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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn

Reply #45
When you lose by a kick in an arm wrestle, you can wear it. But when you own the game and, again, surrender when real pressure is applied there is something amiss. As MM mentioned in his article, this aint about average age and he's right.

For those who argue we could be 3 and 3, I would suggest we could also be winless had the Dishlickers not made so many mistakes and persisted with silly match-up. 1-5 is where we sit and we obviously deserve that. Reality.

Whatever was said to our blokes at half time effectively sucked the confidence and boldness out of them.

This loss (another honourable/brave loss) was worse than the GC loss. We allowed a turnaround of just under 7 goals.

Opposition sides now know to apply bona fide pressure and to change styles... we'll fold under the pressure and our coaching box will fail to adapt and adjust to the change in style.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn

Reply #46
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Opposition sides now know to apply bona fide pressure and to change styles... we'll fold under the pressure and our coaching box will fail to adapt and adjust to the change in style.

Which means that an entire coaches box of people, plus Docherty, plus Walls, are missing the same things week after week after week, even though the experts on here can all see it.

So, so funny.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn

Reply #47
When you lose by a kick in an arm wrestle, you can wear it. But when you own the game and, again, surrender when real pressure is applied there is something amiss. As MM mentioned in his article, this aint about average age and he's right.

For those who argue we could be 3 and 3, I would suggest we could also be winless had the Dishlickers not made so many mistakes and persisted with silly match-up. 1-5 is where we sit and we obviously deserve that. Reality.

Whatever was said to our blokes at half time effectively sucked the confidence and boldness out of them.

This loss (another honourable/brave loss) was worse than the GC loss. We allowed a turnaround of just under 7 goals.

Opposition sides now know to apply bona fide pressure and to change styles... we'll fold under the pressure and our coaching box will fail to adapt and adjust to the change in style.

This is the INESCAPABLE truth.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn

Reply #48
PaulP. Walls isn’t working an active role for game day coaching.
This digital world is too much for us insects to understand.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn

Reply #49
Have a look at the game again and have a look at how many goals we gifted them from mistakes and turnovers in front of their goal (inside 25m). The Jones one was the worst, SPS's one was very bad also. Kicking across the face of goal killed us.
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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn

Reply #50
Have a look at the game again and have a look at how many goals we gifted them from mistakes and turnovers in front of their goal (inside 25m). The Jones one was the worst, SPS's one was very bad also. Kicking across the face of goal killed us.

And the LOB run down. u/11 stuff.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn

Reply #51
Have a look at the game again and have a look at how many goals we gifted them from mistakes and turnovers in front of their goal (inside 25m). The Jones one was the worst, SPS's one was very bad also. Kicking across the face of goal killed us.

Marchbanks out on the full?.......we got the wobbles and the Hawks smelt fresh meat....McEvoy wasnt meant to keep going all day either and like I said if we keep letting the opposing teams
best mid run around unmanned for most of the day and rack up 40 plus then you cant expect to win.....we are every slow learners.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn

Reply #52
When Ed Curnow and Plowman get a lot of the ball we have problems.

Their disposal is pretty limited. Plowman had a dead set shocker.

Too much stop, poop yourself, turnover.

I was hoping Williamson would come in for Plowman but Simmo and Newman got injured of course.

Cripps had his worst game in a long while. Kreuzer started well but faded out in the second half.

 

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn

Reply #53
PaulP. Walls isn’t working an active role for game day coaching.

I was watching on the telly, and Walls was sitting on the bench. He doesn't need to be an active coach - if he sees something, I'm sure he would let Bolts know.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn

Reply #54
They put us under pressure at the kickin's and during those kicks across the front of goal and we folded.  We didn't get near to doing that to them and allowed too many easy exits from the back line. Can only hope that BB can learn from that.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn

Reply #55
letting the opposing teams
best mid run around unmanned for most of the day and rack up 40 plus then you cant expect to win.....we are every slow learners.

Correct. Tag O'Meara and they've got nothing.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn

Reply #56
Which means that an entire coaches box of people, plus Docherty, plus Walls, are missing the same things week after week after week, even though the experts on here can all see it.

So, so funny.

Walls is a mentor, not a game day assistant coach. And if you watch closely when Doc is talking with BB on the boundary, he's being ignored (no acknowledgment)... a small thing, but maybe indicative. Had the Dishlickers not made so many errors last week we could easily be zip 6.

When you lead by 30pts at half time, you should never be in the situation where the last 2 seconds of the game is so critical.

Gotta take your hat off to Clarkson. Slowed us down in the second then took over in the 3rd, with a side that's not nearly as good as ours on paper... but experienced coaching / man management showed us how it's done.

Another 'brave' loss. This one should hurt more than the GCSs game.

How we respond to this will be telling.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn

Reply #57
When Ed Curnow and Plowman get a lot of the ball we have problems.

Their disposal is pretty limited. Plowman had a dead set shocker.

Too much stop, poop yourself, turnover.

I was hoping Williamson would come in for Plowman but Simmo and Newman got injured of course.

Cripps had his worst game in a long while. Kreuzer started well but faded out in the second half.

Cripps got tagged by Howe and Worpel at times, we didnt help him out enough...you are right on Kreuzer, he tired and that hurt us badly in the 3rd quarter.
You can add Marchbank to Plowman...terrible disposal and you cant blame Bolton for that, be glad when Williamson and Newman are both in the backline together bringing the ball out.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn

Reply #58
The coach is not the problem. This game was won and lost by players who are still leaning and gelling together. Rookie (and not so rookie) mistakes got us in the end.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn

Reply #59
I was watching on the telly, and Walls was sitting on the bench. He doesn't need to be an active coach - if he sees something, I'm sure he would let Bolts know.

He said he has NO input at all on game day