Apparently was supposed to attend the game the week before, was a no show and his excuse was he rocked up to the ground, couldn't find a park and went home. LOL.*
*According to Damian Barrett on TFS.
wow. Where did that come from?
Rhys-Jones said on the broadcast it was disciplinary.
Wants his papers stamped or what ???
I reckon if Eddie goes then we might have a amigo's mutiny on our hands and JeffG will be next...
Bloody hell that is a p!ss poor effort. So he missed out on watching our inspiring win against Richmond because he couldn't get a park? At the MCG!?? Seriously, give me a break.
I thought something was NQR being named and playing in the 2s not the 1s. He's our leading goal kicker, why play him in the 2s I thought last week. Well that the difference btw the peanuts we have playing for us and the others. Imbeciles. And people want to blame the coach for the deficiencies of spastics like that. Gimme a farken break.
I reckon if Eddie goes then we might have a amigo's mutiny on our hands and JeffG will be next...
C ya later then, dont let the door smack your dumb arse on the way out.
Couldn't find a park? There was heaps of car parks, the crowd was small.
Couldn't find a park? There was heaps of car parks, the crowd was small.
We have the dumbest players in the comp playing for us (on and off the field).
Couldn't find a park? There was heaps of car parks, the crowd was small.
Sounds like he rocked up to the wrong ground, or never left his lounge suite.
MM accepting an excuse like that is like believing you can fly to the moon on a ham sandwich.
Maybe, just maybe Yazz and Jeffy will do much better not being under the influence of their senior bro... Eddie.
Couldn't find a park? There was heaps of car parks, the crowd was small.
Sounds like he rocked up to the wrong ground, or never left his lounge suite.
Seriously people will make a joke of this but I thinks its a disgrace and typical of the dumb arses we have out our club. About a month ago, there was a story of a young Collingwood player who got stuck in traffic on match day, ditched the car and ran the last 2 or 3 kms to the ground. Our bloke cant find a car park and goes home. I know he was playing that day and Jeffy wasnt but its just farken typical and Im sick of it. You are a paid employee of the club and you are expected to turn up when asked.
Couldn't find a park? There was heaps of car parks, the crowd was small.
Sounds like he rocked up to the wrong ground, or never left his lounge suite.
Probably closer to the truth Mants.
Hope he gets himself sorted. IMO he could one of our best easily.
Gone trade him!
One thing not to roll up, another thing all together to bullcrap to your team mates about ferking car parking. Lack of respect, lack of commitment, this should be his last game.
If true, that is not good enough for a professional sportsman.
Might be doing a complete cleanout of the three amigos and it wouldn't worry me one iota. They either fulfil their obligation to the club every week or we find someone else who will.
Very simple IMO.
Unless he was stuck in a sumptuous woman, he has no excuse.
:-[ Didn't work for me either when as a young sailor I offered up an even more lame excuse after a w/e of serious learning and pleasure. (it was Hawaii and she was a stunning African American woman 10 years older than teenage me... what would you do?!?!?).
Wow, never would have happened last year. ;D
Breathtakingly slack! WTF is going on there??
Wasn't there talk that he's had some issues in his private life recently? Even so, not an excuse.
Back this week though - be interesting to see how he goes.
FWIW the car park at the G was closed the day we played Richmond.
Wow, never would have happened last year. ;D
What wouldnt have? The weak excuse or the punishment?
FWIW our boys are princesses of the highest order, and Garlett was in Micks good books early in the year.
In any case we sit there potting the coach to defend the playing group and we end up with this sort of junk. Dont the players park under the G?
Breathtakingly slack! WTF is going on there??
Wasn't there talk that he's had some issues in his private life recently? Even so, not an excuse.
Back this week though - be interesting to see how he goes.
MM... time to be ruthlessly objective. We know you like Jeffy... even played kick-to-kick pre game, but sentiment has to go.
Will Jeffy deliver under serious finals pressure...? Ditto Eddie?
Breathtakingly slack! WTF is going on there??
Wasn't there talk that he's had some issues in his private life recently? Even so, not an excuse.
Back this week though - be interesting to see how he goes.
MM... time to be ruthlessly objective. We know you like Jeffy... even played kick-to-kick pre game, but sentiment has to go.
Will Jeffy deliver under serious finals pressure...? Ditto Eddie?
