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Re: God help me

Reply #30
Apart from Smith, Payne and maybe Wade, the rest would fill their shorts. Chuck in Thommo and Michael Holding for good measure.
Smith wouldnt know what hit him if he had the Windies quicks for company, no more deflecting through the leg side from outside off. The players who stood up vs the Windies all had short backlifts and were compact in defense like Laird, Border, S. Waugh etc....
Smith would get hit for sure IMO with his extravagant style, reckon Warner and Wade of the modern group would probably handle them best.....all be it briefly.

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Reply #31
Smith wouldnt know what hit him if he had the Windies quicks for company, no more deflecting through the leg side from outside off. The players who stood up vs the Windies all had short backlifts and were compact in defense like Laird, Border, S. Waugh etc....
Smith would get hit for sure IMO with his extravagant style, reckon Warner and Wade of the modern group would probably handle them best.....all be it briefly.
Warner? He's reminds me of the little dog who barks a lot but at the end of the day...
Smith would not die wondering, love his style.
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Reply #32
I feel for Shami getting a busted arm (already had a compound fractured finger myself this season) but he played it horribly,  only result was getting stamped once he took his eyes off it. It was a disgrace to see a bloke being unable to defend himself batting,  almost negligent from India IMO.  WTF does he do in the nets,  feast on long hops and full bungers? 

My 13 y.o. daughter plays against seniors chucking it down at 130 + and even she knows to step back and inside the line,  we practice daily by pinging tennis balls at her throat.   She wears an arm guard when playing as a precaution and eventually she'll get hit (everyone does)  but at least she doesn't scuttle off to leg, that's the worst thing possible.
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Reply #33
I feel for Shami getting a busted arm (already had a compound fractured finger myself this season) but he played it horribly,  only result was getting stamped once he took his eyes off it. It was a disgrace to see a bloke being unable to defend himself batting,  almost negligent from India IMO.  WTF does he do in the nets,  feast on long hops and full bungers? 

My 13 y.o. daughter plays against seniors chucking it down at 130 + and even she knows to step back and inside the line,  we practice daily by pinging tennis balls at her throat.   She wears an arm guard when playing as a precaution and eventually she'll get hit (everyone does)  but at least she doesn't scuttle off to leg, that's the worst thing possible.

Stop treating her like a girl, time for some tough love mate...

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Reply #34
They were truly frightening.  Colin Croft in particular, liked hurting batsmen.  

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Reply #35
My 13 y.o. daughter plays against seniors chucking it down at 130 + and even she knows to step back and inside the line,  we practice daily by pinging tennis balls at her throat.  She wears an arm guard when playing as a precaution and eventually she'll get hit (everyone does)  but at least she doesn't scuttle off to leg, that's the worst thing possible.
Yes, it's a great skill and good coaching, just a sway forward or backwards and you are out of harms way.

Before you know it things will click and she'll be putting them over the fence!

Years ago we would train the kids by having them wear a helmet, then underarm cricket balls at their head and have them head the pill away to the off or leg. It isn't harmful, and it develops timing and skill to deal with short stuff calmly, I've seen Kohli do the very same in a test match.

Here is the truth about short pitched bowling, but it assumes the pitch isn't dodgy which is a different issue of dangerous playing conditions. If I stood you or any other cricketer up at the stumps in the absence of a wicket keeper or batsmen, and asked the worlds fastest bowler to throw down a short pitched delivery at you. You can catch it, every time, it may sting the fingers but you can catch it, even if you get the world's fastest baseball pitcher to throw the pill at you from 20m away you can catch it, you'll get your hands on it 10 out of 10 and do so comfortably! The proof of this is in every quick single run out attempt when the fielder unleashes an on the run panicked red hot power throw to the bowlers end from half the pitch length away! Bowlers nearly always get hands on it, they might drop it often, but they just never cold miss it unless they think it might be a direct hit!

My associates and I have argued for some time that batsmen should be able to defend themselves with a gloved hand off the bat, still risking being caught off the gloves but not to be dismissed for handling the ball. It's a sensible application of the rules, you would find a lot of test level batsmen catching the pill in front of their face rather than being hit in the head! Let the umpires adjudicate what is a defensive action versus interference. If they palm the pill onto the wickets they are still out, but do not penalise them for successfully defending their head, and let the bowlers bowl short still as a tactic!
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Reply #36
They were truly frightening.  Colin Croft in particular, liked hurting batsmen.  
Patrick Patterson was less known but a lot of batters of that era said he was the most dangerous... Easy to forget Marshall and then later Ambrose, it was a never ending line of quality quicks. Marshall gets forgotten but his record is sensational and while smaller in stature he was highly skilled and bowled players out rather than blasting them out.

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Reply #37
Patrick Patterson was less known but a lot of batters of that era said he was the most dangerous... Easy to forget Marshall and then later Ambrose, it was a never ending line of quality quicks. Marshall gets forgotten but his record is sensational and while smaller in stature he was highly skilled and bowled players out rather than blasting them out.

Watching live Marshalls run in was something to behold, very long and very very fast.  Then he would unleash the ball and you wouldn't see anything until the batsman hit it or the keeper caught it.
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Reply #38
The problem is that in the nets you know what's coming,  you don't during play.  It's the one out of the blue that gets you. 

The Windies were ruthless,  an attitude engendered by Chappell during their 1974 tour.

Patterson on a dodgy MCG pitch slaughtered Australia,  but that pitch was to put politely,  a mother*******. He was lightning fast,  longest run I've ever seen.   Didn't he play for Victoria as well?

Marshall and Roberts scared me the most,  viscous steep bounce off a length.   And Malcolm was what,  5' 10" and came off a short run,  the pace was incredible. Bet they fizzed like a circular saw as they flashed at your throat.
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Reply #39

Patterson on a dodgy MCG pitch slaughtered Australia,  but that pitch was to put politely,  a mother*******. He was lightning fast,  longest run I've ever seen.   Didn't he play for Victoria as well?

Tassie I think

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Reply #40
Have the Indians played Burns back into form?

I guess not 🙄
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Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #41
Is this the folly of an unchanged lineup?

This pitch is nothing like Adelaide and it is not a pink ball day night test, I suppose until we see both sides bat we won't know!
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Reply #42
Disappointing batting. Have they learnt the lessons from Adelaide? It appears not.
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Reply #43
Totally and f******g over this dumb f**k mindless batting.   Fair dinkum, how stupid are these blokes? Playing Ashwin like he's chucking grenades.    I hope Langer rips strips off this mob at the end of today's play.   If Smith gets himself out by hitting to short leg again I'd drop him.   He isn't learning.  Oh look,  Head makes 30 again.   Aaaaaaaaaargggh.
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Reply #44
How come the Indians are allowed to meander along at 11 overs an hour?  
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