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Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #15
Honestly, i don't know if i'd want Harry back in this week.
Give him an extra week just for $hits and giggles.
Kemp+McGovern worked well together - 9 goals between them is about as good as you could hope for.
I pretty sure H will be back if fit, but it tells us something about our ball use and decision making. When we make H the default we are too predictable, we almost need to be without him for a few weeks to break the habit. Then bring him back as a genuine option alongside the others.

Big Harry can't kick goals anyhow and can't hold a one-grab mark up forward so maybe he should play mainly in the ruck - except at centre ball-ups because he would be bound to get hurt.  At least it would be something different.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #16
Big Harry can't kick goals anyhow and can't hold a one-grab mark up forward so maybe he should play mainly in the ruck - except at centre ball-ups because he would be bound to get hurt.  At least it would be something different.
Form versus ability is a tough thing to debate, when H was snapping around the corner goals from outside 50m a couple of years back he was the bees knees, now he's struggling.

We shouldn't forget what a confident and in form player is capable of, he's bigger and stronger now, he has lost no pace, and is hardly even perhaps never out marked. We need him with his head on straight and chock full of confidence, any club would.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #17
Pitto's a chance apparently, hope he gets up, he'll be frothing at the mouth to take on TDK.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #18
We need him. 12-0 clearances against us to start the match without him should be the only lesson we need to learn on that front.
Hes more valuable than you think.

....and no its not just our mids making him look good either.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #19
Nothing surer that NWM will have a ball tearer and TDK will monster our ruckman. The former yet another example of what we dont have on our list, speed, poise, ball use.

Not surprising that 2 of the highest paid players in the game may cause us grief.

You think of that yourself did you Shawny? Gold star for you.

Also happens to be 2 players we have not a single matchup for on our list. But it'll be Vossys fault he doesn't have a unicorn ruck and an elite stoppage midfielder with pace to burn to play on these 2.

Honestly, i don't know if i'd want Harry back in this week.
Give him an extra week just for $hits and giggles.
Kemp+McGovern worked well together - 9 goals between them is about as good as you could hope for.

My changes for this week....
Wilson <-> Florent.....simply need better disposal
F. Young <-> Byrne.....one needs a rest, one needs a gig.
HOK <-> L.Young....Young is not the future, let HOK run around with TDK all day and learn something.
Evans <-> Saad.....Frankie wasn't bad, but i'd like to inject a bit more run and chaos. Potential NWM matchup.
O. Hollands <-> Cottrell.....one is fitter than the other.
Cerra <-> Hewett....i think Cerra was cramping late (or a soft tissue injury) Hewett runs out the games better and has done his time.

Overall, that should give us more run and better disposal, despite being 'like for like' in a lot of ways.

If we are a bit cleaner going inside 50 and in front of goal, then that loss (and this one?) could be turned into a win pretty easily.

Overall, i expect about 1 of them to actually go ahead.....but thats what i'd do.

But i thought TDK was average and on crazy money - now he all of sudden he is a star and not able to be beaten and shouldn't be mentioned? What's your excuse why we allow Sinclair to play on his own every time we play them?

We have been crushed in every game except R1 as our Coaching department has NFI how to stop a run on how to clamp a player, no defensive modes - NADDA.

And this is not just this year - How many times has the same footballers done little then they play like superman against us.  Check the list below of matchwinners that turned it on and killed in so far this year.

OR: Gulden
R3: Pickett
R4: LDU
R5: N Daicos
R6: Bolton

Agree there is a pattern or you can find another excuse. Look at their games lending into the game against us - they all hit top form against us... Why? Could it just possibly be that our coaching debt is below par on planning and tactics for opposition matchwinners and we have no systems to slow the play hence why the minute a player or team get a run on everyman and his dog knows it curtains.

Nah its cause we lost Jack, Charlie and TDK in the offseason and only got in old duds.

Of course it is.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #20
Hewett needs to come back into the team this week and I'd be dropping Williams after his woeful lack of effort vs Freo.
George might be slow but I prefer a player who at least contests properly...

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #21
And his handballs & kicks usually hit the target!

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #22
Williams needs a rocket, slipping back to bad habits.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #23
And he just happens to be our current B and F winner so the bloke can play.

Crazy to think he is wasted in the reserves while we are one win from 7 rounds.

I get we need to be faster but if that was the criteria why is Saad still in the 2nds, why didnt the Campo brothers get a game etc

Makes little sense as George is more than capable of playing as a high half forward. Not sure Cerra is any quicker then him either 

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #24


Not surprising that 2 of the highest paid players in the game may cause us grief.

You think of that yourself did you Shawny? Gold star for you.

Also happens to be 2 players we have not a single matchup for on our list. But it'll be Vossys fault he doesn't have a unicorn ruck and an elite stoppage midfielder with pace to burn to play on these 2.

Honestly, i don't know if i'd want Harry back in this week.
Give him an extra week just for $hits and giggles.
Kemp+McGovern worked well together - 9 goals between them is about as good as you could hope for.

