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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG
Last post by kruddler -


I know this is not exactly what you were talking about and the following data doesn't take into account complete misses (look at you Harry) but point remains, i think Kemp is being a bit harshly judged.

PlayerGoalsBehindsTotal ShotsAccuracy (%)
Brendan Fevola
623
402
1,025
60.8%
Jack Gunston
593
344
937
63.3%
Robbie Gray
367
262
629
58.3%
Jamie Elliott
364
230
594
61.3%
Charlie Curnow
363
164
527
68.9%
Harry McKay
296
155
451
65.6%
Brodie Kemp
38
26
64
59.4%
Data Source: AFL Tables career records.


these stats not counting shots that go on the full or some food drop short mean they are not a true measure of goal kicking accuracy.

if you can find one that does registar all the other ‘misses’ you will find they are worlds apart

I literally said that in the post.
Not like you to respond to things without reading them (or is it?)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG
Last post by shawny -
I prefer specialist KP forwards rather than manufactured ones...we need to recruit a young KP who is a good kick at U18 level and doesn't need remedial work.
Brendon Fevola comes to mind...we don't have that player like a Fevola, Gunston, Elliott, Robbie Gray who can kick that set shot match winner in the final seconds under pressure.

I know this is not exactly what you were talking about and the following data doesn't take into account complete misses (look at you Harry) but point remains, i think Kemp is being a bit harshly judged.

PlayerGoalsBehindsTotal ShotsAccuracy (%)
Brendan Fevola
623
402
1,025
60.8%
Jack Gunston
593
344
937
63.3%
Robbie Gray
367
262
629
58.3%
Jamie Elliott
364
230
594
61.3%
Charlie Curnow
363
164
527
68.9%
Harry McKay
296
155
451
65.6%
Brodie Kemp
38
26
64
59.4%
Data Source: AFL Tables career records.


these stats not counting shots that go on the full or some food drop short mean they are not a true measure of goal kicking accuracy.

if you can find one that does registar all the other ‘misses’ you will find they are worlds apart
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG
Last post by laj -
What's the odds Frampton gets off? (Is it a Slam Dunk?)
He did! Hard to believe but got the Collingwood discount....lol.
Love the headline "Shock verdict as Tribunal finds Pie tackled dangerously... but overturns his ban anyway".

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/collingwood-magpies/afl-2026-collingwoods-billy-frampton-tribunal-appeal-for-dangerous-tackle-on-matt-whitlock-live-updates-and-blog-suspension-latest-news/news-story/a3e2398df67b3f9ac132db9d1a006c2f?fbclid=IwY2xjawTC8mBleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETJwU2Z2MjJ3YTRJRkFXSzc4c3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHuM7KeccH_qYfTuq67e1i3RjpvqYq6gZ8rMImV_ILwEMXRkhgI7HwO9BBDk7_aem_doRbgGMY0WZ3X2UAZ7iCjg
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG
Last post by pertz -
Collingwood would be deservedly starting as favorites, but not by much IMO. I think some in the AFL world would be spooked by the Hawthorn game, which is not unreasonable. I give us a slight chance, but we need 4 quarters of good footy and 18/23 contributors. And if it comes down to "taking our moments" hopefully we're good enough - the Pies have a few players who are good in that space.
They’ve taken their moments against us when it counts, same story for the last 5 games or so. We definitely owe them a 4 quarter performance, for our own sanity if nothing else.
Agree. We absolutely can beat Collingwood, the issue is mental not talent IMO. Play to win as previously mentioned, take our chances and we win. They aren't that good overall talent  but they are seasoned and disciplined.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 18 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Last post by Lods -
And another thread bites the dust. ::)  ::)

It's a fruitless argument that is dominating many threads.
The same things are being written time after time.
Yet I doubt one mind has been changed.

And in twelve months from now the whole thing will just be another sad chapter in our 21st century history.
We'll have no doubt moved on next year to a new crisis or new beginnings.
People have had their say, it's on the record.
It'll still be here as long as the site exists in it's present form.
But I doubt anyone will look back more than a few pages on any thread they engage with.

At the very least, can posters please try and confine the Voss/Fraser discussion to the relevant coach thread.

Lods, i feel your frustration.
However, yours seems directed at one side of the debate.
Don't blame the retaliators. blame the instigators.
They've been needling us for months, and continue to do so. Now the shoe is on the other foot and you expect us to continue to cop it? Not going to happen.

You probably feel that Kruddler because you're on one side of the debate
The criticism applies to both sides.

The point of 1-8 to 7-1 or whatever the score may be has also been well and truly documented.
But so is the alternative view...it's not like the other side has been quiet.
The point is these things don't need to be repeated over and over in multiple threads.
What exactly are folks  getting out of repeating the same thing.

Because if you think you're going to change the minds of those opposite you're sadly mistaken and  essentially wasting your time.
Both sides just need to let it go.
Things changed a bit with the loss on the weekend and provided an opportunity for the other side to fire a salvo.

At the moment we have three distinct groups.
Ones questioning the changes, if any.
One supporting the moves.
And a group who just want to move on and look ahead.

I'm not asking anyone to stop posting their arguments.
I'm just pointing out they're pretty futile because no minds have or will change.
And if possible can we keep them out of other threads and confine it to the umbrella thread relating to coaches.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG
Last post by LP -
PlayerGoalsBehindsTotal ShotsAccuracy (%)
Brendan Fevola
623
402
1,025
60.8%
Jack Gunston
593
344
937
63.3%
Robbie Gray
367
262
629
58.3%
Jamie Elliott
364
230
594
61.3%
Charlie Curnow
363
164
527
68.9%
Harry McKay
296
155
451
65.6%
Brodie Kemp
38
26
64
59.4%
Data Source: AFL Tables career records.
How many shots per game is that?

I think it's reasonable to assume Kemp has spent about 1/2 of his total possible game time forward of centre, maybe gets to 2 shots per game when in range. But if we apply that rule to all those forwards, and start counting the minutes players like McKay or Gunston were up the field, than the differential will be even worse.

Except for Fev, pretty much all of them spend game time up the field out of goal range.