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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Thryleon -
Seeing you dodged my point i will do the same on that long winded spin reply about nothing.
Have you noticed the Big build royal commission going on?
Or do you refuse to acknowledge it because its the labour government being accused of corruption?
Pretend the same inquiry was with Trump instead.... Would be 50 pages written on it if the names were swapped.
Cheques and balances
You really need to think before you post nonsense Shawny ... and you need to stop trying to deflect with continual references to Taco in this thread and continual references to Australian governments in the Taco thread. They're completely separate issues ... and threads.
It is the Royal Commission into the Integrity of Major Public and Civil Infrastructure Construction Projects in Victoria. It was called by the State Labor Government "to inquire into and report on matters relating to corruption, criminal conduct and serious misconduct on or in relation to major construction projects in Victoria." The allegations that prompted the Royal Commission concerned corruption and criminal conduct by the CFMEU and construction companies and poor oversight by government agencies and, potentially, the Government. The Commission is in the first week of its first block of public hearings and, to be perfectly honest, it hasn't even begun to warm up.
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Ladies Lounge / Re: AFLW 2026 Semi Final Carlton vs Hawthorn at Ikon
Last post by crashlander -B: 21 Harriet Cordner 49 Madeline Hendrie
HB: 1 Amelia Velardo 36 Ciara Fitzgerald 14 Siofra O'Connell
C: 19 Erone Fitzpatrick 25 Keeley Sherar 17 Dayna Finn
HF: 55 Sophie McKay 7 Poppy Scholz 20 Lily Goss
F: 35 Nell Morris-Dalton 3 Darcy Vescio
R: 12 Jessica Good 10 Mimi Hill 5 Abbie McKay
Int: 4 Claudia Whitfort 8 Lily Baxter 23 Lila Keck 42 Tara Bohanna 2 Lauren Bella
Em: 6 Gabriella Pound 26 Tayla McMillan 11 Yasmin Duursma
Some interesting changes for this week.
[1] Whitfort is a big inclusion. She has been excellent this season.
[2] Duursma missing out I can understand. She has been struggling of late. Not sure what her future may be like if we get someone else who can play wing.
[3] Bohanna: very risky, considering how she has played this season so far. At anything near her best, she offers the marking forward we've been screaming for, which would help us no end. She really straightened us up last year. But her form ... she couldn't hold a mark earlier and her kicking had lost the radar.
[4] Bella: she has rally struggled in recent weeks, not getting her hand on the ball and being a non-entity around the ground. She is lucky to retain her spot. I find that really disappointing, as we were looking for her to fill the whole that Bree Harrington left. And it isn't like she can't take a mark: she can, but she isn't getting to the right spot often enough. Still, if she can nullify Wales then we're headed in the right direction.
[5] Poppy Scholz is having a bit of second year blues .
She is taking her eye off the ball and fumbling, which she didn't do last year. She is another who needs to lift.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
Which party is my party Shawny?
For the record, I have never been a member of any political party and have voted for Labor, Liberal, Australian Democrats, and independent candidates. Vote Compass says I’m right of centre.
I was talking to an RSL mate at our Remembrance Day commemoration today and he just happens to be our local One Nation candidate. He’s pretty switched on and I think that he would be a decent local member. I can’t vote for him because his party is based on racism and bigotry, has no policies, and is owned by Gina Rinehart.
Another mate is running as an independent candidate and she is far and away the most intelligent and well-educated in the field. She’d be a great MP but, realistically, has no chance. I could vote for her, knowing that my vote would go to my second preference.
I didn’t speak to the sitting State MP today - the Commonwealth MP told me that I looked “sharp”! - but she is very popular and will probably retain the seat.
The Liberal candidate seems to have accepted that outcome and is doing an excellent impression of the invisible man. The Greens candidate just makes up the numbers.
The thing is that I have worked with every Victorian State Government from Henry Bolte to Denis Napthine, and have briefed and advised Labor, Liberal and Nationals Ministers in the Bracks/Brumby and Baillieu/Napthine governments. Some were risk averse, some were “courageous” as Sir Humphrey Appleby would say, some acted on advice, others wanted the advice to fit their agenda, all were driven and believed in what they were doing, and there was only ever one hint of corruption; a planning minister ignored departmental advice and approved a development that was later overturned on appeal. This was all in the days before IBAC but the Auditor-General and Ombudsman still kept a very tight rein.
I’m sure that nobody really gives a fat rat’s clacker about your bizarre political beliefs, or mine for that matter, but don’t presume that you know anything about my politics, or how the State Government is run. Right wing conspiracy theories aren’t real, and neither are the left wing equivalents.
Seeing you dodged my point i will do the same on that long winded spin reply about nothing.
Have you noticed the Big build royal commission going on?
Or do you refuse to acknowledge it because its the labour government being accused of corruption?
Pretend the same inquiry was with Trump instead.... Would be 50 pages written on it if the names were swapped.
Cheques and balances
You really need to think before you post nonsense Shawny ... and you need to stop trying to deflect with continual references to Taco in this thread and continual references to Australian governments in the Taco thread. They're completely separate issues ... and threads.
It is the Royal Commission into the Integrity of Major Public and Civil Infrastructure Construction Projects in Victoria. It was called by the State Labor Government "to inquire into and report on matters relating to corruption, criminal conduct and serious misconduct on or in relation to major construction projects in Victoria." The allegations that prompted the Royal Commission concerned corruption and criminal conduct by the CFMEU and construction companies and poor oversight by government agencies and, potentially, the Government. The Commission is in the first week of its first block of public hearings and, to be perfectly honest, it hasn't even begun to warm up.
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Ladies Lounge / Re: AFLW 2026 Semi Final Carlton vs Hawthorn at Ikon
Last post by kruddler -1 of the 3 ins this week.
