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Re: Russian Ukraine War

Reply #105
Why isn't anyone helping the Ukraine defend their own country?
They are but it's not going to be a slaughter, most nations involved in supporting Ukraine have Domestic Laws and Policies that govern how they can become engaged, if a country's military or politicians ignore those rules they would become war criminals in their own home.
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Re: Russian Ukraine War

Reply #106
They are but it's not going to be a slaughter, most nations involved in supporting Ukraine have Domestic Laws and Policies that govern how they can become engaged, if a country's military or politicians ignore those rules they would become war criminals in their own home.

It's weird when NATO bombed Belgrade they didn't seem to care about civilians. Wonder what the difference was?
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Re: Russian Ukraine War

Reply #107
I think it's all totally unpredictable and just a mistake or deliberate action away from a debacle.

The next Russian 'wave' won't be based on the theory they can just waltz in and take Kiev.
It will be a more considered approach, based on their previous experience,  and that might mean an initial significant 'softening' up period before engaging ground forces in large numbers.

For the Ukranian's part...they'd love to see the West involved in a direct 'boots on the ground' support. They won't care about it turning into a wider conflict. They would see that as to their advantage. Their actions won't be designed with keeping the West out of it...the opposite will be in their thoughts.

Re: Russian Ukraine War

Reply #108
Would that include the Aboriginal flag?

Interesting question MBB.  Most of us don't consider the Aboriginal flag to be a national flag but, to be consistent, all flags should be banned, particularly the boxing kangaroo. 

Some flags that no longer represent countries, or never did, are particularly offensive and/or are displayed to foment trouble.
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Re: Russian Ukraine War

Reply #109
Russia isn't backing down. They will nuke before they lose.

Not going to happen.  For a start, what would be the target(s), the country Putin's trying to annexe?  His own people would suffer almost as much as the Ukrainians.

Putin has threatened nuclear retaliation for western assistance of Ukraine and the west has stared him down.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: Russian Ukraine War

Reply #110
It's weird when NATO bombed Belgrade they didn't seem to care about civilians. Wonder what the difference was?
I bet they did, and paid a high price politically after the fact whenever civilians are injured. Of course they were trying to eject an occupied force, and that was a lesson learned. Really it just supports my point that when war breaks out innocents get hurt, many of the big brave Generals and Soldiers or in some cases rebels like the KLA, use civilians as human shields!

But I bet they(Nato) would not deal with it the same way today!
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Re: Russian Ukraine War

Reply #111
Russia and Russian's pride themselves on being strategic managers, that is why chess is so popular in the soviet block.

If Russia is pressed it will realise the way to end this current battle is to concede enabling them to live to fight another day, which they can do by knocking over the King! If the King is stupid enough to think his followers naivé then he'll be sacrificed to end the conflict.

There are 2 ways to concede or not lose.
1. as you describe.
2. Flip the entire chess board over and claim you never lost.

If anyone is going to go #2, its the nutcases in charge of Russia.