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Re: NAB Challenge RD 2 : Carlton V Adelaide (Prior Poncing & Punting)

Reply #210 –
IMO we cannot be going with Waite and one of Casboult, Rowe, Kreuzer or Warnock as our key forward setup. Ridiculous.

Has to be a combination of taller types IMHO.

Must use the likes of Everitt, Walker, Henderson, Waite, Watson and White in combination with a big unit thrown in the mix to play deep at times.

Re: NAB Challenge RD 2 : Carlton V Adelaide (Prior Poncing & Punting)

Reply #211 –
Quote from: Goat – on
At Collingwood Mick had both but used the boundary, now he has none and we use the boundary  :-\

True, but I think that says more about Cloke and Dawes than it says about a coach.

I defy any coach to have an inform power CHF, like a Carey or Brown type, and then kick slowly around the boundary. It would end the coaches career!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: NAB Challenge RD 2 : Carlton V Adelaide (Prior Poncing & Punting)

Reply #212 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: Goat – on
At Collingwood Mick had both but used the boundary, now he has none and we use the boundary  :-\

True, but I think that says more about Cloke and Dawes than it says about a coach.

I defy any coach to have an inform power CHF, like a Carey or Brown type, and then kick slowly around the boundary. It would end the coaches career!
No team has Carey/Brown combo (you could say maybe Swans this year, depending how Franklin/Tippett are played).  You under estimate Cloke because of the Jumper he wears, I doubt Mick wouldn't take him in a heart beat or wink of an eye ;) .  In 2010, Dawes/Cloke were the competition inform FF & CHF, didn't change Mick's plan.

I actually agree that if you had such a combo I'd go down the middle too, but it's not going to happen under Mick's watch. 

wrt the bold, maybe it did  :))
Excuses year 1, blame year 2, contract extention year 3........

Re: NAB Challenge RD 2 : Carlton V Adelaide (Prior Poncing & Punting)

Reply #213 –
Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on
Quote from: kruddler – on
Heath Scotland has me worried. I'm hoping he was just running around for craps and giggles rather than taking it seriously, because on what i saw, he is not going to be in our best 22. Sloppy.

Meh an old timer bound to be a little Rusty. looked fit as a fiddle to me though. Par for the course for the best trainer at the club.

He looks fit, but it looked like he was a step slower than he should've been. Part decision making/being rusty, part not giving a rats, part can't quite do what he used to be able to do.

As i said, hopefully its the middle part, rather than the last past. The first part is understandable too.

Re: NAB Challenge RD 2 : Carlton V Adelaide (Prior Poncing & Punting)

Reply #214 –
Well the end will have to come sooner rather than later. Let's hope whenever it does come it isn't mid season. Really hoped someone from that crop (Fev, Carrazzo, Scotland, Walker) would win a premiership with us. It would've meant the Pagan era wasn't a complete waste of time. I guess Walker is our best shot.
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!

Re: NAB Challenge RD 2 : Carlton V Adelaide (Prior Poncing & Punting)

Reply #215 –
Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on
Well the end will have to come sooner rather than later. Let's hope whenever it does come it isn't mid season. Really hoped someone from that crop (Fev, Carrazzo, Scotland, Walker) would win a premiership with us. It would've meant the Pagan era wasn't a complete waste of time. I guess Walker is our best shot.

And Simmo?
“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect.”

― Mark Twain

Re: NAB Challenge RD 2 : Carlton V Adelaide (Prior Poncing & Punting)

Reply #216 –
Quote from: Pratty – on
IMO we cannot be going with Waite and one of Casboult, Rowe, Kreuzer or Warnock as our key forward setup. Ridiculous.

Has to be a combination of taller types IMHO.

