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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 13 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon
Last post by shawny -
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Considering Voss got blamed for every loss including ladder leaders Fremantle and Sydney we should win every game now.

So far we have !

We were 1 win 8 losses and every week we listened to excuses about the list, how its gone backwards with losing charlie losing tdk losing jack we all had to be patient and extend poor Voss contract he needs more time…

Now we are hearing the 4 wins were lucky wins that Voss would have got and our gameplan changes are all Voss work as well.

But when we lose it will see i told ya Voss wasnt the problem.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Track and Field
Last post by Lods -
Eddie Nketia running for USC at the NCAA championships has broken 10 seconds for the 100 metres again-9.95
(wind at 2.2+...just over the limit.)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 13 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: laj – on
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is it?

Spin?  Really? I stated some facts your opinion of them seems to vary based on the W/L result.
What else is it. Essendon game made my eyes bleed admittedly, but the other 3 wins, especially Geelong. Dogs is always a decent win, shouldn't be winning that if we were a true 1-8 bottom side, Port in Adelaide are just ok but it was in Adelaide and we pumped them, remembering too they hammered Geelong there. Shouldn't be winning there as a 1-8 bottom side; and the Geelong win was brilliant. shouldn't get within 10 goals as a 1.8 bottom side. Hang on, we must have underachieved the first 9 games.
 
You stated you facts and it is utter spin trying to defend the indefensible. What else do you go by other than the W/L record compared to ability. You think they play for fun? Seriously?!!! Suddenly 1-8 didn't matter? As we saw last 4 weeks we sadly underachieved severely in the first 9 games and it likely cost us come September. Anyway, keep spinning if it makes you sleep better at night. Couldn't believe your post.



The king of spin yourself. The results change and all of a sudden one guy in the coaching panel is the variance.

Its not about feeling better, I know what ive seen.  A side in a winning position every week on the improve finally getting reward for effort.

I havent even seen the bombers game as im abroad.

Ultimately, I didnt see much between say the Brisbane game and the geelong game to say that anything definitive is different.

Let's see how the season pans out, you cant do a lot in 4 weeks.  All thats changed is the weight of expectation.



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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 13 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon
Last post by laj -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Quote from: laj – on
Very clever attempt at spin. Not successful but at least you tried.
is it?

Spin?  Really? I stated some facts your opinion of them seems to vary based on the W/L result.
What else is it. Essendon game made my eyes bleed admittedly, but the other 3 wins, especially Geelong. Dogs is always a decent win, shouldn't be winning that if we were a true 1-8 bottom side, Port in Adelaide are just ok but it was in Adelaide and we pumped them, remembering too they hammered Geelong there. Shouldn't be winning there as a 1-8 bottom side; and the Geelong win was brilliant. shouldn't get within 10 goals as a 1.8 bottom side. Hang on, we must have underachieved the first 9 games.
 
You stated you facts and it is utter spin trying to defend the indefensible. What else do you go by other than the W/L record compared to ability. You think they play for fun? Seriously?!!! Suddenly 1-8 didn't matter? As we saw last 4 weeks we sadly underachieved severely in the first 9 games and it likely cost us come September. Anyway, keep spinning if it makes you sleep better at night. Couldn't believe your post.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 13 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: laj – on
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The calibre of opponent played under Fraser vs voss is being ignored way too easily.

We got the dogs on a good week, and have beaten geelong whom voss has had a good run against.  The other 2 wins against Port and essendon are unremarkable. 


Very clever attempt at spin. Not successful but at least you tried.
is it?

Spin?  Really? I stated some facts your opinion of them seems to vary based on the W/L result.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 13 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon
Last post by kruddler -
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I've also heard that Davies is pretty hands on (and omnipresent),  and the players are a bit wary (terrified, some might say) of his presence. >:D
He does have a bit of that aura about him. :D  :D

This is what i said in response to EB1 IIRC when he asked what has changed with the players.
That was my answer....they are potentially playing for their careers.
Davies sniffing around being the judge, jury and executioner at present is enough of a kick up the butt to get players giving that extra 1% to make the difference.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 13 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon
Last post by Lods -
I think the thing is not to fixate too much on this "change/no change" aspect of the coaches.
There will be some things the same, but there will also be differences (some subtle).

It's not a contest.

One of the things I've read today (and like most things you read, treat it with caution because we don't know the reliability of some sources.) is that Fraser doesn't spend as much time reviewing performances, or before they hit the training track.
It's get out and hit the track 'with vigour'.
He's big on 'fundamentals', and not afraid to give a bake.
Not better or worse...just different.

I've also heard that Davies is pretty hands on (and omnipresent),  and the players are a bit wary (terrified, some might say) of his presence. >:D
He does have a bit of that aura about him. :D  :D