In a different set of circumstances it looks like Jeff and Yarran have been given the same treatment regarding discipline. If this is consistent we would expect to see Jeffy wearing the green vest i suppose...
It also appears that a baseline punishment for general lack of discipline and insuboordination is being set regarding consequences.
I approve of this. Its not overly harsh either. Dropped for a week.
Dont the players park under the G?
Yes.
It is extremely disappointing that Eddie, Jeff and Chris has all seemingly been unable to cope with MM and have crumbled in varying degrees when the blowtorch was placed on them in regards to discipline and application. This week may be the last game they play together
It is extremely disappointing that Eddie, Jeff and Chris has all seemingly been unable to cope with MM and have crumbled in varying degrees when the blowtorch was placed on them in regards to discipline and application. This week may be the last game they play together
I hope not.
It is extremely disappointing that Eddie, Jeff and Chris has all seemingly been unable to cope with MM and have crumbled in varying degrees when the blowtorch was placed on them in regards to discipline and application. This week may be the last game they play together
Do you think that says a lot more of their character than MM as a coach?
Do you think that says a lot more of their character than MM as a coach?
Depends which side of the fence people think
Personally, and not being a huge fan of MM, I'd say the former
It is extremely disappointing that Eddie, Jeff and Chris has all seemingly been unable to cope with MM and have crumbled in varying degrees when the blowtorch was placed on them in regards to discipline and application. This week may be the last game they play together
Do you think that says a lot more of their character than MM as a coach?
Jury's still out for me on that - the playing group under MM is very much still in the "Storming" phase AFAIC. Hopefully after the drafts and trade periods and moving beyond we'll see it move quickly through "Norming" and "Forming" and finally hit "Performing" in time for 2014. 8)
I don't understand why MM is being questioned in this latest misdemeanour. Jeff was given a simple task which he neglected and was dealt with by the leadership group.
Apparently was supposed to attend the game the week before, was a no show and his excuse was he rocked up to the ground, couldn't find a park and went home. LOL.*
*According to Damian Barrett on TFS.
But Mick only plays favourites and only disciplines Yarran.
He wouldn't discipline someone like Garlett who is his new favourite....
Oh wait. :-[
I've got no problem with the way Mick has ruled the roost and trying to get our rabble of a club focused on the end game. Taking no crap on and off the field sets the right example.
Apparently was supposed to attend the game the week before, was a no show and his excuse was he rocked up to the ground, couldn't find a park and went home. LOL.*
*According to Damian Barrett on TFS.
But Mick only plays favourites and only disciplines Yarran.
He wouldn't discipline someone like Garlett who is his new favourite....
Oh wait. :-[
Stupid point you cannot escape punishment for what Garlett did.
Did Mick pay out on him in public?
Apparently was supposed to attend the game the week before, was a no show and his excuse was he rocked up to the ground, couldn't find a park and went home. LOL.*
*According to Damian Barrett on TFS.
But Mick only plays favourites and only disciplines Yarran.
He wouldn't discipline someone like Garlett who is his new favourite....
Oh wait. :-[
Stupid point you cannot escape punishment for what Garlett did.
Did Mick pay out on him in public?
No he didn’t and as for Yarran he created his own public attention. Your argument of MM in the media is dribble at best. Move on
MM way is far better than pretending you are everyone best mate and being to afraid to upset someone. With that approach and our current list we would never have achieved anything.. The flaws in our list are there for all to see..
MM way is far better than pretending you are everyone best mate and being to afraid to upset someone.
Not that black and white. Why does not pretending to be everyone's mate mean you have to sell players out in public? You can happily do what you need to behind closed doors. The last time I checked, the Carlton Football Club was paying his paycheck. Not channel 7 and lashing out at individuals gives ch7 ratings but doesn't do all that much for our football club, from what I can see, it hurts it.
Or are we worried that if we don't get a show and dance in the media then it must mean the players are running riot at Visy park?
If you are referring to Yarran, as I said he created his own public attention.. And have we really become that sensitive? Do you really think MM comment were that bad to me they weren’t? To me they were not much.
How MM acts to the general public and how he acts internally are different. I don’t see it as problem I know the Coll players didn’t see it as problem not sure about our blokes. But I guess understanding how some would see it as a problem.
If you are referring to Yarran, as I said he created his own public attention.. And have we really become that sensitive? Do you really think MM comment were that bad to me they weren’t? To me they were not much.
