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The Sports Desk / Re: The Ashes - Third Test @ Old Trafford
Bat hit the pad, clear gap between ball and bat......NOT OUT...how can anyone give that out.
We might as well just pack up and go home.....
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Frankston vs. Northern Blues
Sunday 4th August
Frankston Oval at 2:00PM
Frankston
B: Jennings J. Irving Dermott
HB: Clark Simpson J. Newman*
C: Cass Hockey Buchan
HF: Alwan Haretuku C. Irving
F: Lloyd Lourey Pongracic
R: Gabriel Kitchin Potts
Int: Bosward Matheson Purcell A. Forato Giobbi Edwards Delahunty Boland Miller
Northern Blues
B: Davies Coulson* Joseph
HB: O'Keeffe Bootsma Posar
C: Menzel Lambert A. Gianfagna
HF: Thomas F. Dale Temay
F: Buckley Casboult Wilson
R: Warnock T. Bell Graham
Int: Lincoln Marcon McDonald Visser Dirago Meese Mitchell Dorman Bransgrove
Duigan is missing: he got a 2 week suspension at the VFL tribunal during the week. I didn't see the incident, so I have no idea how justified it was. Maybe RR can shed some light on it?
Our team this weekend is quite small, especially as Bootsma is CHB and Dale is CHF. I don't know who is going to play on Haratuku yet: he beat Watson last time we played a few weeks ago.
Mitchell is named on the bench. I am not sure what that means, but he had only 1 possession last weekend, a handball.
I like the idea of the Hendo-Waite attack. Not sure why you wouldn't give it a go.
Just feel like there's a lot of shuffling deck chairs only to find out what we already know.
Waite Hendo Attack would absolutely work...
Different Beasts, with Waite able to leap and Lead up the ground and Henderson One on one or leading out of the goal square.
Roughead/Franklin/Hale
Tippet, Pyke, White
Pods, Hawkins, Blicas/Simpson/West
Hurley, Crameri, Bellchambers/Ryder,
@laj
Jim it's well known that MM likes to build the team around a solid defence and I think he would be a bit concerned about us in this area. He's therefore likely looking at options as to how this could be fixed, albeit maybe just for what's left of this year?
He also went Cloke, Dawes and Brown in his forward line that won a flag.
Not sure Waite would be that solid in defence. Often played well as a sweeping type and played well on certain type of key forwards like Riewoldt but got monstered by the likes of Brown. Then there was the dumb turnovers, which cost us goals. We got Watson time to develop him. Still yet to let anyone down in the seniors. You're not going to build a team around a 30yo injury key defender.
If Lyon plays he would want to bowl 1000% better than he did on the weekend.
yes.
I actually don't understand why we don't send Fawad Ahmed over, especially if the pitch is going to spin. Poms would hate to face a good leggie on a truner.
Waite and Hendo up front would be an opposition coaches nightmare! Two classy, strong marking athletic forwards both with a touch of brilliance in their own special way. Combined with the amigos I can't see us losing a game if we get the ball up forward enough. Perhaps playing both of them up front requires an adjustment in tactics, more of an offensive focus.
Waite, Henderson and Casboult with the amigos becomes a most difficult combination for ant opposition coach. What will help Caboult/Rowe, with Waite back, is there isn't the pressure on them to kick goals, just focus on taking a few marks and a bit of rucking.
We have some players in the best form of their careers- Simmo, Tuohy, Walker, Hendo. Yet we have a midfield that really has been an achilles heal against the good sides this year. Murphy, Judd, Carrazzo- our offensive midfilders have been ordinary. Gibbs was good early, but he is just 'another player' in our side. Gibbs has not even got close to his 3rd season in terms of SC points and is currently averaging 11% lower than his 2009 season. His SC points have slipped consistently and his output is no different to his output last year. His first game of the year has been his best, and has not even got close to those SC points since. ie. he showed us what he can do in that game, but like his whole career, he has not delivered it consistently in 2013.
At Etihad, without Pavlich, we are 4 goals closer, but we really cannot carry the passengers that we had against the Suns. Our bottom 3 players had less SuperCoach points than the Suns worst performer. That in a 7 goal win is pretty poor (The bottom 2, Rowe and Lucas, played all or a significant part of the game). Judd's decline is interesting. Last year, his average SC points dropped by 10% from the year before and this year it has dropped a further 5%. We all know that SC points are not an exact science, but I think this analysis reflects what we are all seeing from him. Three games ago, judd was superb- but in terms of SC points, it was an anomally, 15% higher than his previous best this year and 37% better than his average. To put that into persective, he had four higher scores than that game (saints) last year, 5 better games in 2011 and 7 better games in 2010. An indication that the best of Judd is far behind and we can only really expect one other 'vintage' Judd game this year.
Murphy is an interesting one. He is 20% down on his output last year, and surprisingly, he actually came back better after the Dangerfield bump (based on SC points). However, his last 2 games against GC and St Kilda last year were well down and that form (average SC) has continued into this year. Murphy has only scored SC points that matched his average last year against Essendon, Port Adelaide, Melbourne and Geelong. He has scored his lowest scores of his career this season against the Saints and and Collingwood. Even worse than his first year.
Robbo is another, 15% down on last year. Ed is up about 8%, but is a defensive midfielder. Brock is down almost 20% too. So all in all, our midfielders are down by an average of 10-15%.
What this all means is that we can not rely on Judd anymore and for some reason, our other gun midfielder is struggling. We need Judd to meet his average (100 SC is still a good output), but we clearly need Murphy to up his output by 20% this week. What it also shows, is that we probably need to start introducing more offensive midfielders who are going to rack up some possessions. Bell and Graham have not collected less than 30 possessions in the last 4 games that they have played in the VFL. These are the types of players that we require now. We need our hands on the pill in the middle, not simply limiting the opposition's midfielders.
Bell and/or Graham need to come in this week.
Rowe was very unconvincing today.Bottom line....
He has no second effort, and if not on his terms, sometimes even no first effort.
Can take a mark when he wants, but he is a bit too stand offish for mine.
If Warnock's fit and available Rowe doesn't play.
I would also like to disagree with this.
I'd have Rowe in over Warnock.
I'd have Rowe in over Hampson.
I'd have Hampson in over Warnock.
Essentially Warnock is a 1-trick pony and having him in the side reduces the effectiveness of Kreuzer.
Ideally i think you need 6 big men in the side.
You'd want a spine consisting of something like...
Jamison
Watson
Kreuzer
Henderson
Waite
with Hampson/Rowe/Casboult as the utility tall backup ruckman on the bench.
That gives us flexibility as Henderson can cover down back.
Hampson/Rowe/Casboult can cover up forward or in the ruck.
Gives us the option of subbing out a tall late in the game if they are not required and adding more run.
Warnock only gets a game if Kreuzer is out IMO as he needs to be the #1 ruck.
Rowe and Casboult have "promised" a lot.
...as has Hampson in the past.
All have shown "promise" but......
None have yet proven to be more than just fillers.
Henderson's shown that up in just a couple of games.
I don't think any are a long term answer to that second forward/ruck role.
We need to go shopping
Rowe was very unconvincing today.
He has no second effort, and if not on his terms, sometimes even no first effort.
Can take a mark when he wants, but he is a bit too stand offish for mine.
Bottom line....
If Warnock's fit and available Rowe doesn't play.