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Reply #15
Quite true, but Kennett and friends were so keen to build Colonial that  they were not going to help overcome local objections and were prepared to see us bankrupt. Also, let's not forget that Ian Collins took us away from Carlton and was rewarded with the plum job of running the stadium once we were ensconced.
True, but wasnt the Docklands deals an effort by the AFL to help us out of the financial quagmire ?
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Reply #16
Who tends to play best at the G in September??  Those who are most exposed to the G during the year.  Interstate teams MAY have an advantage in home and away matches but Freo WCE Adelaide Swans GWS don’t feel fully comfortable at the G. In time Geelong will be the same. Used to playing on their long skinny ground, they too will find it more difficult to adapt to the size of the G.
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Reply #17
The problem i have with playing the cats down there is not about playing them down there because we are now a lowly club.

The problem i have is when we were both up and running, we still had to play them at Etihad and not at the MCG. We could knock them off at the 'G, never could at Etihad.

Once we FINALLY knock them off at Etihad, they move it to a harder ground for us to try and win at.

That's not right- I was there just last year when we last beat them and was definitely at Etihad. 

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Reply #18
So categorically it should be their supporters (that are mainly in Geelong and the Western District) that should have to travel to appease opposition fans?

There is absolutely no reason at all Geelong cannot choose to play their home game at their home ground..
Oh last year we played them at Docklands in front of a massive 35,000 crowd. Geelong is going to make a LOT more money in front of 34,000 at Kardinia Park.

Our crowd numbers had us 6th overall on average. 5th of Victorian clubs and only an average of 330 more than Hawthorn.
Our average numbers per game were 39710. Despite the 5 blockbuster games with the biggest drawing crowds of Richmond, Essendon &
We are not a a big draw card anymore and if you go back to 2011 when we were averaging 50,000+ a game sure..
I can't see a Victorian game Carlton sold out in 2017.

And despite all of that Geelong is a Geelong club, not a Melbourne club and can play all their home games in Geelong if they so choose.
Once again why should it be on their supporters from their home town to have to travel up to Melbourne to suit Carlton that seems like nonsense to me.

IF we were in their boots, we would demand the right to play our home games against who we saw fit to maximise our profits.
There is absolutely zero reason why Geelong should be forced to only play interstate clubs at their home ground, none at all.

Can't you read a statistical table? 4th overall. 4th average in home and away. More than Melbourne, Geelong, Hawthorn, Adelaide....Blockbusters are blockbusters because we're in them! It takes two to tango. The difference between playing at Etihad and Geelong is that Geelong fans can choose to attend Etihad. There is plenty of room. We won't get into Geelong's ground. No choice.


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Reply #20
Can't you read a statistical table? 4th overall. 4th average in home and away. More than Melbourne, Geelong, Hawthorn, Adelaide....Blockbusters are blockbusters because we're in them! It takes two to tango. The difference between playing at Etihad and Geelong is that Geelong fans can choose to attend Etihad. There is plenty of room. We won't get into Geelong's ground. No choice.

I can read a statisical table just fine, but thanks for asking. Your head is in the sand if you think we are still a drawcard. You say the crowd numbers are irrelevant yet we drew only 35,000 last time we played Geelong. The only reason they could be irrelevant is because it is GEELONGS HOME STADIUM. That means they don't need to give a damn if it suits the opposition, That is the beauty of having a home stadium.

Geelong v Carlton will almost certainly have no walkup seating, but then try buying online or .. miss out.
Your argument seems to be based not on what is the correct decision, but what is best for you to get to go to the football. I am sorry but in the scheme of whether or not Geelong should be able to play a home game at it's preferred location, that is totally irrelevant.
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Reply #21
Geelong could have made their ground capacity larger and therefore be able to accommodate the larger Victorian clubs. A capacity of 34k does not-should not qualify them to host any team but the interstate teams.

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Reply #22
Why do they need to, each seat costs a lot extra to the expansion.

It is after all a home ground and it is their city.
Why do they need to make it to cater for opposition fans?
For every opposition fan who misses out there are Geelong fans who miss games at Etihad because they don't want to be arriving home at midnight from the football.

They have every right and they make far more money out of their 34,000 seat stadium than they would out of hosting the game at Etihad also.

There is simply no logic other than 'it is unfair that opposition supporters might not get a seat'.
Here is the thing.. Only 35,000 bothered to turn up to Etihad.

On a world scale, 34,000 is a very good sized stadium for a professional sports team and there is no way they should be restricted to only playing a couple of interstate teams a year there.
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Reply #23
Why do they need to, each seat costs a lot extra to the expansion.

It is after all a home ground and it is their city.
Why do they need to make it to cater for opposition fans?
For every opposition fan who misses out there are Geelong fans who miss games at Etihad because they don't want to be arriving home at midnight from the football.

They have every right and they make far more money out of their 34,000 seat stadium than they would out of hosting the game at Etihad also.

There is simply no logic other than 'it is unfair that opposition supporters might not get a seat'.
Here is the thing.. Only 35,000 bothered to turn up to Etihad.

On a world scale, 34,000 is a very good sized stadium for a professional sports team and there is no way they should be restricted to only playing a couple of interstate teams a year there.

Let's play Collingwood, Essendon etc...there then. There's a reason those clubs don't play there, same reason we weren't  playing those clubs at Princes Park in the end. Supporters have to be able to have the chance ti see their club. Cats already get 7 home games a year.

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Reply #24
Why do they need to, each seat costs a lot extra to the expansion.

It is after all a home ground and it is their city.
Why do they need to make it to cater for opposition fans?
For every opposition fan who misses out there are Geelong fans who miss games at Etihad because they don't want to be arriving home at midnight from the football.

They have every right and they make far more money out of their 34,000 seat stadium than they would out of hosting the game at Etihad also.

There is simply no logic other than 'it is unfair that opposition supporters might not get a seat'.
Here is the thing.. Only 35,000 bothered to turn up to Etihad.

On a world scale, 34,000 is a very good sized stadium for a professional sports team and there is no way they should be restricted to only playing a couple of interstate teams a year there.

I agree.

We regularly used to play the cats at pp too.

Games between us and them at the G weren't regular.
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Reply #25
Let's play Collingwood, Essendon etc...there then. There's a reason those clubs don't play there, same reason we weren't  playing those clubs at Princes Park in the end. Supporters have to be able to have the chance ti see their club. Cats already get 7 home games a year.

And they have 11 games and can choose their home grown in the same way the Richmond chooses the G and Saints chooses Etihad.
The same option Hawthorn & Fitzroy had to play their games at PP. They are THEIR home games. You forget they played Richmond their this year or ignore the fact. Why? Because Richmond had been crap for quite a while so it made sense and they will make a lot more money.

Geelong doesn't have to provide a stadium to cater to every fan, what absolute nonsense.
If Carlton wanted to rebuild their stadium, they would have every right to play there.

Should Hawthorn and Kangaroos have no right to play us in Tasmania?

It is THEIR home game and they are entitled to play it at a location that gives them the best return, whether they be financial or parochial or home ground support or both.
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Reply #26
M8in1. You are obviously not going to change your mind, nor will I change mine.
The AFL should not be indulging Geelong by sending well-supported Melbourne based clubs to play there as there are not enough seats to accommodate visitors. End of story. 8)

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Reply #27
Memo to Carlton: one of the best ways to discourage Vic-based members & ensure no growth in your membership base is to play a home game interstate.

Friggin' boneheads running our Club....
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Reply #28
Memo to Carlton: one of the best ways to discourage Vic-based members & ensure no growth in your membership base is to play a home game interstate.

Friggin' boneheads running our Club....

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