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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by laj -
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Just start with the simple stuff, improve our kicking for goal and we’d probably have beaten them.
Plenty of other issues of course but getting the basics right would be a good start.
You dont need me to tell you Cookie as you have watched plenty of football over the journey that unfortunately players who are poor to average field or goal kicks rarely improve and you have to usually go out and recruit better kicking players.
Stewart Lowe is about the only player I can remember who went from being a poor kick for goal to a very reliable kick later in his career. Earl Spalding perhaps is another who improved in our last premiership year....seems like a century ago🤔😉.
Levi suddenly kicked alot straighter at the GC. We Carltonise them....haha.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by cookie2 -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: cookie2 – on
Just start with the simple stuff, improve our kicking for goal and we’d probably have beaten them.
Plenty of other issues of course but getting the basics right would be a good start.
You dont need me to tell you Cookie as you have watched plenty of football over the journey that unfortunately players who are poor to average field or goal kicks rarely improve and you have to usually go out and recruit better kicking players.
Stewart Lowe is about the only player I can remember who went from being a poor kick for goal to a very reliable kick later in his career. Earl Spalding perhaps is another who improved in our last premiership year....seems like a century ago🤔😉.
EB, when  I said improve I meant that if our current players can’t do that, then we have to replace them with players that have the skills we need. If we don’t improve to winner skill levels then we will struggle for wins for sure.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: cookie2 – on
Just start with the simple stuff, improve our kicking for goal and we’d probably have beaten them.
Plenty of other issues of course but getting the basics right would be a good start.
You dont need me to tell you Cookie as you have watched plenty of football over the journey that unfortunately players who are poor to average field or goal kicks rarely improve and you have to usually go out and recruit better kicking players.
Stewart Lowe is about the only player I can remember who went from being a poor kick for goal to a very reliable kick later in his career. Earl Spalding perhaps is another who improved in our last premiership year....seems like a century ago🤔😉.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by laj -
We had to win 7 straight just to spend a week in the top 10. Inevitably a small slump hits as that is tough to sustain. We looked flat. 4 were solid wins against sides around us for the 10, especially Geelong, who were brilliant at the time, until we started their slump. A win against the GC puts things on track again, although might be a touch late now. Didn't help with our bench down hence our bookends out.

Harry has a minor meniscus tear and bone bruising,so he will be out. Cerra is ok.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by DJC -
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Just a bit of ruck trivia.

When we played Collingwood earlier in the year Pittonet and Cameron split the hitouts 20 a piece.
Hit outs to advantage were 5-2 in favour of Pittonet.

Oscar Steene (15- HTA 6 )and Lewis Young (7 -HTA 3) also did  bit of ruck work.
So all up it was Collingwood 35 -HTA 8 v Carlton 27-HTA 8

Last night they were 39-18 in Cameron's favour but Reidy won the HTA 8 to 5
Mc Stay also had 10-HTA 1 but no other Carlton player registered  a hit out
So 49-18 in terms of first hands but 8-6 our way in terms of HTAs

But in terms of
Clearances...41-39 our way
Centre Clearances...16-11 our way
Stoppage Clearances 28-25 their way.

All pretty even.

Cameron had 18 disposals to Reidy's 16
Cameron took 3 marks Reidy 0
Cameron made 2 tackles Reidy 6
Cameron had 8 clearances to Reidy's 6
Both had 4 inside 50s
Reidy had 4 centre clearances to Cameron's 2
Cameron had 18 contested possessions to Reidy's 12
...so a bit for each of them in  those stats...

The question from all that is.... was Reidy all that bad or have we concentrated too much on 'first hands' on the ball.

Far too much emphasis is placed on hitouts without considering who wins the clearances.  Reidy crashing into Cameron at a centre ball up so that his hitout is misdirected and sharked is more of a win than a Reidy hitout that doesn't find its target.

Cameron was better on the night, but not by much.  Reidy's performance was more admirable considering that he was virtually a lone hand.  His physicality was excellent and some of his tackles were as bone-jarring as Byrner's  :)  His shot for goal was disappointing, but he wasn't Robinson Crusoe, and I'd like to see him take some marks.  At this stage, he offers more than Skull and Riley, and probably just shades Pitto.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by DJC -
Well, that was disappointing but probably inevitable after we lost Harry.

What rubbed salt into the wound was the glib way that the commentators announced that Nick Daicos, with his 35 disposals and 10 score involvements was BoG over Crippa with just 30 possessions and only seven score involvements.  Despite having a losing ruck, and taking some ruck contests himself, Crippa had more clearances, twice as many contested possessions, more marks, more tackles and he kicked two goals; a Herculean effort not padded by dinky little handball give and goes.