Must use the likes of Everitt, Walker, Henderson, Waite, Watson and White in combination with a big unit thrown in the mix to play deep at times.

combination of forwards will vary upon the backs we're up against - get it wrong and it'll be rebound city
 

Re: NAB Challenge RD 2 : Carlton V Adelaide (Prior Poncing & Punting)

Reply #217 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
@BP
This has been a theme on here for literally years and we don't seem to be doing anything to fix it, even under MM. Just can't understand it myself - seems sooooo elementary.  ???

traditional backs and forwards take years to develop from rookies - at least 6years
Get it wrong, and you have to buy ready made - and they cost plenty.
I'd have the biggest crack in history to get Cameron next year, especially after the money that I hear murphy is going to get paid

Re: NAB Challenge RD 2 : Carlton V Adelaide (Prior Poncing & Punting)

Reply #218 –
Quote from: thrunthrublu – on
Quote from: cookie2 – on
@BP
This has been a theme on here for literally years and we don't seem to be doing anything to fix it, even under MM. Just can't understand it myself - seems sooooo elementary.  ???

traditional backs and forwards take years to develop from rookies - at least 6years
Get it wrong, and you have to buy ready made - and they cost plenty.
I'd have the biggest crack in history to get Cameron next year, especially after the money that I hear murphy is going to get paid

What sort of money are you hearing for Murphy? More or less?

Re: NAB Challenge RD 2 : Carlton V Adelaide (Prior Poncing & Punting)

Reply #219 –
Quote from: thrunthrublu – on
I'd have the biggest crack in history to get Cameron next year,

Buddy money?


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especially after the money that I hear murphy is going to get paid

It will be strange to sign up Murphy on big money so quickly.

Re: NAB Challenge RD 2 : Carlton V Adelaide (Prior Poncing & Punting)

Reply #220 –
Quote from: ItsOurTime – on
Quote from: thrunthrublu – on
I'd have the biggest crack in history to get Cameron next year,

Buddy money?


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especially after the money that I hear murphy is going to get paid

It will be strange to sign up Murphy on big money so quickly.

i'd pay 750k - that for Cameron - not murphy

Re: NAB Challenge RD 2 : Carlton V Adelaide (Prior Poncing & Punting)

Reply #221 –
Quote from: Pratty – on
IMO we cannot be going with Waite and one of Casboult, Rowe, Kreuzer or Warnock as our key forward setup. Ridiculous.

Has to be a combination of taller types IMHO.

Must use the likes of Everitt, Walker, Henderson, Waite, Watson and White in combination with a big unit thrown in the mix to play deep at times.

Agree ...Waite, Henderson and Walker would be in my forward line....AW kicked 50 last time he played as a fulltime forward...wont get 50 goals out of many players on our list.
He kicks straight and provides an awkward matchup,

Casboult and Rowe have I drawn a line through, more chance of Aliens landing at Visy Park or Myley Cyrus becoming  a nun that those two making it.

Kruezer will only ever be a ruckan who has a rest down forward and kicks the odd goal or two....just doesnt take enough marks....Warnock's only other position is on the pine doing crosswords....

Re: NAB Challenge RD 2 : Carlton V Adelaide (Prior Poncing & Punting)

Reply #222 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on

Kruezer will only ever be a ruckan who has a rest down forward and kicks the odd goal or two....just doesnt take enough marks....Warnock's only other position is on the pine doing crosswords....

odd goal or two when resting forward

On such Odd occasion has this happened of late that I'm not sure resting forward provides better value than sitting on the pine filling in crosswords
“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect.”

― Mark Twain

Re: NAB Challenge RD 2 : Carlton V Adelaide (Prior Poncing & Punting)

Reply #223 –
Quote from: denimundies – on
Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on
Well the end will have to come sooner rather than later. Let's hope whenever it does come it isn't mid season. Really hoped someone from that crop (Fev, Carrazzo, Scotland, Walker) would win a premiership with us. It would've meant the Pagan era wasn't a complete waste of time. I guess Walker is our best shot.

And Simmo?

Yup him too.
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!

Re: NAB Challenge RD 2 : Carlton V Adelaide (Prior Poncing & Punting)

Reply #224 –
Quote from: Raydan – on
I don't think it was my blue glasses last night, but did we get Rogered by the umps? People have said about Kruezer taking marks, but how many time was he hit in the back of the head? How many time was Waite or Casboult held while going for the mark, push in the back by a Crows guy that lead directly to a goal, the high tackles called while a Crows player was burying himself into the armpit of our tacklers yet Murphy ducked under a tackle twice and was smacked in the face.

Not sure but on one occasion in the first half I saw Sloan lay 3 tackles in a row on players who were about to pick up the footy.