Carlton Supporters Club

Look this is pretty pointless.
You and I aren't going to agree.
So I'll finish up here...

I'm pretty sure SOS had signalled his intention to leave anyway and they brought his departure forward.

He may not have had anything of value, but he still cut the guts out of the list and then put it back together with some average players from other clubs  (many of whom he drafted) and some poor draft choices with early picks.

He had a great first draft.
Picked up Walsh, an easy choice for pick 1
The one he does get a bit of credit for is TDK.

But enough about Silvagni
He's no friend of Carlton.

Bottom line here is you sound like you're going to have a pretty miserable summer fretting about all the ways we can drop further down the ladder.
I on the other hand will be looking forward to the first practice games to see the "New Carlton"

Quote from: kruddler – on Today at 05:37:13 pm

There is a reason the spine is called a spine in football. Its important piece that everything is built around.

We are rebuilding, but not with foundations. We are doing it with fluffy pillows, wallpaper and a change of curtains. The main structure is largely being ignored, and its only a matter of time until the cracks show through and the real issues can no longer be ignored.

Why does it have to be built that way?
Who made that rule?
It may be 'traditional' list building but who is to say its the only way

SOS built a spine but failed with the other bones the heart, muscle

I'm sure Dean, O'Farrell, O'Keefe, Smith, Ison and others don't see themselves as fluffy pillows

Quote from: Lods – on Today at 05:21:05 pm

We didn't fall off a cliff.
But I'm not going to argue if you want to feel thats what happened.
We've been challenged the last two years and it proved a bit much
In 2023 we finished 5th but with a bit of luck and desperation we made it through to a prelim
In other words we played out of our skin but in the end we weren't good enough.
I suspect what happened then was there were areas identified that we needed to address and subsequent drafting has concentrated on those areas....speed, disposal, depth.

Were not going the full rebuild. We're just strengthening the foundations before we add the roof.

There is a reason the spine is called a spine in football. Its important piece that everything is built around.

We are rebuilding, but not with foundations. We are doing it with fluffy pillows, wallpaper and a change of curtains. The main structure is largely being ignored, and its only a matter of time until the cracks show through and the real issues can no longer be ignored.

Quote from: kruddler – on Today at 05:00:45 pm

I said we've falled off a cliff, you said it was extreme, i provided evidence its far from extreme and we can't simply blame it on injuries as we had every chance to get ahead of that before we did.

But, you say injuries are why we fell off a cliff, then if thats all it is, why are we rebuilding?

You see how things are not adding up?

The players we have recruited are worse than whats going out.
The reasons we are recruited said type of players is because we needed a rebuild to change things up.....which i disagree with. We didn't need a rebuild, we needed to draft long term KP depth and top up the list in areas we were deficient. Had we have done this, we would still be looking at the cliff from the top, not looking back up at it, all battered and bruised.

2 years from now, maybe we've had time to scale that cliff again, i'm far from certain thats the case, but time will tell.
In the meantime our current a-graders are entering the twilight of their careers and we have little to replace them with currently.

Yet somehow, the guys in charge are doing a terrific job.

DOES. NOT. COMPUTE.

We didn't fall off a cliff.
But I'm not going to argue if you want to feel thats what happened.
We've been challenged the last two years and it proved a bit much
In 2023 we finished 5th but with a bit of luck and desperation we made it through to a prelim
In other words we played out of our skin but in the end we weren't good enough.
I suspect what happened then was there were areas identified that we needed to address and subsequent drafting has concentrated on those areas....speed, disposal, depth.

Were not going the full rebuild. We're just strengthening the foundations before we add the roof.