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Reply #30
Rumors Toyota have boned their customers with a up to $3000-4000 price rise on pre-ordered cars and its across the range with the Sahara being the most expensive rise. Inflationary pressures/covid etc are meant to be the reasoning, sounds like complete BS to me. You would think the price you discussed and fixed on the showroom floor would be fixed but those bean counters from Japan obviously feel inflation outweighs good business ethics.
They make a good car but they know it and are bloody arrogant kents. A mate of mine had owned Landcruiser since 1967 and when the 200 series came out, he went in to do a deal for a new one. He wanted 5 seats not 7, they said no. There were a few other things he wanted to chop and change and they just said "there it is, take it or leave it" which he did. He went and bought an Audi Q7, they basically started with the base model and gave him a shopping list of options which you ticked yes or no. You could choose btw 5 seats with full size spare or and 7 seats and a space saver. Very happy with it.
2017 - 16th
2018 - Wooden Spoon
2019 - 16th
2020 - dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021 - Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022 - Real Deal or more of the same?
2023 - "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss

Re: The classic/fave car thread

Reply #31
My recent experience with toyota was poor.  Wanted a poverty pack base Prado (manual essentially) which they weren't interested in selling, their trade in quote was insulting and the arrogance of their sales staff was breathtaking. The attitude was along the lines of "we dare you to go elsewhere and buy a lesser vehicle"....so we did.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #32
My recent experience with toyota was poor.  Wanted a poverty pack base Prado (manual essentially) which they weren't interested in selling, their trade in quote was insulting and the arrogance of their sales staff was breathtaking. The attitude was along the lines of "we dare you to go elsewhere and buy a lesser vehicle"....so we did.
Similar experience when we bought our last vehicle for my wife, looked at a RAV4
and they wouldn't budge on the price or include anything to get our business and
gave us bottom price on our trade in which was a decent car with low ks.
They have the mantle of no 1 for sales in Aus and won't deal as they feel they don't need your business and they are doing you a favour by selling you a car.
Only company worse is the three point swastika mob who think you are privileged to be driving one of their autos...

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Reply #33
Yep, Toyota are not making any new friends with he way they treat their (potential) customers.

Their cars are good, but not as good as they think. There are equivalent options out there, cheaper, with better customer service, cheaper servicing and you get what you pay for. They will lose a lot of people they are pissing off and may never get them back.

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Reply #34
I recently took my Lexus for service to a local Toyota dealer since the nearest Lexus dealer is quite  long way from my new place.
Very disappointed by their attitude considering the vehicle uses mainly Toyota parts and components . They treated it as if it was a completely different brand and I have to say weren't giving me good vibes. Don't think I will be returning there.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #35
If you want a good cheap car, Nissan have been great.  We bought an X-trail in 2017.  Have been very happy.

I would steer clear of a new car for a couple of years.  You are going to overpay for it in todays market and Id only buy one if I had to.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #36
If you want a good cheap car, Nissan have been great.  We bought an X-trail in 2017.  Have been very happy.

I would steer clear of a new car for a couple of years.  You are going to overpay for it in todays market and Id only buy one if I had to.
Yep, I agree, and you will get ripped off on trade ins as well, they are offering 3/5ths of feck all and then reselling them like they are gold plated!
 
I'm anticipating some interesting 2nd hand offerings in a very short period on some electrics as well, charging and battery tech is moving rapidly ahead but the cars being sold are not really cheaply or easily upgradeable. In the USA there is already a Tesla after-market / wrecking business that customises and resells cars that only a few year ago were cutting edge. Nobody wants the 2nd hand cars themselves, but they are ripping the guts out and putting them in Land Rover Troupees, old Corvettes or Hot Rod type custom bodies.
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Reply #37
I recently took my Lexus for service to a local Toyota dealer since the nearest Lexus dealer is quite  long way from my new place.
Very disappointed by their attitude considering the vehicle uses mainly Toyota parts and components . They treated it as if it was a completely different brand and I have to say weren't giving me good vibes. Don't think I will be returning there.
For the various cars I have owned over the years, I have used Holden, Toyota, BMW and VW dealerships. BMW were the best closely followed by VW (Mrs G2Cs current car). Holden and Toyota weren't worth the steam off my crap.
2017 - 16th
2018 - Wooden Spoon
2019 - 16th
2020 - dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021 - Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022 - Real Deal or more of the same?
2023 - "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss

Re: The classic/fave car thread

Reply #38
For the various cars I have owned over the years, I have used Holden, Toyota, BMW and VW dealerships. BMW were the best closely followed by VW (Mrs G2Cs current car). Holden and Toyota weren't worth the steam off my crap.

