Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on November 12, 2014, 10:25:22 pm

Quote from: kruddler on November 12, 2014, 10:00:36 pm

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on November 12, 2014, 09:38:46 am

Keeping pick #7 would have been the long term thing to do IMO, we did this because we need Jaksch to start playing now.

Really? Thats as good as you can do? Why do we need him to play now? We just had a breakout year from Rowe who was beaten by Hawkins and not much else all year. Jamison had a serviceable year as well. Best CHB/FB combo we've had for a while, so much so that it allowed Hendo to play up forward.

As a third defender option we had White who played out of his skin and performs his role every week.

Personally, i see Jaksch as a long term replacement for Jamison and would be surprised if he played round 1.

We got Jaksch because he is a talented up and coming former first round KPP with a couple of years development under his belt ala Lachie Henderson.

Jaksch didn't cost us Fev. It cost us a drop of 10 live picks in the draft, plus we got an inside mid thrown in for free.

But your opinion is your own. Feel free to 'maintain the rage' 

White is a stop gap and  wont cut it vs the better teams with the bigger more talented forwards.......Jaskch is a CHB IMO and thats where he will play most of his footy IMO.....
We also had to get Jaksch because Watson has proven to be a banana down back and Giles probably wont play for a while if ever and that leaves us with SFA in terms of KP defenders.
Agree on Jaksch being similar to Henderson in terms of development at this stage but I dont remember Lachie playing too many games in the twos.....
Jaksch picked us because he wanted more opportunities and I dont reckon he was talking playing in the Northern Blues and would have had promises made by Mick that he would get senior game time IMO...like Henderson I think he will get his training in the seniors.

Reckon Henderson will play forward along with Jones as the KP Forwards......

All these posts prove to me is that we need another key position player and should take a look at Mckenzie, as we are still one short by my reckoning.  Particularly if someone gets injured.

Quote from: kruddler on November 12, 2014, 10:00:36 pm

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on November 12, 2014, 09:38:46 am

Keeping pick #7 would have been the long term thing to do IMO, we did this because we need Jaksch to start playing now.

Really? Thats as good as you can do? Why do we need him to play now? We just had a breakout year from Rowe who was beaten by Hawkins and not much else all year. Jamison had a serviceable year as well. Best CHB/FB combo we've had for a while, so much so that it allowed Hendo to play up forward.

As a third defender option we had White who played out of his skin and performs his role every week.

Personally, i see Jaksch as a long term replacement for Jamison and would be surprised if he played round 1.

We got Jaksch because he is a talented up and coming former first round KPP with a couple of years development under his belt ala Lachie Henderson.

Jaksch didn't cost us Fev. It cost us a drop of 10 live picks in the draft, plus we got an inside mid thrown in for free.

But your opinion is your own. Feel free to 'maintain the rage' 

White is a stop gap and  wont cut it vs the better teams with the bigger more talented forwards.......Jaskch is a CHB IMO and thats where he will play most of his footy IMO.....
We also had to get Jaksch because Watson has proven to be a banana down back and Giles probably wont play for a while if ever and that leaves us with SFA in terms of KP defenders.
Agree on Jaksch being similar to Henderson in terms of development at this stage but I dont remember Lachie playing too many games in the twos.....
Jaksch picked us because he wanted more opportunities and I dont reckon he was talking playing in the Northern Blues and would have had promises made by Mick that he would get senior game time IMO...like Henderson I think he will get his training in the seniors.

Reckon Henderson will play forward along with Jones as the KP Forwards......

Quote from: Thryleon on November 13, 2014, 09:55:30 am

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on November 12, 2014, 10:25:22 pm

Quote from: kruddler on November 12, 2014, 10:00:36 pm

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on November 12, 2014, 09:38:46 am

Keeping pick #7 would have been the long term thing to do IMO, we did this because we need Jaksch to start playing now.

Really? Thats as good as you can do? Why do we need him to play now? We just had a breakout year from Rowe who was beaten by Hawkins and not much else all year. Jamison had a serviceable year as well. Best CHB/FB combo we've had for a while, so much so that it allowed Hendo to play up forward.

As a third defender option we had White who played out of his skin and performs his role every week.

Personally, i see Jaksch as a long term replacement for Jamison and would be surprised if he played round 1.

We got Jaksch because he is a talented up and coming former first round KPP with a couple of years development under his belt ala Lachie Henderson.

Jaksch didn't cost us Fev. It cost us a drop of 10 live picks in the draft, plus we got an inside mid thrown in for free.

