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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 4 2026 Carlton vs Collingwood at Carlton.
Last post by Baggers -
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He did lods.  I spotted him 4th quarter.  There wasn't much in it.

He vomited before he came off.
Then he left the field bent at around 45 degrees sideways holding his side.
Now we learn he had a lacerated kidney.

Now without being on the sidelines we're not really in a position to judge the medical assessment and the approval for him to return to the field.
But I suspect it's going to be portrayed as a second 'faliure' of the club in 24 hours to deal with a medical incident.



Exactly what I was thinking, Principal LODS. Sent back on with damaged kidney! Looks like our medical protocols/dept is in for a couple of please explains and scrutiny. Oh dear.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Fremantle in Perth
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
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Bit over Kemp and to a lesser extent Harry.
I want to try something different , thought Hayward played his best game vs the Pies and worked hard and I'd be wanting same from Moir with Ison my more stay at home forward.

Harry was playing his best game for some time IMO......but its also a pretty low bar.

Harry gets way too many concussons for a bloke 200+.

I can't see him playing out his contract with us. Still has 4.5years left.

Trade him to Tassie
Agree, he is draft capital and we need to rebuild. His performances are inconsistent and as you say  his concussions make his future uncertain..
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 4 2026 Carlton vs Collingwood at Carlton.
Last post by crashlander -
Last Quarter: What could have been:
Carlton: 11 - 19 - 85
Collingwood: 7 - 12 - 54

[1] Kicking 1 goal 6 was disappointing, but we still dominated play.
[2] As Lods noted, we have a couple of guys who stand out for what they do when they have the ball; Ashton Moir and Jack Ison. If only we could get them more involved!
[3] Apart from missing his last shot, Flynn Young again showed why I think he should be in the senior team. He had 21 disposals and was just so dangerous.
[4] On the other hand Flynn Riley disappointed somewhat in the last. He seemed to run out of a bit of juice, after his brilliant start. I would have liked to see O'Keefe ruck more, as that is his main function, but he is still a long way from the form I'd prefer to see from him.
[5] An unsung named did a good job: Jack Sammartino doesn't get heaps of the ball, but he does a job. Pity we don't have someone who can do that sort of job in the seniors.
For that matter, also some kudos to Dane Harvey who played well in defence. Collingwood had a lot of tall forwards, but we managed to minimize their effect on the game.
I can't claim to be as satisfied with Tucker, but he wasn't bad. And he provides leadership, a mature body in a team that lacks them severely.
[6] Jordan Boyd: he did some nice things, but he had 1 tackle in a team that had heaps of them. Ison had 3, Tucker had 5, Riley had 3, Chesser had 6, Lucas C had 6 as well, and we knw what happened to him.

Overall, I was really please that we won, as we hadn't won a game prior to this. I was disappointed we couldn't complete the rout, but it is a beginning. Hopefully, with a bit of continuity, we can improve our disposal and particularly, our goal kicking.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Bluesers -
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I take what CFC says these days with a grain of salt,  they aren't much better at telling the truth than politicians.    I hope the AFL and AFLPA ensure this is investigated thoroughly and honestly,   Hollands and CFC members/supporters deserve that as a minimum.

I really dont know what you expect them to say. Do people want to hear a story that just mightn't be there?

I don't want to hear anything from CFC that isn't the truth,   ie   no smoke screens,  no diversions,  no bs.    Clubs always come out with this bs that our main concern is for the player, and his welfare.     It's the pc and in vogue thing to say,  because they don't want any bad press that can affect their bottom line,   ie memberships,  sponsorships,   dollars,  dollars,  and more dollars.  It's big business, right. 

For a player with Hollands history,  I want them to explain publicly (the truth) as to why he was out on the ground for almost 2 hours of game time,,    and not coaches,  physios,  medical staff, welfare staff,  senior players etc could see that things didn't seem right???   yet outsiders from the media and members of the public were able to...     Because of his (very) recent history of issues,  shouldn't he be a player that deserves extra care / attention / monitoring/ welfare etc etc?    Apparently not....    

