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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
LP - the only way for my kids will be through inheritances that we will get in the next 10 years or so. I think the boat has sailed for those that aren't in such a fortunate position. I don't understand how people can repay $3k a fortnight ($1m loan) or $2.4k ($0.8m loan)
Gentleman Jim and Albo will want a piece of that inheritance money. They want to pillage Discretionary trusts and bring in a death tax by default. A lot of small business people who use DTs for distributing income  as well as will money when appropriate will get hit and switching to a fixed trust is going to cost you tax and stamp duty in some cases. Albo tried to explain it but doesn't have a clue and most of the real wealthy won't be affected...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by PaulP -
It depends. 

Look at Jagga's reaction to Saturday night.  The kid was in tears after the game.  As it is playing for carlton is hard work.  Its harder work when you arent winning.

We need to breed a winners mentality and that means forgoing the extra draft pick, and taking the hit.   Tanking will not get us anywhere because our team is far too fragile to be conditional................................

I agree Thry.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by Thryleon -

It depends. 

Look at Jagga's reaction to Saturday night.  The kid was in tears after the game.  As it is playing for carlton is hard work.  Its harder work when you arent winning.

We need to breed a winners mentality and that means forgoing the extra draft pick, and taking the hit.   Tanking will not get us anywhere because our team is far too fragile to be conditional.

What we should be doing, is absolutely flogging everyone at training, so that way we lose because we arent good enough yet, and condition them to be fitter and stronger in the process.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Port have unofficially acknowledged their list needs work and have been playing kids/ no names on a consistent basis and there has been little criticism about their form and they have slipped under the radar thanks to us and Essendon making the news everyday.
The average Carlton less informed supporter will be happy with a few sugar hit wins and not think about the big picture or how to tackle the draft changes.
It's a lot harder for us to play the system because the Carlton image is always under scrutiny and making news.
Port can be crap and no one gives a second thought why but we are always over analysed and will always attract attention with team changes and reasoning. eg We dropped Hewett and it became a weekly topic for the media. Don't think we are dumber but are caught between appearing to want to win every game to appease supporters/media and playing the system for the long game.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by PaulP -
Where was the outrage when Jeff Kennett intoduced the statue policy?  Ironically, Kennett is now outraged over the Andrews statue, but that has to be down to sour grapes.

I used to walk past the statues quite regularly and they do provide an eye-catching artistic commentary of Victoria's political history.  I think that each of the statues captures the essence of its subject, with the exception of Albert Dunstan, who I wouldn't know from a bar of soap.  $134K is peanuts and Andrews is more worthy of a statue than the scandal-ridden Henry Bolte, with his disdain of social justice and penchant for manufacturing crises to achieve his political ends.

Statues of politicians and other leaders are very common and nothing new. IMO a storm in a tea cup. There seems to be a spectrum of grievances on here and I can't quite disentangle them.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Thryleon -
The policy is a wank, but you should blame the Hon Jeff Kennett, who introduced the policy in 1999, thinking he was a shoo-in for a 3rd term and an ugly statue.

I would be curious to know how many taxpayers there are in Victoria, and what the actual cost would be to each of them. Bugger all I suspect. If nothing else, Andrews certainly deserves credit for being able to live rent free in his enemies' heads.

Where was the outrage when Jeff Kennett intoduced the statue policy?  Ironically, Kennett is now outraged over the Andrews statue, but that has to be down to sour grapes.

I used to walk past the statues quite regularly and they do provide an eye-catching artistic commentary of Victoria's political history.  I think that each of the statues captures the essence of its subject, with the exception of Albert Dunstan, who I wouldn't know from a bar of soap.  $134K is peanuts and Andrews is more worthy of a statue than the scandal-ridden Henry Bolte, with his disdain of social justice and penchant for manufacturing crises to achieve his political ends.
I believe it was uttered at the poll booth when he was ousted from his next term.

Either way, I wasnt old enough to vote at the time, as I was only 16 and in year 11, and definitely didnt notice this policy as I was busy following my hormones wherever they would lead me, and at the time, Carlton were actually good to watch so definitely couldnt have cared about statues.

But, whats a pittance here and there between pollies?  Its not like we have a runaway debt crisis, and severe financial storms.

No one mandated it had to be the case either, it was just a policy.  Something that can be cancelled at any time.