How MM acts to the general public and how he acts internally are different. I don’t see it as problem I know the Coll players didn’t see it as problem not sure about our blokes. But I guess understanding how some would see it as a problem.
If he gets results it won't matter. I guess he is a much less media savvy person than I thought he was.
I'm hoping once we get the Ratten and co payments out the way we can afford to fund the footy department a little better and results will follow.
Breathtakingly slack! WTF is going on there??
Wasn't there talk that he's had some issues in his private life recently? Even so, not an excuse.
Back this week though - be interesting to see how he goes.
MM... time to be ruthlessly objective. We know you like Jeffy... even played kick-to-kick pre game, but sentiment has to go.
Will Jeffy deliver under serious finals pressure...? Ditto Eddie?
This week? Hell no. Eddie just going over for his interview.
It is extremely disappointing that Eddie, Jeff and Chris has all seemingly been unable to cope with MM and have crumbled in varying degrees when the blowtorch was placed on them in regards to discipline and application. This week may be the last game they play together
Do you think that says a lot more of their character than MM as a coach?
Rottingwood blokes all seemed to cope fine (by and large). Are struggling more coping with Buckley is what I am being told.
No he didnt and as for Yarran he created his own public attention. Your argument of MM in the media is dribble at best. Move on
It's drivel and how did Yarran create his own public attention? That is a great example of unsubstantiated drivel right there. Kudos.
Different methods work with different individuals - this may give Jeffy a kick up the bum but paying out on Yaz and making him sub time and time again seemed more like trying to break his spirit than anything else - you watch some replays, particularly the North game, something definitely not right with Yaz and Eddie looking like he was trying to keep him up - we are screwed if they all leave and I guarantee that at least one of the three will become a superstar and the other two very very good.
It's up to MM to work with each player and get the best out of them, not make them look like screwwits in front of others
Yarran showed some poor body language after being asked to wear the sub vest.
Media pick up on it (commentators on game day noticed) and then proceed to ask about it in the press conference.
Mick responds to the question.
Thats how you can arrive at that conclusion regarding created his own public attention.
Whether or not you agree with it, is a different prospect for everyone, which is why you deem it to be unreasonable, and why others dont. There is no right or wrong to this either, although you will point to his form afterwards as why it was the wrong approach, BUT I will point to his form afterwards as a reason why he wont achieve anything unless he learns to deal with the fact that Mick rules the roost and his actions affect more than just him.
As for different methods working for different individuals, when we are playing a team game, I have a problem with this thought process. Sure, you need to respect the individuals desire or wishes, and this is where strong leadership from the playing group comes into play. Mick as the senior coach, cannot afford to be seen to be playing favourites and allocating special treatment to an individual. Be it negative or positive treatment, which is why some of his treatment can be viewed to be incorrect as he has gone too far the other way. In any case, he needs to be perceived to be treating everyone equally. The leadership group are the ones that need to shoulder the responsibility of keeping everyone in check and onside because they are responsible for each other and making sure they are all happy.
It is extremely disappointing that Eddie, Jeff and Chris has all seemingly been unable to cope with MM and have crumbled in varying degrees when the blowtorch was placed on them in regards to discipline and application. This week may be the last game they play together
Do you think that says a lot more of their character than MM as a coach?
Hello? 3 players? Where do you draw the line? 4 players? 5 players? At what stage do you say 'hey, the issue may very well be the coaches methods'. I guess that will come when we havne't improved in another 2 years time. No doubt blokes like you will still be pointing their finger at the players (albeit new ones that we didn't have previously).
Yarran showed some poor body language after being asked to wear the sub vest.
Media pick up on it (commentators on game day noticed) and then proceed to ask about it in the press conference.
Mick responds to the question.
It's how he responds to the question. Remember when Murphy was getting goals kicked on him? And Mick was questioned in the media? He stuck up for him or at least deflected from the problem at hand. Same with Waite (before we lost the following game). He has taken different paths with different players. Making Yarran the sub was just taking the pi55. If he was playing equal, he would've made Murphy play a run with role the follwing week, that would be the equivalent. Yes it hurts the side but it's all about improving the player. Isn't that what Micks getting at? Or is it different for every player?
Media pick up on it (commentators on game day noticed) and then proceed to ask about it in the press conference.
Mick responds to the question.
It's a question from a journo. Not a royal commission. He isn't obliged to answer and he is quite happy to throw all sorts of ox tales and seagull theories around to avoid answering other questions.
