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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by laj -
Voss showed he hadn't and get left behind with an outdated game plan. Unlike others, I think our list isn't too bad but not the right person to to drive it. For years our attitude hasn't been consistently good, generally poor. We can tend to give up pretty easily. When all that happens people everywhere tend to revert to "poor list" when it's not always the case. We've generally been a bad club inside and out for 25 years, bar some odd years, especially under Ratten. Doesn't matter how good your list is, that situation means you do no good.

We started with a rebuild then they gave us Bolton, Teague and Voss to take charge of it. A Hardwick-type may have been different. He got 2 sides with ordinary attitudes too fire brilliantly.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: Professer E – on
Touhy left for money, he wasn't traded.

I reckon most of those who left went for reason other than PP was a crap place to be. Exceptions to this were clearly Henderson + Touhy, who both couldn't F off fast enough. Waite hated the coach.

I don't want a thread to start on this, it digging up an old corpse.  It's done, let's move on.
Touhy hated Boltons guts, he said as in a recent interview (maybe even a book?).
He couldnt get out fast enough because of that failed relationship.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by Professer E -
Touhy left for money, he wasn't traded.

I reckon most of those who left went for reason other than PP was a crap place to be. Exceptions to this were clearly Henderson + Touhy, who both couldn't F off fast enough. Waite hated the coach.

I don't want a thread to start on this, it digging up an old corpse.  It's done, let's move on.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by kruddler -
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Quote from: Baggers – on


Sorry, 3 Leos, but I do not believe we have a revolving door of people who want out. The only best 25 or so blokes who wanted out were TDK and Charles. Nothing we could do about TDK considering the massive financial from the Aints to set him up for life.

Yes, we've learned that it was not ideal in the locker room last year, but I'm more than confident that any ructions are being dealt with, if not already dealt with.

Is that right?

More want to leave us than stay recently as far as im concerned.

...and i believe that last statement is the problem.

Firstly, i take it you dont mean that literally.
Its clear more people re-signed with the club last year conpared to players who wanted out. On any given year about 1/3 to 1/2 your list is out of contract.

Secondly,
How many players have actually wanted to leave?
This year 3. We also pushed a couple.

In the last couple years, who wanted out?
Keeping in mind we pushed a couple too.

Weitering signed up last year, walsh this year. They could name their price if they left, but they didn't.