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Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #15 –
Quote from: LordLucifer – on
One of the worst ever games to watch, it was a horrible spectacle on so many fronts. However, knew we were home when Ison kicked his goal.

Some of the young guys didn't look completely out of their depth, Florent played his best game for us thus far and Cowan was back to his absolute mongrel best. 

Not getting carried away, as Elwood said, the Dogs were ripe for the picking and we still had some players who were passengers yet again.

The one thing that stood out for me was Jagga & Ison embracing at the end, there is a nucleus of good young guys who have a camerarderie that will be the building block for the future.


Yep ..if you look under the hood at the stats it wasn't much different to normal except the Bulldogs were worse than us and we were very average.
We controlled the clearances and had way more i50s but were 18% efficient down forward and can't kick goals from any systematic play. Dogs were the same at 23% efficiency but our weight of numbers in disposals and I50s won us the game.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #16 –
Winning ugly its called, we don't do that much nowadays.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #17 –
Quote from: RiverRat – on

No surprise that the team's best two halves of the season were built on Crippa's clearance work - especially out of the centre.
The trouble is he's 30 now, we need him to get a chop out from some mates who don't surrender at the first sign of strife.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #18 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: RiverRat – on

No surprise that the team's best two halves of the season were built on Crippa's clearance work - especially out of the centre.
The trouble is he's 30 now, we need him to get a chop out from some mates who don't surrender at the first sign of strife.
It certainly seems as though he can only dominate for short periods and then mainly only if/when Pitto is able to give him an armchair ride.

Hewitt is certainly not playing nowhere near as well as last year and appears to have lost a yard (or more) of pace that he can't spare but he has been more than serviceable when the pace has gone off the game in the second half of the last two games.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #19 –
Cripps' last quarter: 13 possessions, 5 clearances, 4 score involvements, 3 centre clearances and most of his possessions contested. Huge!
He wasn't bad earlier: he and Bont sort of nullified each other, but when the final term started, Cripps lifted and Bont didn't. Bont had 24 possessions, but he didn't hurt us with them. I guess you could say something similar about Walsh: 25 possessions, 4 clearances, but did hurt them as much as Cripps did.

Our best 4 quarter player was probably Ollie Florent. He was huge! 28 possessions, 11 marks and 4 tackles. And some of the things he did were huge.

Not far behind him was Lachie Cowan. Cowan has been ordinary this year, but this was easily his best game. He marked well, he did some magnificent defensive things. He had 1 tackle, but he did so much more defensively.

Jagga Smith was also much better this week. He had 25 possessions and the longer the game went on, the better those possessions were.

Ollie Hollands gut running was excellent. He made things happen by not giving up and running hard.

Billy Wilson was ordinary early. He turned the ball over and didn't seem to have the confidence or the commitment. But, like a number of others, he really lifted.

We've definitely found one in jack Ison. He had 15 possessions and kicked 1 goal 2, but it was more the way he went about things that impressed.

Harry Dean made one shocking error early, but was very good after that. I was really surprised to see he had only 12 possessions.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #20 –
Quote from: RiverRat – on
Hewitt is certainly not playing nowhere near as well as last year and appears to have lost a yard (or more) of pace that he can't spare but he has been more than serviceable when the pace has gone off the game in the second half of the last two games.
They are as effective as last year when the mode of play suits, but AFL 2026 is much faster making them look slower.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #21 –
So many goals from frees, to both teams
Can’t say many of them were obvious
Seems to be a blitz on “Blocked”

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #22 –
I'm not sure there was too much different to what we've seen this year.
I'd probably call it a more 'even' effort over the length of the game.
It was also more even in terms of the contribution, where some players who weren't having great nights had moments when they stood up.

The other thing seemed to be more of a team approach.
We supported and looked for options rather than just bombing away.
There seemed to be a lot of two player tackles, or corralling of the opposition, which led to them turning the ball over.

What to make of the result?

They were seriously undermanned, and lost more players during the game.
But Beveridge wanted to send a message in his presser, that the result should be seen as more a case of Carlton being better, rather than making excuses for his side.

There may have been the 'sugar hit' factor which often happens after a coach change.
But the win was probably just the tonic we needed for both players and supporters.
The players would have felt the contrast between winning and losing and it showed how important it was, on the field, and in the rooms after the game.
It may be a 'winning feeling' they want to keep repeating.

The way forward...
The VFL side were strong yesterday and a few players put forward the "don't forget about me" message.
I don't think they wanted to change too much up after the events of last week, especially following that good second half performance against Brisbane.
That may change this week....but who to leave out?

