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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 13 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Essendon at MCG
Last post by Gointocarlton -
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Nic Newman apparently underwent finger surgery today. Availability for this game yet to be determined.

I believe that Newey’s return to the team is a significant factor in our changed fortunes.  He’ll be missed if he doesn’t come up, even against the floundering Bombers.
He has done a few very ordinary and un-Newmy like things since his return. He may be on the slide. I personally wouldn't say his return was a significant factor in our 3 wins.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by Blue Moon -
Stats are stats, they mean what you want them to mean.  Geelong defenders marked everything in defence until they didn't,  then Cripps took the mark that counted and won the game.  McGovern was the one who kicked the bullet that Cripps marked.  If he only had one effective kick for the night at least it was the effective kick that was the most important.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by laj -
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A score involvement in the AFL is a statistic that credits any player who is directly involved in a successful scoring chain that results in a goal or a behind. A single player is only credited with one score involvement per scoring chain, even if they touch the ball multiple times during that play.

How a Score Involvement Happens
A player is credited with a score involvement if their action directly leads to a score through:
- A disposal (a kick or a handball)
- A hitout to advantage
- A kick-in (from the defensive goal square)
- A knock-on (tapping the ball forward to a teammate)
- Winning a free kick that directly leads to the score

So knock ons count. Conspiracy over.

Yes, that's what I said:

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It has to be direct involvement, so knock ons and hitouts count, not shepherds, blocks, etc.

So, to summarise, Gov kicked two behinds.  They count as score involvements, but aren't effective disposals.  Therefore, Gov's three effective disposals were parts of chains of possession that ended with a score, his long bomb to Crippa being one of them, and his sole goal assist.

Yes, goal assists are a better way of putting it.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by DJC -
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A score involvement in the AFL is a statistic that credits any player who is directly involved in a successful scoring chain that results in a goal or a behind. A single player is only credited with one score involvement per scoring chain, even if they touch the ball multiple times during that play.

How a Score Involvement Happens
A player is credited with a score involvement if their action directly leads to a score through:
- A disposal (a kick or a handball)
- A hitout to advantage
- A kick-in (from the defensive goal square)
- A knock-on (tapping the ball forward to a teammate)
- Winning a free kick that directly leads to the score

So knock ons count. Conspiracy over.

Yes, that's what I said:

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It has to be direct involvement, so knock ons and hitouts count, not shepherds, blocks, etc.

So, to summarise, Gov kicked two behinds.  They count as score involvements, but aren't effective disposals.  Therefore, Gov's three effective disposals were parts of chains of possession that ended with a score, his long bomb to Crippa being one of them, and his sole goal assist.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by kruddler -
Also....
A behind is not counted as an effective disposal in AFL statistics

In AFL, a "Score Involvement" is a statistical measure that records every time a player is directly involved in an unbroken passage of play that results in a goal or a behind


He kicked 2 behinds.....which is 2 score involvements that were not deemed effective.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by kruddler -
A score involvement in the AFL is a statistic that credits any player who is directly involved in a successful scoring chain that results in a goal or a behind. A single player is only credited with one score involvement per scoring chain, even if they touch the ball multiple times during that play.

How a Score Involvement Happens
A player is credited with a score involvement if their action directly leads to a score through:
- A disposal (a kick or a handball)
- A hitout to advantage
- A kick-in (from the defensive goal square)
- A knock-on (tapping the ball forward to a teammate)
- Winning a free kick that directly leads to the score

So knock ons count. Conspiracy over.