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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
I’m sure that there have been politicians lower than Pauline “workers are lazy” Hanson but I can’t think of any.  Her disgraceful mocking of Jacqui Lambie’s condition and, by extension, women’s health generally, is lower than sharksh1t.

Lambie might be a loose cannon but she’s a veteran who served her country.  All Hanson has done is spend 30 years getting paid for hardly ever turning up for work.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: DJC – on
Independent MP Helen Haines was attacked outside her Wangaratta electorate office this afternoon.  A white 4WD did a u-turn before pinning Ms Haines against the boot of her car.  Bystanders intervened and detained the 43 year old driver of the 4WD who was apparently armed with a knife and was subsequently arrested by police. 

By all accounts, Ms Haines is a serious, decent and grounded regional MP who is genuinely admired both within and beyond her electorate and by people who wouldn't normally vote for independents.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has confirmed that counter-terrorism police are investigating the attack.

Information is still sketchy at this stage but, if the reports are accurate, it is an appalling act by a person who doesn't deserve to live in our country.

As is the usual case we need to wait for the details behind this...
Some will guess at motives, which really helps no-one at this point.
The fact that counter-terrorism police are involved probably increases speculation.

Hopefully Ms Haines recovers well, but there seemed to be a real seriousness in the tone of Albanese when he was talking about it, that suggests she's not in a good way.
I had a work colleague caught between his boot and a car crashing into the rear of his car...the 'crush' injuries were severe.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: shawny – on
Quote from: Baggers – on


You're a funny one, MBB. Though it is important for malcontents to have their representatives. Better to have them in full view and out in the open ;)  ;D

Baggers her popularity has skyrocketed on the back of people being sick and tired of the inept current mob that have ran us to the ground.

Like her or despise her she doesn't back down and is not afraid of the backlash on tough policies that benefit all Australians even if she is labelled a racist.

Her policies on tough border control has been a major positive and a hell of a lot on non pauline likers have gotten on board. People are afraid, afraid of the crime and the state of whats happening in other Christian countries where Mass immigration was allowed is only supporting her push in popularity. 

Then you have the state of our health system, the roads, essential services, serious crime and the cost of living - none are where they should be and the current debt levels will soon have to be subsidized federally as the hole old mate and his pals left is bigger then any can get out of without help. 

Change must come.    

Geez i miss EB posts on this sort of stuff - i really do :(


Uniting people, using anger and fear, is a recipe for disaster.

If you're looking for leaders, real leaders, you won't find them in politics.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
Independent MP Helen Haines was attacked outside her Wangaratta electorate office this afternoon.  A white 4WD did a u-turn before pinning Ms Haines against the boot of her car.  Bystanders intervened and detained the 43 year old driver of the 4WD who was apparently armed with a knife and was subsequently arrested by police. 

By all accounts, Ms Haines is a serious, decent and grounded regional MP who is genuinely admired both within and beyond her electorate and by people who wouldn't normally vote for independents.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has confirmed that counter-terrorism police are investigating the attack.

Information is still sketchy at this stage but, if the reports are accurate, it is an appalling act by a person who doesn't deserve to live in our country.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: Lods – on
You're all wrong.
Like the Democrats, keeping the bastards honest! ;)

I recall the lines becoming very blurred around socialist, conservative and anti-communist policy, which I think gave birth to the DLP out of ALP roots. I did learn a bit about this at school, but that's a long long time ago!

Did we have some recent invocations of the DLP allegory that turned out to be veiled fundamentalist Christianity, all linked to more radical conservatism?

I just like the jingle... :D
I didn't think were worried too much about policies and the best mob for the job . ;)
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
Aah, the politics of privatisation, is it a big problem that the big parties now all look the same?

Does anyone genuinely think this will be solved by a backyard party primarily financed by billionaires?

As I've point out, chaos at the political level open the doors to manipulation, and not just by foreign governments.

Do the people in regional Victoria wanting to vote for Hansen, think their house or farm will still be safe under a Reinhart mining interest?
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by dodge -
This isn't disagreeing, with you Thry, but a quick look at the other side...and sorry, it's a longer post than anticipated...

I would be wary of LNP promises and totally dismissive of ON...

LNP are promising to reduce the government wages bill.  Fine.  But where from and what services are going to be reduced is the important part.  As long as the public service isn't replaced by the consulting firms, which leads to an absolute disaster - no accountability, no public service knowledge and no IP retained in the departments and a cost that is eye watering.  It is also additional cost and spending that gives no long term benefit to the state.

What are the LNP plans to replace the CFA trucks? They plan to scrap the fire services levy - so where is the funding coming from?

$5b to fix 1m pot holes - $5k each?  Really?  Better to bring back the Country Road boards and have crews do it properly, rather than privateers who can do a half-Ar34ed job, so it crumbles two weeks later.

They have just announced re-opening trains to Mildura and Dimboola at a cost of $51m.  Is that for the feasibility study? Surely after 30+ years of not running it will cost heaps more to get the tracks back up to standard, get the trains and re-furb the stations.

As for ON who want zero analysis of their policies and costings - let alone any criticism.  Easy to scream about problems, but give a costed viable alternative - everything offered so far costs - where are the savings?  I do however like their Environment policy which talks about saving Koalas and other flora.  Went to a nursery the other week to ask for a Koala plant, but they didn't have any.

SRL is a bit ugly.  It is an inheritance that whoever wins will receive.  LNP to pause and review (a favorite strategy of theirs, so they don't actually have to do anything), with a hint that it will be scrapped.  ON will scrap it.  Labor will continue with it.  Scrapping it means losing everything that has been put into it and cost of paying out contracts.  It seems as if promises are to then fund cost of living relief education etc, however, does providing this bring a better economic outlook to Vic?  Is it better to pay the cancellation or go ahead - the East West Link debate.

Law and order - if the current gov isn't meeting police recruiting targets, how are LNP going to meet theirs (3k) and ON theirs (10k military veterans)?

I really just want the answers to a few questions there are probably a few more: 
1) How are you going to help the lives of the most vulnerable in our society.
2) How are you going to responsibly ensure infrastructure is in place and maintained for the current and anticipated populations
3) What on going actions are you taking to decrease the cost of living pressures/cost of business in an operational sense ie not just providing government subsidies, but meaningful, sustainable decreases?
4) How are you going to help bring our communities back together so that reasonable debate and togetherness is achieved, rather than aggressive us v them style arguments?
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
Quote from: Lods – on
You're all wrong.
Like the Democrats, keeping the bastards honest! ;)

I recall the lines becoming very blurred around socialist, conservative and anti-communist policy, which I think gave birth to the DLP out of ALP roots. I did learn a bit about this at school, but that's a long long time ago!

Did we have some recent invocations of the DLP allegory that turned out to be veiled fundamentalist Christianity, all linked to more radical conservatism?