In a funny way, with the successul season that seems to be occurring in the VFL, it may be a case that the young players have a base there, where they can continue to grow together and develop a combination, and experience that winning feeling, with occasional blocks of games in the senior side. So a young player being 'dropped' for a few games will be seen as a good thing and part of the rotations rather than a demotion.

You looked at Smith and Ison together after the game and thought there's the future. Ison and Walker are besties so that's a group that will grow together...along with others-Carroll (he's growing by the week), Dean, Wilson, Byrne, Lord, Cowan, O,Farrell, O'Keefe and others.
They may not all come on
But there is a good positional mix of players in that youth group that will form the basis of our side in three or four years time.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #23 –
There will be folks scouring the Op-shops for discarded number 30 Carlton jumpers this week ;)  :D

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #24 –
I went along to Marvel last night (which I hate), our seats are behind the goals at the Latrobe St on level 2(which I also hate). At times it was hard to see the other end without looking at the big screen but some of the umpiring decisions left me (and those around me) utterly mystified. In the 3rd at our end, the were some not paid to us in the pocket that were insane. If head office think umpiring has never been better, think again kids.
In any case, I felt like at times watching us play last night was like extracting teeth without anaesthetic. Our blokes seem to know how to make the simple very difficult. Best players for me on the night were Florent, Cowan, Carroll, Walsh and Cripps later in the game.
Pittonet was terrible in the ruck against a makeshift ruck brigade and with McGovern did not take a single mark all night, not one. He even got out pointed in hit outs by Lobb.
The young fella in the 30 jumper showed a bit and will only get better, he looked a little lost early but got used to the pace of the game as the night wore on.
To the coaching staff, can we please stop living in the pockets making our shots at goal impossible, attack the farken top of the square from time to time.
A wins a win, happy for the boys to have got the 4 points in a very strange old game.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership
 

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #25 –
Yea I thought it was "find a nothing free for McNaughton" night, FMD, what drugs are the fluoro elves taking ATM?

Some real leadership from some maligned players- Walsh committing to take that mark early (and risked getting smashed), Harry imploring the kids to refocus after Ison's goal.... Can't knock the effort but gees the poor execution and disposal errors (smacks head).
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #26 –
Can I also just give Crippa some love, he was mighty in the trenches tonight. The goal he kicked from the stoppage in the fwd pocket was right in front of me. He started 5 or so meters off the contest, licked his fingers and I turned to my daughter and said "Watch Crippa here", there was never going to be any other result, he just wanted that footy and that goal more than 35 other blokes out there. Inspirational.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #27 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
Cripps' last quarter: 13 possessions, 5 clearances, 4 score involvements, 3 centre clearances and most of his possessions contested. Huge!
He wasn't bad earlier: he and Bont sort of nullified each other, but when the final term started, Cripps lifted and Bont didn't. Bont had 24 possessions, but he didn't hurt us with them. I guess you could say something similar about Walsh: 25 possessions, 4 clearances, but did hurt them as much as Cripps did.

Our best 4 quarter player was probably Ollie Florent. He was huge! 28 possessions, 11 marks and 4 tackles. And some of the things he did were huge.

Not far behind him was Lachie Cowan. Cowan has been ordinary this year, but this was easily his best game. He marked well, he did some magnificent defensive things. He had 1 tackle, but he did so much more defensively.

Jagga Smith was also much better this week. He had 25 possessions and the longer the game went on, the better those possessions were.

Ollie Hollands gut running was excellent. He made things happen by not giving up and running hard.

Billy Wilson was ordinary early. He turned the ball over and didn't seem to have the confidence or the commitment. But, like a number of others, he really lifted.

We've definitely found one in jack Ison. He had 15 possessions and kicked 1 goal 2, but it was more the way he went about things that impressed.

Harry Dean made one shocking error early, but was very good after that. I was really surprised to see he had only 12 possessions.
agree with most of this but thought matt carroll was one of our best again.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #28 –
Ison should never play in the VFL again, he's got a real presence. Even in the dance pregame in front of so many people he had his own moves which were cool. It wont be long before the opposition will be putting some serious time into him but I can't see him being to phased. His kicking wasn't those high floaters that to many of his team mates can only manage. Let him be the prototype for the new list manager.

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Reply #29 –
Quote from: RiverRat – on
Quote from: shawny – on
still trading cripps???

No surprise that the team's best two halves of the season were built on Crippa's clearance work - especially out of the centre.
Noteable that the umpires seemed to giving more time to dispose of the ball when tackled too.
Let’s go BIG !