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At the 2022 Federal Election which party will receive your first preference?

LNP
[ 7 ] (26.9%)
ALP
[ 8 ] (30.8%)
Greens
[ 2 ] (7.7%)
One Nation
[ 0 ] (0%)
United Australia Party
[ 3 ] (11.5%)
Other
[ 2 ] (7.7%)
None of the Above
[ 4 ] (15.4%)

Total Members Voted: 26

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Reply #15
Actually, if I look at Scomo my criticism of his performance is that he gets all the price of milk stuff right but does feck all real work, he's a bit like a Carny selling smoke and mirrors tricks and nothing of substance! Our version of Trump but without all the personal abuse, lies and defamation!

The reality is that Morrison didn't actually know the price of a litre of milk or a loaf of bread.  The fact is both items can vary wildly in costs and have done for years based on the variety available on the shelves and the fridges.  

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Reply #16
The reality is that Morrison didn't actually know the price of a litre of milk or a loaf of bread.  The fact is both items can vary wildly in costs and have done for years based on the variety available on the shelves and the fridges.

Yep
It's a silly question.
As we shoppers know (and most pollies and journos don't) it depends on brand and varies considerably

The problem for Scomo is that's probably the answer he should have given.

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Reply #17
The reality is that Morrison didn't actually know the price of a litre of milk or a loaf of bread.  The fact is both items can vary wildly in costs and have done for years based on the variety available on the shelves and the fridges.  

Couldn't give a rusty f*ck if SloMo doesn't know the price of milk or whatever, or if Albo doesn't know the exact unemployment figures or whatever.

What does concern me is that SloMo is a glib, shallow bullsh*tter... and Albo is about as nebulous and nondescript as you can get. Both are about as far as you can get from real leadership.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #18
Yep
It's a silly question.
As we shoppers know (and most pollies and journos don't) it depends on brand and varies considerably

The problem for Scomo is that's probably the answer he should have given.

Folks will forgive a 'not sure' or 'don't know' long before they'll forgive (if ever) guessing or pretending. We've more pressing issues than answers to these questions... which probably says more about the quality of journalism than the c0ckheads being interviewed.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #19
What Lods and I are pointing out is the stupidity of the question.  The REAL outcome is whoever loses will be replaced

EDIT ... and with what Australia has had to endure with Covid, floods, drought, fires, a trillion dollar debt and international challenges, a few in the parliament (on both sides) should shut the **** up and know who they work for.

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Reply #20
It could be worse...look at the USA ;)

Not sure thats much of a win really.

Its like comparing Cow poo to Chicken manure.  They both stink, and the variances are to do with the Nitrogen balance.

The main think that poo has over our politicians though, is that they are at least useful to feed your garden and grow some crops.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #21
Really, what choice do we have in this country? I wouldn't piss on any of them if they were on fire, and I don't just mean Lib and Lab.
2017 - 16th
2018 - Wooden Spoon
2019 - 16th
2020 - dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021 - Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022 - Real Deal or more of the same?
2023 - "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss

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Reply #22
One of the advantages of those second tier parties, who really have no chance of forming government, is that they get a bit leeway when it comes to scrutiny.
Adam Bandt can get away with a "google it mate" response when you don't know the answer.
You even get kudos for being 'witty' ::)

Albanese and Morrison don't have that luxury and would be crucified for a similar response.

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Reply #23
Maybe my memory isn't so good, but this is the first time in my voting life I have no idea who to vote for, so it will probably come down to local issues and local representation. There are only two realistic Federal options, and there is barely a whisker of difference between them.

Our Feds have reached a new level of pathetic, they are genuinely bottom of the barrel.

The poll probably needs an "Undecided" option.
The Force Awakens!

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Reply #24
One of the advantages of those second tier parties, who really have no chance of forming government, is that they get a bit leeway when it comes to scrutiny.
Adam Bandt can get away with a "google it mate" response when you don't know the answer.
You even get kudos for being 'witty' ::)

Albanese and Morrison don't have that luxury and would be crucified for a similar response.