It just seems like last resort and panic time stuff when you start breaking away from being in it together and not standing up for your guy to an external party.
Do you think that says a lot more of their character than MM as a coach?
Depends which side of the fence people think
Personally, and not being a huge fan of MM, I'd say the former
@Thry
I was clearly trolling...sorry.
Yep I can agree with this c4e
Yarran showed some poor body language after being asked to wear the sub vest.
Media pick up on it (commentators on game day noticed) and then proceed to ask about it in the press conference.
Mick responds to the question.
It's how he responds to the question. Remember when Murphy was getting goals kicked on him? And Mick was questioned in the media? He stuck up for him or at least deflected from the problem at hand. Same with Waite (before we lost the following game). He has taken different paths with different players. Making Yarran the sub was just taking the pi55. If he was playing equal, he would've made Murphy play a run with role the follwing week, that would be the equivalent. Yes it hurts the side but it's all about improving the player. Isn't that what Micks getting at? Or is it different for every player?
Blokes like me are prepared face reality and accept that our list is just not that good. The glaring holes are so obvious and what MM has delivered this year I think is on par with our list. I guess you disagree. I will state it now that if we don’t improve in 2 years time and the list has not been turned over I will be pointing the finger at the coach. Im expecting big improvements next year and If not I will probably starting question things.
As for the 3 players, Jeffy has had a very good year but has fallen away the last quarter, eddie a stinker and Yarran personally I think not to bad apart from some crap he has dished up. Should he be played of HB yep but who know MM will have a few plans up sleeve if we make finals.
Also I don’t get the impression from anyone part from Yarran that they have an issue with the coach. I think Judd comments a week or two ago are pretty telling in that.
It is extremely disappointing that Eddie, Jeff and Chris has all seemingly been unable to cope with MM and have crumbled in varying degrees when the blowtorch was placed on them in regards to discipline and application. This week may be the last game they play together
Do you think that says a lot more of their character than MM as a coach?
I think it has more to do with their character. It just seems like another example of the fragility and softness of the group in general and as highlighted here – Eddie, Jeff and Chris.
In particular Chris who is proving to be a very frustrating talent. Inconsistent and failing to live up to his potential and make any acceptable incremental gains as an AFL player year after year. At this stage of his career he should be well advanced to where he is now.
Jeff’s indiscretion is deplorable and cannot be tolerated. Eddie has been a marvellous servant and I am a big fan but his contract demands are excessive. He has been disappointing this year – perhaps unable to come to grips with MM and a generous contract elsewhere could be a convenient exit from Carlton
Mick needs to be given some time to implement his mantra and dictate his values to the group. The boys should be made of sterner stuff and take it on the chin.
Yarran showed some poor body language after being asked to wear the sub vest.
Media pick up on it (commentators on game day noticed) and then proceed to ask about it in the press conference.
Mick responds to the question.
It's how he responds to the question. Remember when Murphy was getting goals kicked on him? And Mick was questioned in the media? He stuck up for him or at least deflected from the problem at hand. Same with Waite (before we lost the following game). He has taken different paths with different players. Making Yarran the sub was just taking the pi55. If he was playing equal, he would've made Murphy play a run with role the follwing week, that would be the equivalent. Yes it hurts the side but it's all about improving the player. Isn't that what Micks getting at? Or is it different for every player?
All I did was answer this post:
It's drivel and how did Yarran create his own public attention? That is a great example of unsubstantiated drivel right there. Kudos.
This is how he created his own public attention. Read the post, not just the bit you dont like.
Media pick up on it (commentators on game day noticed) and then proceed to ask about it in the press conference.
Mick responds to the question.
It's a question from a journo. Not a royal commission. He isn't obliged to answer and he is quite happy to throw all sorts of ox tales and seagull theories around to avoid answering other questions.
It just seems like last resort and panic time stuff when you start breaking away from being in it together and not standing up for your guy to an external party.
Again, all I did, was show you how Yarran created the public attention.
Seriously, follow the conversation in the topic.
Do you think that says a lot more of their character than MM as a coach?
Depends which side of the fence people think
Personally, and not being a huge fan of MM, I'd say the former
@Thry
I was clearly trolling...sorry.
Yep I can agree with this c4e
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I dont understand, and I dont mind. I dont take anything on internet forums overly personal. Just please dont give me the sub vest!
