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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by Professer E -
Rewatched the tape...up forward Byrne and Evans were handy and will be better for the run, Evans really adds something with his vision and disposal.  Harry had an almost game, he's going to kick a very big bag at some point, I don't know what people are upset about because we kick it dreadfully to him but he looked very mobile.
Kemp and Hayward utterly stank, likewise Florent makes too many errors for a bloke who has played 150+ games to be relied upon in defence.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by DJC -


Most people in gaol are innocent ... if you believe them  ::)

Of course.

Problem is, there are way too many who are telling the truth.

Plenty of information out there....and its not even something i follow strongly. Its too depressing TBH.

Watch....Making a Murderer.
The Staircase.
.....listen to the innocence podcast (IIRC)

Get the conviction....bleed them dry and hope they run out of money to clear their own name.

My late brother was a barrister who specialised in criminal law and he represented several clients who were on the margins of the gangland killings.  He reckoned that all of his clients were guilty but it was his job to get them off or, if that wasn't possible, to get the shortest sentence possible.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by Lods -
I'm trying to make sense of this.
I'm a little confused.
Is the suggestion that police are planting drugs on people to have them imprisoned to create a cheap workforce for the government.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by kruddler -

The fact there is a need for a defence lawyer at all is the problem.
They create their own oxygen and they do so for highly profitable reasons, they profit more by the lack of evidence and no definitive answer. In many cases they make evidence inadmissible, that consigns the plaintiff to the long drawn out and expensive loss.

Even so, it's unrelated to the issues of slavery, and closer to the subjugation I discussed earlier.

In this case the plaintiff is subjugated by his defense team via a mind f#$k!

3rd time lucky.

Why are there defense lawyers?
They are there to defend clients.

Why do the clients need defending?
Because....in part....they have been setup by corrupt police, judges, lawyers etc

THAT is my point.
THAT is in relation to slavery.
Need more people making stuff....time to start a 'war on drugs' and convict a whole community/race without consequences because the system is setup for them to fail.

Now, this might only be 1% of criminals in jail as a conservative figure.
That translates to 20,000 in the US alone. Thats a lot of (dodgy) free labour.

Now if that number is as large as some say, 10%, thats 200,000 people.

Its suggested that 4-5% of people given the death penalty are actually innocent.

How are so many innocent people being convicted??
What might happen in order to get so many innocent people convicted?? What type of people have that kind of power and ultimately who do they work for?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by laj -
Madden and Allen in 95 worked well. Was surprised we didn't stick with but it obviously didn't matter.
Yes, agree there. By the time finals came though Harry was on his own with Sticks helping out. Allan was a  younger bloke then and missed out when the time came. Allan was a dangerous man up forward. When you have that then 2 rucks works alot better. Actually both Harry and Allan were good up forward. To me, that's the only time two rucks work. No good having 2 rucks if they are useless lumps when not on the ball.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by LP -

The fact there is a need for a defence lawyer at all is the problem.
They create their own oxygen and they do so for highly profitable reasons, they profit more by the lack of evidence and no definitive answer. In many cases they make evidence inadmissible, that consigns the plaintiff to the long drawn out and expensive loss.

Even so, it's unrelated to the issues of slavery, and closer to the subjugation I discussed earlier.

In this case the plaintiff is subjugated by his defense team via a mind f#$k!

What's the great example of the concept of systemic abuse, certainly it's nothing from a podcast? Most of the very high profile cases that have resulted in reversals are ruled on technicalities, not innocence.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by kruddler -


Someone has got the message i've been spouting for years!  ;D
Outside of a couple of finals when TDK did ok forward I have never seen 2 rucks work at Carlton. Can't remember the last time it was successful. Fitzpatrick/and both Jones? Nicholls and Perc? Harry and Sartori gave us good value as Sartori gave us great value up forward. We just barely saw Sartori on the park.

Can't think of much since.

In the modern game where its all about run run run.....having any amount of extra talls blokes who limit that is a curse more than a blessing.

You could accept it up forward if your 2 blokes are kicking you bags of goals between them.
But 2 blokes in the ruck when you can only ever use 1 ruck at a time, that is, there is only ever 1 ballup, 1 throw-in etc at a time.
I've done the figures while we were using SOS as our 2nd ruck.
At best, we'd get maybe 1 extra hitout to advantage a game by playing a second ruck.
The flipside is that we expect our midfielders to play an extra 50% gametime between them to compensate, clearly making them more fatigued as a result. Given they are more fatigued, their output would drop. It could drop to the point where we get less hitouts to advantage as a result negating any perceived benefit.

Now we are more setup to handle a 2nd ruck.....but if that is HOK playing there and FF and he gets 3 touches a game and spends over a half on the bench.....then output wise its even worse than playing 2 rucks.......which yields no actual benefit anyway.

If you had unlimited players on the bench, 100% you play an extra ruck.....hell, play 4!
But thats not how it works.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by LP -
One or two rucks is not a tactical plan set in stone, you have to pick and choose when, in AFL no plan can be set in stone as you leave yourself exposed.

It's not different to having an extra KPP in D50 sometimes, you do it sometimes because of opposition strengths or your own weakness.

Last weekend Pitto shadowed Gawn, I think we need Pitto to push forward more as an alternate to Harry. We would not want the likes of Pitto and HOK dropping into D50 taking Gawn with them, anybody asserting a structure that causes that is a lunatic! If Pitto had been solo, that is exactly what Gawn would have done, drag him into our D50, because Pitto isn't capable of running solo off Gawn for four quarters. Gawn would have pushed deep at both ends and been largely unopposed.