Interesting GTC. I used to get excellent service at the Lexus dealer but unfortunately its a whole day out for me now to take it there.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #39
Yep, I agree, and you will get ripped off on trade ins as well, they are offering 3/5ths of feck all and then reselling them like they are gold plated!
I think i said this earlier.

Bought a new Triton 2021. $48k with a couple extras, like tray, towbar etc.
After exactly 12 months (and only 7500km on the clock) i sold i back to them (got a work car)
After a lot of BS and back and forth they could only offer me $41,500. Which wasn't too bad in the end.
A week later, they had it up for sale at....i think it was $56k (it was at least $52k) Which, either way, is way more than i paid for it and more than new cars cost.

Supply and demand is very much dictating price atm.

FWIW, i knew i could've got more selling private, but CBF with all the hassle, just wanted it gone.

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Reply #40
I recently took my Lexus for service to a local Toyota dealer since the nearest Lexus dealer is quite  long way from my new place.
Very disappointed by their attitude considering the vehicle uses mainly Toyota parts and components . They treated it as if it was a completely different brand and I have to say weren't giving me good vibes. Don't think I will be returning there.
Blackburn Lexus?

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Reply #41
For the various cars I have owned over the years, I have used Holden, Toyota, BMW and VW dealerships. BMW were the best closely followed by VW (Mrs G2Cs current car). Holden and Toyota weren't worth the steam off my crap.

BMW are the best of the luxury cars with their customer support, Volvo give you flowers and chocolates plus a nice coffee after every service and make you pay for it 3 fold. VW are over priced like their love child Skoda and their service and support is littered with consumer complaints. They have some nice tech and my daughter loved her Golf but I know other people who have had real trouble with VW and getting repairs done under warranty.
Holden enough said...they are out of business in Aus for a reason/s....deplorable after sales service and backup being one of them.
Ford would be following them but for the Ranger....., Nissan and Subaru have slipped behind MG in sales which doesnt bode well for the future for them either. Pains me to say it but MG now have 83 dealers in Aus and are on the way up and seem to be dealing with customer issues as well as anyone, I wouldnt buy one of their vehicles but along with the major Korean car makers they have made real inroads into the market and its going to be hard to stop them getting a larger foothold in the market.
The 2023 MG EV is going to be a real winner for them given its pricing, improved specs and availability....

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Reply #42
Interesting GTC. I used to get excellent service at the Lexus dealer but unfortunately its a whole day out for me now to take it there.
I'd imagine Lexus is separate from Toyota and being more upmarket should be different. BMW were brilliant, very reasonably priced. I remember I had the windscreen become detached in a corner. The BMW dealership was cheaper than Obriens to repair, they offered to first try and remove it and reseal it providing they didn't crack it in the process. When it did crack, they actually recommended a non geniune one as they said the genuine were over priced and didn't charge me for the attempted reseal.
2017 - 16th
2018 - Wooden Spoon
2019 - 16th
2020 - dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021 - Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022 - Real Deal or more of the same?
2023 - "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss

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Reply #43
Blackburn Lexus?

Yes EB, that  is the nearest one to me as far as I know. I’ve had very good service from them in the past even though my old IS 300 is now getting on in years - still in great nick though (unlike its owner 🤪).
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #44
BMW are the best of the luxury cars with their customer support,
I don't own one, but I have quite a few mates who do, and let's just say BMW should be good at it, because they get lots of opportunities to demonstrate their service and support skills! ;)
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