If he did what was said to have happened then he deserved to be dropped.
If it was the leadership group that made the call then it would seem to be heading in the right direction.
In particular Chris who is proving to be a very frustrating talent. Inconsistent and failing to live up to his potential and make any acceptable incremental gains as an AFL player year after year. At this stage of his career he should be well advanced to where he is now.
See this is what pi55e5 me off (not you specifically Marci) but people in general looking at this year and saying Yarran hasn't been improving when in reality it's just this year his improvement has halted. He was actually quite well advanced last season IMO.
In particular Chris who is proving to be a very frustrating talent. Inconsistent and failing to live up to his potential and make any acceptable incremental gains as an AFL player year after year. At this stage of his career he should be well advanced to where he is now.
See this is what pi55e5 me off (not you specifically Marci) but people in general looking at this year and saying Yarran hasn't been improving when in reality it's just this year his improvement has halted. He was actually quite well advnaced last season IMO.
What do you think yarran mental approach is in comparison to say a K Jack or C Judd or anyone else of that ilk. Do you think he approaches the game and training with the same attitude? Clearly not and that answers the reason why he going through the motions until he changes his mindset he will coast and his talent will allow him to JUST get by
He's 22 years old and some Indigenous players do tend to take a little time and a little nurturing. Given the right development he would be well worth it.
Media pick up on it (commentators on game day noticed) and then proceed to ask about it in the press conference.
Mick responds to the question.
It's a question from a journo. Not a royal commission. He isn't obliged to answer and he is quite happy to throw all sorts of ox tales and seagull theories around to avoid answering other questions.
It just seems like last resort and panic time stuff when you start breaking away from being in it together and not standing up for your guy to an external party.
Again, all I did, was show you how Yarran created the public attention.
Seriously, follow the conversation in the topic.
I didn't realise that the next logical step was so hard to make. Is now any action which draws "public attention" open to slamming in the media by the coach? Where is Murphy not going hard enough, Gibbs not running hard enough and Kreuzer not showing enough aggression at the contest from the coach?
Like I said, he avoids plenty of questions - why not that one?
He's 22 years old and some Indigenous players do tend to take a little time and a little nurturing. Given the right development he would be well worth it.
What about Wingard, Prestia, Omera, Cameron.
Your missing the point and failing to accept his application is all wrong regardless of liking the coach or not.
For the record – I think he is an awesome player when on and love watching him but I would be open to trade if the right one came. But it would have to be good.
He's 22 years old and some Indigenous players do tend to take a little time and a little nurturing. Given the right development he would be well worth it.
What about Wingard, Prestia, Omera, Cameron.
Your missing the point and failing to accept his application is all wrong regardless of liking the coach or not.
No you're missing the point. Yarran needs to be nurtured, I'm happy for him not to be but taking it to the other extreme and using him as a public scapegoat? Sheer lunacy.
He's 22 years old and some Indigenous players do tend to take a little time and a little nurturing. Given the right development he would be well worth it.
What about Wingard, Prestia, Omera, Cameron.
Your missing the point and failing to accept his application is all wrong regardless of liking the coach or not.
No you're missing the point. Yarran needs to be nurtured, I'm happy for him not to be but taking it to the other extreme and using him as a public scapegoat? Sheer lunacy.
Nurtured?? For what FFS he is a grown man not a baby on his mum boob
To work hard, apply your self commit to going 100% does not require nurturing just a choice…
He's 22 years old and some Indigenous players do tend to take a little time and a little nurturing. Given the right development he would be well worth it.
What about Wingard, Prestia, Omera, Cameron.
Your missing the point and failing to accept his application is all wrong regardless of liking the coach or not.
No you're missing the point. Yarran needs to be nurtured, I'm happy for him not to be but taking it to the other extreme and using him as a public scapegoat? Sheer lunacy.
Nurtured?? For what FFS he is a grown man not a baby on his mum boob
To work hard, apply your self commit to going 100% does not require nurturing just a choice
You're so wrong it's just not funny. There are many many other factors involved other than just simply working hard. Like I said, I too don't beleive Yarran should be nurtured to that extent but to go to the other extreme is extremely disappointing and shows a certain element of CBF from where I sit.
He's 22 years old and some Indigenous players do tend to take a little time and a little nurturing. Given the right development he would be well worth it.
What about Wingard, Prestia, Omera, Cameron.
Your missing the point and failing to accept his application is all wrong regardless of liking the coach or not.
