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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 4 2026 Carlton vs Collingwood at Carlton.
Last post by crashlander -
I must admit some surprise that we want for Truslove. While he does have experience at a lot of clubs, I can't remember any of them challenging for the premiership. Is he there to develop players? Maybe.
He was the coach of Sydney last year when a certain delisted forward kicked his one and only bag of VFL goals.

Look, I might be doing the guy a disservice, but I would have thought that looking at successful programs might have been the way to go.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 4 2026 Carlton vs Collingwood at Carlton.
Last post by kruddler -

I read that the other day.

My favourite one was this...
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40. Hudson O’Keeffe
Seven disposals, 18 hitouts, one goal

‘Huddo’ was competitive in the air, he brought the ball to ground as a forward in aerial contests. He went in the ruck a little bit as well and his follow-up and intent to tackle around stoppages was good.

Translation...
He couldn't hold a grab. We shifted him into the ruck but he was no good there, but he at least attempted to tackle albeit couldn't catch a cold.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 4 2026 Carlton vs Collingwood at Carlton.
Last post by Lods -
I'm a pretty positive optimistic guy. (I suspect some think unrealistically optimistic)  but Truslove leaves me for dead. ;D
Not a weakness in sight.

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2001317?fbclid=IwY2xjawRVJ4VleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFlMGZtdjFESGJLSFNzdEZqc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHjzEjMuUBvLEcWDxf8YXaq63mCESzI_FvAZERpGhBvrR3ZRpCneoyfDLLvDk_aem_d6wyusu71nn6hBcQb-8XBg
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by northernblue -
Chalmers buying votes by allowing workers to claim $1,000 in deductions without any receipts needed. Labor just cant stop spending and adding to inflation and high debt levels.
True, but clinging onto that stuff when it's really just a drop in the ocean excuses the absence of any real opposition.

Economies work on 3 or even 4 orders of magnitude higher as the bare minimum.

A $1000 sounds great to those struggling, but it's not even covering the fuel rises for the average worker.

Let alone the shoeboxes that can now go to recycling.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by LP -
the game has evolved but Vossy hasn't.
Let's be straight about this, our 2026 game plan is radically different, and every other clubs, forced on clubs by the AFL and it's fiddling with the rules and umpiring.

Only a handful of clubs have lists suited to the current rules and game style, and even those clubs are going to be in a race of attrition.

Fans rallying against the loses are blamming a lack of change but it's a false premise. If people want to argue against a coach, player or management, at least use some facts.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by laj -
It reeks of double standards to make excuses for Clarkson at North, but not Voss. If Vossy's first 3 seasons yielded a W/L of 3-10 (plus 10 straight losses under Ratts as fill-in), 3-20 and 5-1-17, folks on here would not give any coach the BOD, whatever their previous records says. They would be screaming blue murder.
Clarko started where Bolton did here. Voss was employed to make finals from the start. Not a good comparison. Give him his due, he did that (first year near enough), but we have won 11 from the last 38, the game has evolved but Vossy hasn't. Getting outcoached on a weekly basis. It's obvious it's not going to happen under him now. Sometimes it's hard to tell if we have a crap club or the coach isn't performing, but sadly, when results aren't happening, the message is obviously not resonating. Happens quicker here than at other clubs unfortunately. Richmond changed coaches 7000 times in 30 years before the right one come along, with some help from Neil Blame as Footy Manager, and sorted things out. With it come the culture. Sometimes that's your only choice, keep changing until it happens. Not fun, but keeping the status quo won't change anything either.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Barry Cable Learns his fate
Last post by shawny -


Still like a bit unfair. What is he basing his opinion on when he says 'its more probable then not she is telling the truth' if there isn't the evidence to prove it? Is that just his opinion?

Sounds like the AFL finding Butters guilty cause the umpire say i heard him say it.

I'm all for tougher judges and sentencing but there needs to be the evidence first to find them guilty or all you have is a testamony which is just a person's version of events isn't it.

I may be missing something but i think he should not comment if the accused is found not guilty.

Yes it is the judge's opinion; his job is to form an opinion, based on the evidence presented, as to guilt or innocence.  It was a trail by judge alone so he wasn't directing a jury but determing guilt.  Part of that is assessing the truthfulness of each witness's testimony.  Cable did not take the stand.

The judge has a responsibility to see that all parties are afforded justice ... within the rules.  Commenting on the veracity or otherwise of witnesses, victims, defendants is standard practice.

Cable was found not guilty because of the requirement to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt.  He lost another child abuse case in a civil action where the burden of proof is not so onerous.  Other women gave evidence of the abuse they suffered as children so there was corroborating evidence, but of a general nature and not of the specific charges.

ok fair enough inwas not aware of his past
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The Sports Desk / Re: Barry Cable Learns his fate
Last post by PaulP -
When did "inocent until proven guilty" become "innocent until proven guilty but your probably guilty anyway"

IMO it's better to think of the concept as "not guilty until proven guilty." Innocent means you've done nothing wrong. A finding of not guilty means there is insufficient evidence to convict. The fact that he was found not guilty is not the same as him being found innocent.