But your opinion is your own. Feel free to 'maintain the rage' 

White is a stop gap and  wont cut it vs the better teams with the bigger more talented forwards.......Jaskch is a CHB IMO and thats where he will play most of his footy IMO.....
We also had to get Jaksch because Watson has proven to be a banana down back and Giles probably wont play for a while if ever and that leaves us with SFA in terms of KP defenders.
Agree on Jaksch being similar to Henderson in terms of development at this stage but I dont remember Lachie playing too many games in the twos.....
Jaksch picked us because he wanted more opportunities and I dont reckon he was talking playing in the Northern Blues and would have had promises made by Mick that he would get senior game time IMO...like Henderson I think he will get his training in the seniors.

Reckon Henderson will play forward along with Jones as the KP Forwards......

All these posts prove to me is that we need another key position player and should take a look at Mckenzie, as we are still one short by my reckoning.  Particularly if someone gets injured.

Caleb Marchbank seems to be in the mix for our first pick who is a 193cm defender who should develop into a FB/CHB...

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on November 13, 2014, 10:53:53 am

Quote from: Thryleon on November 13, 2014, 09:55:30 am

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on November 12, 2014, 10:25:22 pm

Quote from: kruddler on November 12, 2014, 10:00:36 pm

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on November 12, 2014, 09:38:46 am

Keeping pick #7 would have been the long term thing to do IMO, we did this because we need Jaksch to start playing now.

Really? Thats as good as you can do? Why do we need him to play now? We just had a breakout year from Rowe who was beaten by Hawkins and not much else all year. Jamison had a serviceable year as well. Best CHB/FB combo we've had for a while, so much so that it allowed Hendo to play up forward.

As a third defender option we had White who played out of his skin and performs his role every week.

Personally, i see Jaksch as a long term replacement for Jamison and would be surprised if he played round 1.

We got Jaksch because he is a talented up and coming former first round KPP with a couple of years development under his belt ala Lachie Henderson.

Jaksch didn't cost us Fev. It cost us a drop of 10 live picks in the draft, plus we got an inside mid thrown in for free.

But your opinion is your own. Feel free to 'maintain the rage' 

White is a stop gap and  wont cut it vs the better teams with the bigger more talented forwards.......Jaskch is a CHB IMO and thats where he will play most of his footy IMO.....
We also had to get Jaksch because Watson has proven to be a banana down back and Giles probably wont play for a while if ever and that leaves us with SFA in terms of KP defenders.
Agree on Jaksch being similar to Henderson in terms of development at this stage but I dont remember Lachie playing too many games in the twos.....
Jaksch picked us because he wanted more opportunities and I dont reckon he was talking playing in the Northern Blues and would have had promises made by Mick that he would get senior game time IMO...like Henderson I think he will get his training in the seniors.

Reckon Henderson will play forward along with Jones as the KP Forwards......

All these posts prove to me is that we need another key position player and should take a look at Mckenzie, as we are still one short by my reckoning.  Particularly if someone gets injured.

Caleb Marchbank seems to be in the mix for our first pick who is a 193cm defender who should develop into a FB/CHB...

Personally, I like Henderson more as a defender than I do as a forward and I am not convinced about any of our forwards, so I would be recruiting with the eye on a forward rather than a defender.

Either way, I dont mind.  Be it Goddard, Mccartin, Mckenzie, or anyone else, I'll be happy, I just want one.

All these posts prove to me is that we need another key position player and should take a look at Mckenzie, as we are still one short by my reckoning.  Particularly if someone gets injured.

Quote from: kruddler on November 12, 2014, 10:00:36 pm

Jaksch didn't cost us Fev. It cost us a drop of 10 live picks in the draft, plus we got an inside mid thrown in for free.

Jaksch and pick 19 wasn't worth pick 7, I wouldn't call Whiley a freebie, he evened the deal up.

Simpson   Jamison        Buckley
Jakcsh.     Rowe.            Yarran
Everitt        Gibbs.           Thomas
Casboult   Henderson.  Walker
Menzel.     Jones            Carrazzo
Kreuzer.    Judd              Murphy

Docherty Curnow White Bell


Will need to see how the preseason treats Carrazzo

Much will depend on the preseason games and how players perform. I hope we see a couple of the newbies in R1 at least and I would nominate Jaksch and BB but again , injuries could be the big factor with Jaksch.

I'd love to see James also but I don't think he'll play R1.