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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by Gointocarlton -
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seeing jagga in tears after the siren on saturday with the boys tells me go all out for wins, worry about the draft capital later.  We'll get walker, one more player wont help or hurt us significantly but being crap will.
He was, wasn't he. Thought my eyes were playing tricks on me. God love him. Wonder if that will be highlighted in the post match meetings.
You cant teach passion and competitiveness. Hopefully blokes like Jagga and Dean can provide uplift in this area and drag a few along for the ride.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by rocky -
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seeing jagga in tears after the siren on saturday with the boys tells me go all out for wins, worry about the draft capital later.  We'll get walker, one more player wont help or hurt us significantly but being crap will.
He was, wasn't he. Thought my eyes were playing tricks on me. God love him. Wonder if that will be highlighted in the post match meetings.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by Lods -
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I don't think anyone can predict our number of wins from here.
A lot depends on how we approach the games.
Do we want to go all out to try and win as many as possible, which in some respects would be counterproductive.
or
Do we want to spend the rest of the year evaluating the list, trying players in different positions and getting games into youngsters.
It may be a combination of both.
seeing jagga in tears after the siren on saturday with the boys tells me go all out for wins, worry about the draft capital later.  We'll get walker, one more player wont help or hurt us significantly but being crap will.

What I'm saying is predicting how many wins we will have from this point on is a futile task and anyone who does that is setting themselves up for failure....so why would you do it.
I have no idea how many we'll win from here.
Neither does anyone else.

It's not just about Walker.
And even if maximising the draft options was the aim....
We have quite a number of players that are out of contract this year.
We're re-setting with a new coach and recruiting team.
Winning should be the aim, but in doing so we should also be looking at evaluating that list and getting some games into the kids.
That will mean your results are often erratic.

Add in the sugar hit factor...if there is any.
How the team settles after the immediate effects of Voss's departure fades, is another unknown.
Predicting wins from this point on is an exercise in futility.

But probably the more futile exercise is dwelling too long on Voss's departure.
Understandably it's still fairly raw, there is anger in some quarters, and folks want to vent...that's fair enough.
Go your hardest.
But the "what if Voss was still there 'win or lose' arguments" are actually pretty much a waste of time.
Voss is gone and he won't be there.
And once they're gone, saying what would have happened is just a guess, mostly based (with bias) on whether you thought the decision was a good one or a bad one.

At some point there has to come "acceptance".
The sooner we move on, and get there the better
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Voting AFL Rd 10 2026 Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by Professer E -
Ok after re-watching the tape
Team B - should have won by 8+.

Harry Mac 3 rucked well covered down the line and caused problems up forward
O. Hollands 3 gut ran up and back, great defensive cover some critical tackles
Florent 2 great positioning played sweeper role smart.
Cripps 2 one slashing quarter
Matty C 2 very effective with his posessions, handy marks needs more strength to stay in more contests
Ison 1 looks very polished, excellent ball use touched my arse.
Billy W 1 will be a handy player when he gets over "fear of Fing up'
Cowan 1 tough, flexible player in that he marks well for a mid sized player and a long kick but needs to use it better.
HM Haynes (got better as game went on), Hayward (needs to finish his work).

Pull up socks required...MacG (looked hesitant), Kemp, Cerra, Williams, Walsh (keeps getting caught).



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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by shawny -
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It would bloody hard to get the state worse then it is now so well worth the risk to give another oarty a go.  If you dont replace the current party as your concerned you may get worse well using that mentality you wont be getting out your bed in the motning for fear of what may happen if you leave the house.

spin this ine anyway you want they need to go.

same as our coach!!

I'm sensing there are a lot more correlations than you would immediately think between the 2.

I haven't voiced my concern either way on the matter.

Just noting biases and expectations align pretty well.

All comes down to the 'can't be any worse' line of thinking. Which, personally i think is very much the wrong way of thinking.

As an aside the 'can't be any worse' when talking about our coach/club is laughable....considering we are NOT bottom of the ladder....so clearly CAN get worse.
Government is less clear cut, but very much similar. There can ALWAYS be worse.

you are playing with words again - of course in most situations even the worse situations  can get worse but its a figure of speech that when things are so bad you need to change even if there is a small chance of it getting worse as there is a much bigger change of it improving.


yes we could slip a further 2 positions on ladder so you say ‘could be worse’ ignoring the fact there is 15 positions above us we may just get to by making a needed change.

So we also should have kept Austin too as we got jagga under him and could have selected a dud.

ridiculous reasoning.