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Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #60
I am still struggling to get my head around how this team can play 7-8 weeks of utter sh1te and look like a basketcase so badly.

Next thing we see is against the reigning premiers, once again, play like a totally incompetent busted butthole in the first half and then magically transform into near worldbeaters in the second half and nearly pinch it from them.

What did they drink, smoke or inject in the rooms at halftime ??

What pixie dust did they have sprinkled on them ??

What did Voss do or say that completely changed their mindset and application so dramatically ??

The other big question now has to be, was this a one off 'flash in the pan' or will the raised standards continue for the remainder of the season ??


Not wanting to be a wet blanket but... Or to what degree did Brisvegas ease up, even just a little?
Wondered this too.

Was it more they had it won and just held us at arms length to win it or did we legitimately turn it around against the top play of the Lions?

Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #61
You could probably turn that around and ask the same question of us in multiple games.
How often do we release the pressure and ease up in games, allowing the opposition to get a momentum change we find difficult to stop.
How often do we have that miss or error that suddenly turns a game.
We lack that 'kill' instinct where just one or two more goals would have snuffed out any challenge.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #62
I haven't done a deep dive but ive been paying attention to the stats.  We are attempting to transition into a team that kicks more than it handballs and I think we went into handball mode after half time.

Think back to the 1970 grand final.  When thr game had "gone" we just threw caution to the wind and went for it.  We havent had to try fight back from behind much this season but we've been able to fo it.  Its much easier to play daring football when you're down.

A bit of play late where hollands had 3 disposals in a chain off half back and then delivered to hayward who converted was what times it off to me.

H1 - 47.9% of disposals were handballs
H2 - 46.6% of disposals were handballs.


righto, that means that perception isnt accurate and i got that wrong.

Maybe its just the last bit then where its easier to take the game on when youre behind.

It happens to liverpool.  They go down a goal or two and then late in games they restructure so you have a couple of proper defenders and everyone else is instructed to overload forward.  Usually you see a multitude of chances when chasing a result whereas you tend to go into lead preservation mode and defend more than attack when you are ahead.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #63
The perception may have been how the handballs were used.

In the first half it may have been under pressure to get the ball out of contested situations.
I also recall pieces of play in the second half where we used handball as an attacking weapon out of defence, that set up scoring opportunities, where the same player handled the ball more than once, as they ran it out.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #64
Nice to see people show a bit of their true ability and get a smidge if confidence back
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #65
I thought in the second half we were more willing to ride the initial tackle, which allowed us to dispose with better efficiency and choosing better options.

The only problem I see long term is the inconsistency of umpiring, the determination on how long you can ride the tackle before disposal is arbitrary.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #66
You could probably turn that around and ask the same question of us in multiple games.
How often do we release the pressure and ease up in games, allowing the opposition to get a momentum change we find difficult to stop.
How often do we have that miss or error that suddenly turns a game.
We lack that 'kill' instinct where just one or two more goals would have snuffed out any challenge.

Or... we just about always give a half of terrific footy but generally follow it with a shocker. This time we reversed the halves  ;)  ;D
The most reliable thing, for whatever reasons(s), about us is inconsistency. If our team had a psychiatric identity it'd be Multiple Personality Disorder :(
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #67
You could probably turn that around and ask the same question of us in multiple games.
How often do we release the pressure and ease up in games, allowing the opposition to get a momentum change we find difficult to stop.
How often do we have that miss or error that suddenly turns a game.
We lack that 'kill' instinct where just one or two more goals would have snuffed out any challenge.

Or... we just about always give a half of terrific footy but generally follow it with a shocker. This time we reversed the halves  ;)  ;D
The most reliable thing, for whatever reasons(s), about us is inconsistency. If our team had a psychiatric identity it'd be Multiple Personality Disorder :(

Bipolar.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #68
Confidence and competence in a game plan makes a difference measured in fractions of a second, a reduction barely noticeable except in the outcome, that reduction in hesitation is all it takes to get away an effective disposal.

Oddly, not panicking, being a little calmer, buys you a few moments of clarity. See Pendles as a reference.

A great example of the opposite was Newman touching that kick that was heading out of bounds, if he'd been a little bit patient, if he'd been a fraction clearer in his mind, he would have left it to cross the line and delivered him a lasso.

Cripps getting a fast break and trying ineffectively and unsuccessfully to get away a pressured disposal, he can just ride the bump or tackle, spin 180 if he has to, and offload to any of his passing team-mates would be 1000x better than a bodged rushed kick under pressure. Late in the game he reverted to the basics, and it made him appear much much better, he was able to create some time and space because he knew what to do.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #69
I went to a great Lloyd Spiegel concert last night and only saw the game from about half way through the third quarter. 

I saw a dominant performance from the Bluebaggers but what went wrong in the first half?

Good aussie bluesman !!

Used to play him a little bit on one of my radio shows.

Outstanding live performance LL!

Apart from his playing and vocals, he’s a real raconteur with a wicked sense of humour.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

 

Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #70


Good aussie bluesman !!

Used to play him a little bit on one of my radio shows.

Outstanding live performance LL!

Apart from his playing and vocals, he’s a real raconteur with a wicked sense of humour.

I've spent some time with him and can easily say that he's a top bloke as well.