goals.

We haven't been able for over 2-3 years been able to stop of slow the momentum and concede 3-5 goals quickly.   
Yeah but you know, its a coaching problem that our guys cant hit the side of a barn from regulation scores.  Even at the death Byrne's miss to make it a draw.  Pulled his kick skinny.  The pressure he would have been under, but you just know other teams nail this stuff, whilst I dont know what we train, but hitting targets is not one of them.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #108 –
I suspect the players' head space is such that they now expect things to go pear shaped. Hopefully Vossy has put The Myth Of Sisyphus on the reading list. 
 

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #109 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
We probably lost the game by depending of Lewis Young as a 2nd ruck. I thought he wasn't bad, for the most part, but he was slaughtered in the ruck. It was the difference between winning and losing.

I know Pitto works like a Trojan every week, but other rucks can lift in the last quarter and change the game. Pitto can't. When Steene got on top for those first 8 minutes, Collingwood got the ball out of middle quickly and we couldn't stop them.

I thought Lewis Young's efforts were better than we have had from any other back-up ruckman this season and I thought he was competitive in most of his ruck contests - certainly more so than when Steene jumped all over Pitto at the start of the last term - after he had had a break.  I doubt that Pitto can claim to have been fatigued at that stage because Young seemed to give him a reasonable amount of time on the bench during the match - so much so that the commentators (probably David King) repeatedly complained about the amount of time he spent on the bench.

The failure in those critical 8 minutes has to rest with the coaching staff for failing (yet again) to do anything to combat the momentum.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #110 –
I wonder how much David King was being paid to pump up McKay's game for how competitive he was last night.  He certainly made an effort to compete in the air but isn't that what he is being paid to do - I reckon he would be more deserving of praise if he managed to hold some contested marks in the forward line and/or to kick goals when he was awarded a mark or a free kick.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #111 –
Young did better than Pittonet in the last term.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #113 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Team mates didn't want a bar of him after the match.
If he has the problems they are saying he has, and if his team mates did in fact bail out on him, thats pretty ordinary in my book.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #114 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Young did better than Pittonet in the last term.
Once again, Young wasnt in our worst.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #115 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Quote from: Bluesers – on

I'm not aware of any hysterical assumptions,  but we can only make  assumptions based on what we saw and heard from that game and the vision of his behaviour is definitely of a person acting very abnormally.    Serious questions need to be asked of CFC coaches as to why they allowed him to be onfield for 90 minutes in that state...   Surely they, and/or some of the senior players must've noticed his unusual behaviour way before 3/4 time.    He is damaged goods and should never have been re-signed.    Once again MV must take responsibilty for this fiasco - he should fall on his sword before he is pushed...

Voss is ultimately responsible, but I think its not fair to lay this at his feet.  Elijah is an adult, responsible for himself.  Where are the leaders in the team making sure this gets the appropriate attention?  Where are the line coaches under Voss telling him that Elijah is not right to play?

Why is the senior coach the one who is in the gun here for the failings of every level?

Our club is a disgrace off field.  Its all good, Brian Cook fixed us...  The club has systemic issues that sit outside of the coach regarding standards, and behaviour, and about the only person exhibiting the right stuff is the guy in the coaches box.
Agree with this. And always think back to the AFL life member who told me at the end of last season for no reason that ‘Cookie’ was just in it for a lucrative final retirement pay day.  Had no real interest in it and seemingly didnt really change much?

Absolute disgrace the club put the kid out there for starters but left him out there? Ffs.
 

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #116 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Team mates didn't want a bar of him after the match.
If he has the problems they are saying he has, and if his team mates did in fact bail out on him, thats pretty ordinary in my book.
Cant imagine every player is a complete arsehole so there is surely a hell of a lot more here than we see.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #117 –
Another thing that really gives me the craps is some of our tackling! We cuddle them repeatedly but allow them to get handballs out. There was one passage where it was in tight and we tackled maybe 3,4 times in a row and each time Pies were able to handball in close and then get it out. Like who is coaching them like this? 

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #118 –
Quote from: Shakin77 – on
Start of the 3rd.   3 very shots at goal that should be converted.   Cerra, Kemp and McKay.    Think Kemp was 30 out slight angle.

Kick those and we are 30 odd points up.   Ball goes down the other end and Elliott goals.

Walsh did similar in the Melbourne game.   Missed a sitter and Langdon goals.

We haven't been able for over 2-3 years been able to stop of slow the momentum and concede 3-5 goals quickly.   
That happens so often, and often in the 3rd qtr that we attack, kick point after point, then the other goes forward once, kicks a goal and we seems to drop our heads, allowing a flow of goals.