INS:
Claudia Whitfort
Tara Bohanna
Lila Keck
OUTS:
Gab Pound
Yasmin Duursma
Tayla McMillan
Gab and Yas a bit stiff IMO
Keck a bit lucky.
Either way, probably the strongest side we could put out there, so lets see how it goes
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by shawny -
If anyone is a laughing stock with that statement....
You are that rusted on that you want us to believe our system prevents corrupt politicians simply as your party is the one with all the allegations of corruption! Funny that.
Yet despite having this rock solid system here we are at the start of a Royal commission costing tax payers money we don't have, representing Mr Andrews and Mrs Allan for all the corruption allegations ...
Give it up mate and just have the balls to admit your views are skewed like most of us are.
Which party is my party Shawny?
For the record, I have never been a member of any political party and have voted for Labor, Liberal, Australian Democrats, and independent candidates. Vote Compass says I’m right of centre.
I was talking to an RSL mate at our Remembrance Day commemoration today and he just happens to be our local One Nation candidate. He’s pretty switched on and I think that he would be a decent local member. I can’t vote for him because his party is based on racism and bigotry, has no policies, and is owned by Gina Rinehart.
Another mate is running as an independent candidate and she is far and away the most intelligent and well-educated in the field. She’d be a great MP but, realistically, has no chance. I could vote for her, knowing that my vote would go to my second preference.
I didn’t speak to the sitting State MP today - the Commonwealth MP told me that I looked “sharp”! - but she is very popular and will probably retain the seat.
The Liberal candidate seems to have accepted that outcome and is doing an excellent impression of the invisible man. The Greens candidate just makes up the numbers.
The thing is that I have worked with every Victorian State Government from Henry Bolte to Denis Napthine, and have briefed and advised Labor, Liberal and Nationals Ministers in the Bracks/Brumby and Baillieu/Napthine governments. Some were risk averse, some were “courageous” as Sir Humphrey Appleby would say, some acted on advice, others wanted the advice to fit their agenda, all were driven and believed in what they were doing, and there was only ever one hint of corruption; a planning minister ignored departmental advice and approved a development that was later overturned on appeal. This was all in the days before IBAC but the Auditor-General and Ombudsman still kept a very tight rein.
I’m sure that nobody really gives a fat rat’s clacker about your bizarre political beliefs, or mine for that matter, but don’t presume that you know anything about my politics, or how the State Government is run. Right wing conspiracy theories aren’t real, and neither are the left wing equivalents.
Seeing you dodged my point i will do the same on that long winded spin reply about nothing.
Have you noticed the Big build royal commission going on?
Or do you refuse to acknowledge it because its the labour government being accused of corruption?
Pretend the same inquiry was with Trump instead.... Would be 50 pages written on it if the names were swapped.
Cheques and balances
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The New Joke Thread
Last post by DJC -I said, "That's great! What are they?"
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Cricket thread
Last post by LP -9
Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
The fact of the matter is that you have an idiosyncratic view of Australian politics but assume that many people agree with that view.
Our system of government has checks and balances, and a responsive electorate, that mean that we will never have to put up with the incompetence and megalomania that's made the USA a global laughing stock ... but a very dangerous laughing stock.
If anyone is a laughing stock with that statement....
You are that rusted on that you want us to believe our system prevents corrupt politicians simply as your party is the one with all the allegations of corruption! Funny that.
Yet despite having this rock solid system here we are at the start of a Royal commission costing tax payers money we don't have, representing Mr Andrews and Mrs Allan for all the corruption allegations ...
Give it up mate and just have the balls to admit your views are skewed like most of us are.
Which party is my party Shawny?
For the record, I have never been a member of any political party and have voted for Labor, Liberal, Australian Democrats, and independent candidates. Vote Compass says I’m right of centre.
I was talking to an RSL mate at our Remembrance Day commemoration today and he just happens to be our local One Nation candidate. He’s pretty switched on and I think that he would be a decent local member. I can’t vote for him because his party is based on racism and bigotry, has no policies, and is owned by Gina Rinehart.
Another mate is running as an independent candidate and she is far and away the most intelligent and well-educated in the field. She’d be a great MP but, realistically, has no chance. I could vote for her, knowing that my vote would go to my second preference.
I didn’t speak to the sitting State MP today - the Commonwealth MP told me that I looked “sharp”! - but she is very popular and will probably retain the seat.
The Liberal candidate seems to have accepted that outcome and is doing an excellent impression of the invisible man. The Greens candidate just makes up the numbers.
The thing is that I have worked with every Victorian State Government from Henry Bolte to Denis Napthine, and have briefed and advised Labor, Liberal and Nationals Ministers in the Bracks/Brumby and Baillieu/Napthine governments. Some were risk averse, some were “courageous” as Sir Humphrey Appleby would say, some acted on advice, others wanted the advice to fit their agenda, all were driven and believed in what they were doing, and there was only ever one hint of corruption; a planning minister ignored departmental advice and approved a development that was later overturned on appeal. This was all in the days before IBAC but the Auditor-General and Ombudsman still kept a very tight rein.
I’m sure that nobody really gives a fat rat’s clacker about your bizarre political beliefs, or mine for that matter, but don’t presume that you know anything about my politics, or how the State Government is run. Right wing conspiracy theories aren’t real, and neither are the left wing equivalents.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -Give it up mate and just have the balls to admit your views are skewed like most of us are.
Whether any of us agree with or disagree with @DJC is largely irrelevant, because he is at least speaking in facts about the Westminster and other analgous politcal systems, genuine systems.
You gather opponents because of the rubbish views you post, not because of your genuine poltical views. If you want to be taken serious and listened to, you can't make sh1t up about the system of checks and balances. At least base your arguments about Australian politics on the mechanism and systems that our democracy works on!