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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by PaulP -
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What do you think it is Paul?
I'm not saying your wrong, but just about the only common aspects of the team from days gone by... is Cripps.
Coaches, list management, admin, players have all been turned over.
Understandably a culture of struggle and losing can impact youngsters as they come into the side.
I suspect Byrce Gibbs and Marc Murphy were introduced to a culture of struggle,loss and division.
Is that's what's happened with our group...and if that's the case is that also affecting player retention..................................................


My best guess is three reasons :
1. players passing the vibes from one generation to the next
2. general knowledge in the public domain about our recent history and several semi successful / unsuccessful attempts to re-establish ourselves as a club that wins consistently. There does not need to be direct contact between generations of Board, coaches, players etc. The history can come to you in various ways.
3. The actual lived experience of losing more games than winning.

Based on this theory, there is some validity to the idea that some on here had suggested during the rebuild years, that we should have sacked the entire club at the time - all Board, all players, coaches, fitness, everybody, and started with a real Tabula Rasa. That would at least substantively take care of points 1 and 3.

The turnaround will undoubtedly come. Whether it's next week or after we're all dead, no one can say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzWJWUTySZM

I like this clip. It's only 4 minutes or so, but after the 2 minute mark Riewoldt gives a tiny insight into what I'd guess our players experience.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Alistar Clarkson recently came out and said how to tough it is to drag a struggling team off the deck and how bottoming out will be a think of the past:
Interesting comments on StKilda:
"The game is as tough as it has ever been. You only need to go to Essendon, Richmond, West Coast, North Melbourne, a couple of others perhaps to see that. You see what's happened with St Kilda, it's nearly like you've got to do something absolutely out of the box radical to break this mould of getting yourself out of the bottom eight or 10 sides in the competition and give yourself a chance to get into the top part.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1471514/whats-realistic-in-a-rebuild-why-north-melbourne-kangaroos-coach-alastair-clarkson-says-bottoming-out-will-never-happen-again
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by ratlice -
Quote from: Lods – on
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I would suggest this issue precedes Teague by several years, and if that's true, I'd say the issues are deeper than the coach.

What do you think it is Paul?
I'm not saying you're wrong, but just about the only common aspects of the team from days gone by... is Cripps.
Coaches, list management, admin, players have all been turned over.
Understandably a culture of struggle and losing can impact youngsters as they come into the side.
I suspect Byrce Gibbs and Marc Murphy were introduced to a culture of struggle,loss and division.
Is that's what's happened with our group...and if that's the case is that also affecting player retention.

Too many smiles at the end of the game last night, not just with Curnow.
Fitness....we were done by just after half-time.
Size and strength....we're carrying a few light youngsters (and a couple of oldies) at the moment. That will improve but a large part of our list are a few years away from that maturity.
And chief of all...the inability of coaches and on-field leaders to stem that run of goals in the third term.

How many more years are we going to see this crap.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Lods -
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im not saying make the call now, but if it comes when it comes this continuation of trend will stand as one of the reasons why.

A little while ago, I mentioned downhill skiing would be an improvement.  We got there at times, where we are gold provided we are on top.

Thay evolution needs to happen.  I know that quarter was damaging for various reasons but the way the Swans piled on goals last night was typical of an issue identified back in covid years which cost teague his job.

I would suggest this issue precedes Teague by several years, and if that's true, I'd say the issues are deeper than the coach.

What do you think it is Paul?
I'm not saying you're wrong, but just about the only common aspects of the team from days gone by... is Cripps.
Coaches, list management, admin, players have all been turned over.
Understandably a culture of struggle and losing can impact youngsters as they come into the side.
I suspect Byrce Gibbs and Marc Murphy were introduced to a culture of struggle,loss and division.
Is that's what's happened with our group...and if that's the case is that also affecting player retention.

Too many smiles at the end of the game last night, not just with Curnow.
Fitness....we were done by just after half-time.
Size and strength....we're carrying a few light youngsters (and a couple of oldies) at the moment. That will improve but a large part of our list are a few years away from that maturity.
And chief of all...the inability of coaches and on-field leaders to stem that run of goals in the third term.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Voting AFL Rd 0 2026 Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by rocky -
Team - D = Same old same old

Walsh 4   - Fingers crossed he looks to be moving well
Pitto 3     - 3 goals and more importantly 3 marks!
Smith 2   - The kid is something special. I feel for him
Florent 1 - Best of the newbies
Hewett 1 - Has a go. Gets a tag nowadays
Dean 1    - Good start to his career. Will get reported at some stage
Weitering 1   - Thought he got better as the game wore on
E Hollands 1 - Giving him a pass as he hasn't played a lot of football and was good apart from his kicking
Kemp 1    - Giving him a pass as he hasn't played a lot of football and was good apart from his kicking
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Gointocarlton -
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I sat behind the goals at ground level so btw that and the goons in front us standing up all the time, it was to “see” the game. My comments are
As follows:
- we controlled the game quite well in the first half
- we transitioned the ball very well in the first half.
- at about the 10 min mark of the 3rd, we looked out of petrol and fatigued. The mistakes started at that point.
 I thought it was going to be a tough assignment  but a 12 goal to 4 3rd was as bad as I have seen from us. I dont know what we do at the 1/2 time break in the rooms with food and drink but its been a while that we come out in the 3rd looking they need a sleep because their bellies are full.
Not a good start to 2027


You know, you raise an interesting point GTC old son. I also lift an eyebrow or two when I see the massive sugar and carb hits at half time. Seems to be a dietician playbook from decades ago.

The folks I know through my work rely on quality electrolytes during sustained exertion... high in magnesium, potassium and sodium - no sugar! As for white bread carbs... p1ss off! And some folks are okay on fruit, others not at all. And definitely no caffeine tablets - great way to dehydrate!!
something aint right about how we perform in 3rd qtrs Baggers.