No you're missing the point. Yarran needs to be nurtured, I'm happy for him not to be but taking it to the other extreme and using him as a public scapegoat? Sheer lunacy.
Nurtured?? For what FFS he is a grown man not a baby on his mum boob
To work hard, apply your self commit to going 100% does not require nurturing just a choice…
You're so wrong it's just not funny. There are many many other factors involved other than just simply working hard. Like I said, I too don't beleive Yarran should be nurtured to that extent but to go to the other extreme is extremely disappointing and shows a certain element of CBF from where I sit.
agree to disagree
Perhaps you blokes meant neutered?
Perhaps you blokes meant neutered?
We need his kids!!
Might stop him from pissing inside the house though!
He's 22 years old and some Indigenous players do tend to take a little time and a little nurturing. Given the right development he would be well worth it.
What about Wingard, Prestia, Omera, Cameron.
Your missing the point and failing to accept his application is all wrong regardless of liking the coach or not.
No you're missing the point. Yarran needs to be nurtured, I'm happy for him not to be but taking it to the other extreme and using him as a public scapegoat? Sheer lunacy.
Fev needed to be nurtured.
We turned a blind eye to his antics as he was a special talent. He never grew up, and in the end the club suffered from this.
Yarran needs to speed up his (off-field) development and realise that an AFL career is far too short to be pissing away seasons. In the end, nobody else is to blame.
He is a keeper with his head in the right space. Has talent and ability. He does need a mentor and needs guidance. Needs a kick in the bum to start with though.
FWIW the car park at the G was closed the day we played Richmond.
Under rated post .. ;)
FWIW the car park at the G was closed the day we played Richmond.
Under rated post .. ;)
Don't players park in the undergound carpark at the G? Or wasn't he allowed b/c he wasn't selected?
FWIW the car park at the G was closed the day we played Richmond.
Under rated post .. ;)
Don't players park in the undergound carpark at the G? Or wasn't he allowed b/c he wasn't selected?
If he's officially there with the club he has a car park for sure.
FWIW the car park at the G was closed the day we played Richmond.
Under rated post .. ;)
Don't players park in the undergound carpark at the G? Or wasn't he allowed b/c he wasn't selected?
If he's officially there with the club he has a car park for sure.
Even if this wasn't the case...how hard is it to be a 'normal person' and go searching for a car park elsewhere.
Hell, double park and pay the parking fine, its cheaper then missing out on match payments!
I was intrigued by his excuse if he has reserved car parking that's all. WTF was going on that he didn't use it?
I agee, nothing to stop him finding a spot elsewhere even if he couldn't park at the "G". Guess the excuse just sounds like total BS to me.
I was intrigued by his excuse if he has reserved car parking that's all. WTF was going on that he didn't use it?
I agee, nothing to stop him finding a spot elsewhere even if he couldn't park at the "G". Guess the excuse just sounds like total BS to me.
which is precisely why he was disciplined for it.
IMHO we need to do everything to keep the Jeffy and Yaz, if Betts wants $500-$600k a year then im more than happy to let him go. We must try to build the clubs pay structure around Geelongs model. Only 2 blokes over $500k, just.
Selwood and H.Taylor and they both deserve it.
On the other hand i dont begrudge Eddie for wanting to chase more coin, only a limited time in the big league and wanting to set your family up financially is not selfish at all.
Just good business.
Jeffy and Yaz on the other hand are younger, quicker and of more worth to us than Eddie, as much as i love him.
I reckon there is something else going on at Geelong. No way players are just accepting significantly less pay. We're living in fairlyland if we think tthat's the case and even if the players did just accept it the managers wouldn't.
I reckon there is something else going on at Geelong. No way players are just accepting significantly less pay. We're living in fairlyland if we think tthat's the case and even if the players did just accept it the managers wouldn't.
I'm suspicious of them and the Hawks but I think salary cap breaches are probably the least of the worries for the Robinson/Thompson trained Cats.
Even if this wasn't the case...how hard is it to be a 'normal person' and go searching for a car park elsewhere.
Hell, double park and pay the parking fine, its cheaper then missing out on match payments!
I parked at the tennis centre and walked into the ground as the players came out.
God forbid an AFL player would use public transport! That is only for plebians!
God forbid an AFL player would use public transport! That is only for plebians!
God forbid a Carlton Player used his brain (on and off the field)