And also,  just because CFC come out publicly and declare it was caused by a mental health episode ,  doesn't mean that is the complete truth either...   
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Fremantle in Perth
Last post by kruddler -
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Given that Harry is out, it might be a good time to bring Ison in. Not as a direct replacement, but it'd allow others to shift one up. So Kemp could be Harry and Ison could be Kemp.

Same logic could be used on Moir who we'd likely get more of a return from.

We need to keep checking in with Moir often to see if he 'gets it' yet, because the moment he does, he'll turn games.
I'd be going hard on him in the off-season getting his running up a notch. I'd like to see him get to a stage where he could give a chop out in the middle/on a wing and rest forward. We could use his skills further up the ground.
Bit over Kemp and to a lesser extent Harry.
I want to try something different , thought Hayward played his best game vs the Pies and worked hard and I'd be wanting same from Moir with Ison my more stay at home forward.

Harry was playing his best game for some time IMO......but its also a pretty low bar.

Harry gets way too many concussons for a bloke 200+.

I can't see him playing out his contract with us. Still has 4.5years left.

Trade him to Tassie
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Fremantle in Perth
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: kruddler – on
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I'd bring in Ison for Kemp and think about Moir too...both have more talent than most on the list and both can kick straight.
Lord, Acres and Hewitt also as ins..

Given that Harry is out, it might be a good time to bring Ison in. Not as a direct replacement, but it'd allow others to shift one up. So Kemp could be Harry and Ison could be Kemp.

Same logic could be used on Moir who we'd likely get more of a return from.

We need to keep checking in with Moir often to see if he 'gets it' yet, because the moment he does, he'll turn games.
I'd be going hard on him in the off-season getting his running up a notch. I'd like to see him get to a stage where he could give a chop out in the middle/on a wing and rest forward. We could use his skills further up the ground.
Bit over Kemp and to a lesser extent Harry.
I want to try something different , thought Hayward played his best game vs the Pies and worked hard and I'd be wanting same from Moir with Ison my more stay at home forward.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Fremantle in Perth
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
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I'd bring in Ison for Kemp and think about Moir too...both have more talent than most on the list and both can kick straight.
Lord, Acres and Hewitt also as ins..
Thats a lot of changes EB, cant see that many being made. Fark it I'd do it thought, nothing to lose.
I'm going youth GTC and trying to get games in to talented players but you also need some mature support. Eg Acres isn't the future, has slowed up but is still a smart player and more capable vs better players.
Ison and Moir have talent and I'd be changing the forward line up to more of a medium and small ball lineup.
Keeping Byrne in the team too he has talent and rather go down by ten goals developing players than by five trotting out the same tried and failed every week.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Fremantle in Perth
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
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Ison is half a foot taller than byrne. Hardly like for like.

Not sure Frankie goes around at his listed 6'0" either, but thats for another day
I'd bring in Ison for Kemp and think about Moir too...both have more talent than most on the list and both can kick straight.
Lord, Acres and Hewitt also as ins..

Given that Harry is out, it might be a good time to bring Ison in. Not as a direct replacement, but it'd allow others to shift one up. So Kemp could be Harry and Ison could be Kemp.

Same logic could be used on Moir who we'd likely get more of a return from.

We need to keep checking in with Moir often to see if he 'gets it' yet, because the moment he does, he'll turn games.
I'd be going hard on him in the off-season getting his running up a notch. I'd like to see him get to a stage where he could give a chop out in the middle/on a wing and rest forward. We could use his skills further up the ground.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Fremantle in Perth
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: kruddler – on
Ison is half a foot taller than byrne. Hardly like for like.

Not sure Frankie goes around at his listed 6'0" either, but thats for another day
I'd bring in Ison for Kemp and think about Moir too...both have more talent than most on the list and both can kick straight.
Lord, Acres and Hewitt also as ins..
Thats a lot of changes EB, cant see that many being made. Fark it I'd do it thought, nothing to lose.