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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Dean could elevate Weitering's play
Last post by shawny -
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Dean is a throwback to when the club was at its best and its great to see a young Blue come in with vigour and attitude.
Dean Ison and Byrne will not shirk. Coupled with Cowan we are in good hands there.

Spot on and haywood loves the mental stuff and even ainsworth has a bit of you know what as well.

i was one who thought our additions to the list in the trade period were underwhelming but im very impressed with the impact they are all having.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Dean could elevate Weitering's play
Last post by Gointocarlton -
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Dean is a throwback to when the club was at its best and its great to see a young Blue come in with vigour and attitude.
we said as much about jsos back in the day. 

Dean is more special than he is though.
Scary thought that someone could out compete a Silvagni in a CFC jumper.
So pair them up, F-S vs F-S, not talent wise, but effort and competitiveness and empty the tank on match day, who wins?
Probably a conversation for another thread.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Dean could elevate Weitering's play
Last post by RiverRat -
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Dean is a throwback to when the club was at its best and its great to see a young Blue come in with vigour and attitude.
we said as much about jsos back in the day. 

Dean is more special than he is though.

Dean seems to be taller (or at least plays taller) and has much better closing speed than JSOS so is more suited to filling the Liam Jones role than anyone who has been at the club since.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 10 2026 Carlton vs Geelong at Carlton
Last post by Thryleon -
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Scott Camporeale was indeed one of the best mids, as he had the tank to run hard all day and enough pace to break the lines. Then, with his excellent kicking, he drove the ball a long way forward, often to advantage.
It was disappointing when neither of the twins seemed to have his huge tank or the potentiality of his kicking. Both of the boys can run well, but just don't have that extra pace, especially late in games.
However, I don't think they can't improve their pace, both of them.
Patrick Cripps, early in his career, did a lot of work with some running coaches to develop his running. He will never be quick, but he made the most of what he had. He worked on his explosiveness. I would like to see the twins take the same path, and develop that burst. It would do both of them the world of good and might even give them enough time to get their kicks right.

We need a young Scott in the side more than we do a young Ben or a young Lucas.

Cerra is the one.  Don't use his last two seasons as much, his hammys have caused him a lot of grief but in 2023 he was massive until he broke down.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 10 2026 Carlton vs Geelong at Carlton
Last post by kruddler -
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Are we talking about Scott Camporeale? If so, there was a patch when he played for us where he was a premier midfielder in the comp. His ability to receive, run carry, distribute or kick goals himself was elite. Broke my heart when he defected.
Scott Camporeale was indeed one of the best mids, as he had the tank to run hard all day and enough pace to break the lines. Then, with his excellent kicking, he drove the ball a long way forward, often to advantage.
It was disappointing when neither of the twins seemed to have his huge tank or the potentiality of his kicking. Both of the boys can run well, but just don't have that extra pace, especially late in games.
However, I don't think they can't improve their pace, both of them.
Patrick Cripps, early in his career, did a lot of work with some running coaches to develop his running. He will never be quick, but he made the most of what he had. He worked on his explosiveness. I would like to see the twins take the same path, and develop that burst. It would do both of them the world of good and might even give them enough time to get their kicks right.

We need a young Scott in the side more than we do a young Ben or a young Lucas.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Voting AFL Rd 12 2026 Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by crashlander -
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I wanted to give Smith votes, but he missed so many targets I feel I must not reward mediocrity. Fans bag Florent, but that game from Smith was possibly the worst kicking game I've seen from any AFL player this season.

PS; I realise he copped a bit of a corky, but he was missing well before that happened.
In the first half his kicking was going at 40%. It was much better after half time, but it is an area he can clean up. It ended up almost 60%. (Compare that the Bailey Smith, who went at 65%)
The previous week he was going at 100 %. That is probably not sustainable either, but I can wish.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 10 2026 Carlton vs Geelong at Carlton
Last post by crashlander -
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Indeed. The Old Man was solid, but unspectacular. Both the boys are better in the air. We just need to see more of it. Some of it is body strength, as they are often out-bodied at this point. Another few kg of muscle and I hope it will be different.
Are we talking about Scott Camporeale? If so, there was a patch when he played for us where he was a premier midfielder in the comp. His ability to receive, run carry, distribute or kick goals himself was elite. Broke my heart when he defected.
Scott Camporeale was indeed one of the best mids, as he had the tank to run hard all day and enough pace to break the lines. Then, with his excellent kicking, he drove the ball a long way forward, often to advantage.
It was disappointing when neither of the twins seemed to have his huge tank or the potentiality of his kicking. Both of the boys can run well, but just don't have that extra pace, especially late in games.
However, I don't think they can't improve their pace, both of them.
Patrick Cripps, early in his career, did a lot of work with some running coaches to develop his running. He will never be quick, but he made the most of what he had. He worked on his explosiveness. I would like to see the twins take the same path, and develop that burst. It would do both of them the world of good and might even give them enough time to get their kicks right.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 10 2026 Carlton vs Geelong at Carlton
Last post by crashlander -
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One thing we haven't seen much of so far from both Campos is their marking. Both of them can take some really strong marks. Luke can take a hanger. I don't think either of them has the confidence yet to show their skills in this area. They are trying to fill in roles and no taking risks.
When you are up against people you can comfortably run into the ground, it's much easier to take speccies, especially late in games, everyone around you is exhausted and you are still fresh as a daisy.

That just doesn't happen in AFL.
Not so much these days, that's very true. Even the best aerialists tend to do it early in games these days, if they do it at all. Note Mitch McGovern. Similarly, there were a couple of big Geelong marks, in the first quarter. None afterwards.

H comes into his own sometimes later in games, even though he doesn't get far off the ground. At 200+ cm and with a huge wingspan, he plucks them late quite often, when his defenders can no longer jump to spoil. He has taken some match-winning grabs late in games over the journey.
As they say, a good big man doesn't get any smaller.

The guys who can pull out the big leap late include a number of younger, leaping rucks that are now proliferating. Tom de Koning, was something of a prototype, even if he isn't doing it much at the 'Aints. When we beat Richmond in Rd 1 a few years back, Pitto wore Nankervis down. In the last quarter, a tired Nankervis could do nothing as Tom jumped over him.
It was similar when we lost to Collingwood this year. A tired Pitto couldn't control Steene in the last quarter, and Collingwood got on top.

Being able to farm that sort of leaping is becoming important. because, as LP noted, tired players don't take many speckies.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 13 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Essendon at MCG
Last post by Gointocarlton -
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Whoever (teams) hasn't realised you have to play 4 qtrs at high level week after week, will get beaten by anyone. The penny seems to have dropped with our blokes, they have a taste of winning and it seems they like it. Flirt with form and odds at your peril.

Yep. In a funny way this game on Sunday is another test - winning a game we're expected to win, and win it well. How often have we made hard work or even fallen over against a lesser opposition over the years!
I we plan and treat every opponent like they are "Geelong", we will do ok.