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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by PaulP -
I was primarily referring to the voters not the politicians, in the voter demographic the grievances are non-aligned, but they all have one!........................................................

The grievances are consistent from party to party, by and large. One Nation voters would either be rusted on, or be dissatisfied with the major parties, or subscribe to one of the many flavors of anti immigration rhetoric, or whining about restrictions on their " freedom.", be "Australia First", (whatever that means) etc. You may quibble about how each of those reasons is different from the other, but as a group, they present very consistently across the globe for these far right populist types.

People having different reasons for voting for this or that party is nothing new or unique, nor is the idea that politicians would cast as a wide a net as possible to attract votes.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Last post by Lods -


For those like minded...
We're not Mick Malthouse who couldn't see where we'll lose a game.
Most can see where we'll lose a few.
For me, this is one that will challenge us.
But it's one game in many.

What we dont see is a dramatic fall in our ladder position.
If we win as many as we lose we'll have improved.

Thats a bit cheeky Lods.

Mick was just saying that every game you are a chance of winning (and losing) so going into a game saying you can't win is not something he would do. Which i challenge anyone to show a coach who thinks otherwise and throws in the towel before the game is played.

I know exactly what  he was saying...at a time when the club was pulling the rug out from underneath him...and setting us back.
Of course he didn't believe it.

The point is I don't think anyone was saying we'd be Premiers this year. We might be, but it would be totally unexpected.

What we've been suggesting all summer is that despite losing players we won't see a dramatic fall in ladder position or games won....and hopefully an improvement ln both.
Thinking a win here will be difficult is not contradictory to that position.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
There's nothing diverse about the grievances from Hanson / One Nation. Look through 30 years of her and the party's public and political life. Not only are those grievances historically and internally consistent, they map very closely to far right / populist parties and individuals all over the globe.
I was primarily referring to the voters not the politicians, in the voter demographic the grievances are non-aligned, but they all have one!

That is the politics of grievance Hanson plays up to, it's that same inclusive media rhetoric I described, the they and them versus us language. Her own declarations and policies are nothing more than a net casting as broadly as possible.

It's right not to underestimate her, but it's naive to think she could ever bring something better or greater than more pain.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by PaulP -
When you look at the grievances in detail, they are as diverse as the rainbow, the only commonality is that everybody has one!..................

There's nothing diverse about the grievances from Hanson / One Nation. Look through 30 years of her and the party's public and political life. Not only are those grievances historically and internally consistent, they map very closely to far right / populist parties and individuals all over the globe.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Last post by LP -
Moir seems to improve as the season goes on, has been close to useless early doors previous seasons
I can see a point of difference this pre-season, not just in Moir but in our list in general.
  
In the past we bulked up over the pre-season, we looked bigger and heavier, but the tactically our game style suffered with heavy legs. This pre-season to a man our squad looks leaner, but not one of them looks wasted soft, they look lean hard. More Ken Hunter than Robert Klomp.
( Relative to Mr Average the AFL players are never soft, but you know what I mean. )