My changes for this week....
Wilson <-> Florent.....simply need better disposal
F. Young <-> Byrne.....one needs a rest, one needs a gig.
HOK <-> L.Young....Young is not the future, let HOK run around with TDK all day and learn something.
Evans <-> Saad.....Frankie wasn't bad, but i'd like to inject a bit more run and chaos. Potential NWM matchup.
O. Hollands <-> Cottrell.....one is fitter than the other.
Cerra <-> Hewett....i think Cerra was cramping late (or a soft tissue injury) Hewett runs out the games better and has done his time.

Overall, that should give us more run and better disposal, despite being 'like for like' in a lot of ways.

If we are a bit cleaner going inside 50 and in front of goal, then that loss (and this one?) could be turned into a win pretty easily.

Overall, i expect about 1 of them to actually go ahead.....but thats what i'd do.

But i thought TDK was average and on crazy money - now he all of sudden he is a star and not able to be beaten and shouldn't be mentioned? What's your excuse why we allow Sinclair to play on his own every time we play them?

We have been crushed in every game except R1 as our Coaching department has NFI how to stop a run on how to clamp a player, no defensive modes - NADDA.

And this is not just this year - How many times has the same footballers done little then they play like superman against us.  Check the list below of matchwinners that turned it on and killed in so far this year.

OR: Gulden - #23
R3: Pickett - #27
R4: LDU - #42
R5: N Daicos - #2
R6: Bolton - #43

Agree there is a pattern or you can find another excuse. Look at their games lending into the game against us - they all hit top form against us... Why? Could it just possibly be that our coaching debt is below par on planning and tactics for opposition matchwinners and we have no systems to slow the play hence why the minute a player or team get a run on everyman and his dog knows it curtains.

Nah its cause we lost Jack, Charlie and TDK in the offseason and only got in old duds.

Of course it is.

You get bored and make up the movie in your head?

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But i thought TDK was average and on crazy money - now he all of sudden he is a star and not able to be beaten and shouldn't be mentioned?
Huh?
TDK is overrated and on crazy money, doesn't mean he can't teach our 8th gamer a few things....or are you suggest HOK is the equal of TDK???

Again, we got beaten by someone....some of the best players in the game.
Out of curiosity, i had a quick look for top 50 players for 2026 prediction, clicked on the first link that popped up.
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/47893628/afl-top-50-best-afl-players-season-2026-daicos-bontempelli-heeney-neale-darcy
All of the players you mentioned were in the top 50, including Daicos at #2.
So yes, we got beaten by good players and we struggled to stop them......just like every other team struggles to stop them, because they are elite. Perhaps we don't have the players to stop them. Could that be a list management issue??

Incidently of the players that left
Curnow - #14
The blokes we got in, didn't crack the top 50.
So yeah, our list got worst.

Leigh Matthews couldn't stop Daicos with our list. Not sure why you think Voss can.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #25
Some say we have a rubbish list, some say we have a rubbish coach, some say we have both.

The fact remains we are in round 8 this week, and are currently 3rd on the ladder for minutes led in matches. 

Not bad for a bunch of talentless hacks.  Too paid the results havent gone the way we would have liked.  Perhaps with some better coaching, some more luck, or some more hutzpah, we wouldnt even need better players.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #26
Some say we have a rubbish list, some say we have a rubbish coach, some say we have both.

The fact remains we are in round 8 this week, and are currently 3rd on the ladder for minutes led in matches. 

Not bad for a bunch of talentless hacks.  Too paid the results havent gone the way we would have liked.  Perhaps with some better coaching, some more luck, or some more hutzpah, we wouldnt even need better players.

Are we still 3rd though? We didn't lead a minute of our game against freo, so i imagine we dropped a fair way.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #27
Some say we have a rubbish list, some say we have a rubbish coach, some say we have both.

The fact remains we are in round 8 this week, and are currently 3rd on the ladder for minutes led in matches. 

Not bad for a bunch of talentless hacks.  Too paid the results havent gone the way we would have liked.  Perhaps with some better coaching, some more luck, or some more hutzpah, we wouldnt even need better players.

Are we still 3rd though? We didn't lead a minute of our game against freo, so i imagine we dropped a fair way.

When I last saw it, we were 3rd behind Sydney and Freo.   Given it was a total, and not a percentage, we would still have a fair lead on the next teams.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

 

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #28
Given the results from the weekend and how the games were played, only Hawthorn, Melbourne and Brisbane would have done enough to leap frog us in one week.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #29
Some say we have a rubbish list, some say we have a rubbish coach, some say we have both.

The fact remains we are in round 8 this week, and are currently 3rd on the ladder for minutes led in matches. 

Not bad for a bunch of talentless hacks.  Too paid the results havent gone the way we would have liked.  Perhaps with some better coaching, some more luck, or some more hutzpah, we wouldnt even need better players.

By the way, 3 Leos, I don't think we have a rubbish list and I don't think we have a rubbish coach. It's lonesome out here  ;D

Our list does need midfield speed, and our coach does need to continue his changed approach to game plan.

Now the MC... that may well be rubbish!
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17