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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by Gointocarlton -
In the last two weeks we have appeared to have almost put the game away half way through the final term. What is Voss supposed to do from there? Surely that's on the leaders on the field?
We should have on field generals/leaders who are capable of marshalling the troops in these situations to lock games up and go on to win. That ability seems to be completely absent, we become a rabble and fall apart. If this doesn’t get fixed then we would be wasting our time changing the coach. IMHO the leadership group’s, including the captain’s, actual leadership performances need to be closely monitored and fixed. On field generalship and coaching seems to be sadly lacking and it has been a problem for a long time.
Amen
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by cookie2 -
In the last two weeks we have appeared to have almost put the game away half way through the final term. What is Voss supposed to do from there? Surely that's on the leaders on the field?
We should have on field generals/leaders who are capable of marshalling the troops in these situations to lock games up and go on to win. That ability seems to be completely absent, we become a rabble and fall apart. If this doesn’t get fixed then we would be wasting our time changing the coach. IMHO the leadership group’s, including the captain’s, actual leadership performances need to be closely monitored and fixed. On field generalship and coaching seems to be sadly lacking and it has been a problem for a long time.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by Thryleon -
In the last two weeks we have appeared to have almost put the game away half way through the final term. What is Voss supposed to do from there? Surely that's on the leaders on the field?
one handball from cripps resulted in the sheezel goal that put them up.

Our inability to have done more in critical situations hurt us more than any one thing the north players did.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by northernblue -


 :))  :)) Yep, I had a good laugh too... but the point remains that the long game is 2027/8 and beyond. As supporters, we're impatient for success ...right now. Yours truly included. With the appointment of Vossy we were meant to make it to the top of the tree... but never really have looked like it. Perhaps a glimmer in 2023... and that's it. And remember that in 2023, the players met without coaches and took charge themselves... with impressive results.

Vossy commented at the 2025 JNM that we "culturally defeat ourselves." As one of the most important leaders at the club, Vossy should ask himself, "How did I participate in, or allow, that?" It happened on your watch, Vossy... after four years at the helm. Mmm... full length mirror time.


To be fair Baggers, there is plenty of documented evidence that Voss has always owned the bad (and the good for that matter). One person IMO who doesnt need a full length mirror is M Voss, he knows better than anyone he is in the firing line. I'd hazard a guess and say no one is working harder than him to turn the ship around.  I cant say the same for many other senior figures at the club.

Who are these …”senior figures…” ?
And what are they doing and not doing in your opinion ?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by Gointocarlton -


Yeah, their long game is 25+ years and counting.

As best as i can tell their best option is to hope all 18 other teams fold.

 :))  :)) Yep, I had a good laugh too... but the point remains that the long game is 2027/8 and beyond. As supporters, we're impatient for success ...right now. Yours truly included. With the appointment of Vossy we were meant to make it to the top of the tree... but never really have looked like it. Perhaps a glimmer in 2023... and that's it. And remember that in 2023, the players met without coaches and took charge themselves... with impressive results.

Vossy commented at the 2025 JNM that we "culturally defeat ourselves." As one of the most important leaders at the club, Vossy should ask himself, "How did I participate in, or allow, that?" It happened on your watch, Vossy... after four years at the helm. Mmm... full length mirror time.


To be fair Baggers, there is plenty of documented evidence that Voss has always owned the bad (and the good for that matter). One person IMO who doesnt need a full length mirror is M Voss, he knows better than anyone he is in the firing line. I'd hazard a guess and say no one is working harder than him to turn the ship around.  I cant say the same for many other senior figures at the club.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by Baggers -
Seems to me the club had the long game in mind...

Yeah, their long game is 25+ years and counting.

As best as i can tell their best option is to hope all 18 other teams fold.

 :))  :)) Yep, I had a good laugh too... but the point remains that the long game is 2027/8 and beyond. As supporters, we're impatient for success ...right now. Yours truly included. With the appointment of Vossy we were meant to make it to the top of the tree... but never really have looked like it. Perhaps a glimmer in 2023... and that's it. And remember that in 2023, the players met without coaches and took charge themselves... with impressive results.

Vossy commented at the 2025 JNM that we "culturally defeat ourselves." As one of the most important leaders at the club, Vossy should ask himself, "How did I participate in, or allow, that?" It happened on your watch, Vossy... after four years at the helm. Mmm... full length mirror time.