Albanese and Morrison wouldn’t get away with it because they don’t have the quick wit and delivery needed.  Bandt’s response was perfect and well beyond the capacity of Albo and Scotty, neither of whom are natural or accomplished communicators.

What interested me about that clip was the attitude of the reporter.  He seemed to be determined to skewer Bandt with his detailed but ultimately inane question.

Of course, the “Google it” response is now not available to others, but it may discourage more gotcha questions.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #25
Maybe my memory isn't so good, but this is the first time in my voting life I have no idea who to vote for, so it will probably come down to local issues and local representation. There are only two realistic Federal options, and there is barely a whisker of difference between them.

Our Feds have reached a new level of pathetic, they are genuinely bottom of the barrel.

The poll probably needs an "Undecided" option.

I'm feeling pretty much the same way so I'm going to have a good look at local options.

The poll is set up so you can change your vote between now and polling day. So if undecided leave it for a bit or go with the side you currently lean towards.

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Reply #26
Albanese and Morrison wouldn’t get away with it because they don’t have the quick wit and delivery needed.  Bandt’s response was perfect and well beyond the capacity of Albo and Scotty, neither of whom are natural or accomplished communicators.

What interested me about that clip was the attitude of the reporter.  He seemed to be determined to skewer Bandt with his detailed but ultimately inane question.

Of course, the “Google it” response is now not available to others, but it may discourage more gotcha questions.

Do you reckon Albanese would have got away with "Google it" on such a key figure as the unemployment rate...No way in the world. It would have been seen as not taking it seriously and being disrespectful...and as good as an acknowledgement he didn't know the answer.

There are different standards.

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Reply #27
Do you reckon Albanese would have got away with "Google it" on such a key figure as the unemployment rate...
Albanese should have been ready for a price of milk question, he didn't need to have the answer but he should have been able to demonstrate an ability to get his own message out. After all, since when do politicians answer questions.

Bandt's "Google It" response might not fly for Scomo or Albanese, but the rest of Bandt's response was on the money, the debate should be about policies not trivia and fact checking.

Scomo should almost be relabelled Prime Minister of Trivia, he gives you no substance whatsoever. Albanese has policies to talk about but they have to levered out of him like getting a tyre off a rim! Between them they are so non-committal it is simply pathetic, I have no other word to describe the situation.

Scomo is a "gunna" man, he's gunna do this, gunna do that, but in the end he does feck all! Fires in 2019, floods in 2020, thousands of people still living in tents and millions in donations hoovered up by the Red Cross and other charities never to be seen again, at least not by the intended recipients! Scomo's response basically boils down to a bunch of "gunna promises" followed up much later by "What could we have done!" He always talks about "what they are doing" or "what we are going to do", but they do not actually do anything! It looks to me like Scomo's primary skill is colluding with the NSW Right to retain his seat in the big chair.
The Force Awakens!

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Reply #28
Maybe my memory isn't so good, but this is the first time in my voting life I have no idea who to vote for, so it will probably come down to local issues and local representation. There are only two realistic Federal options, and there is barely a whisker of difference between them.

Our Feds have reached a new level of pathetic, they are genuinely bottom of the barrel.

The poll probably needs an "Undecided" option.

Nice summary, Spotted One. Laceratingly accurate.

Each of them has all the inspiration of mould. With apologies to the many, amazing uses for mould.

About 80% of Aussies are welded to their political ideologies and whoever leads their party of choice will not be viewed objectively - too threatening. They'll make excuses for their choice, no matter their level of incompetence, and find all manner of fault with the person representing the other side. Didn't Einstein say that such blind loyalty spoke to them no longer needing brain? Just a brain stem for breathing, walking, chewing...
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #29
Each of them has all the inspiration of mould. With apologies to the many, amazing uses for mould.
This is really the conundrum, because there is no way in hell though the history of Australian Politics that a bloke like Scomo gets a second gig, but the opposition is so intensely similar and pissweak I fear it will happen.

In the annals of Australian political history the Scomo section will be a name, at start date and a finish date with no other content in between, perhaps just some ellipsis!

Scomo might well be rewarded for delivering even less than mediocrity!
The Force Awakens!