Carlton Supporters Club

I'd be content if Bolton would work with the list he has. But he doesn't and his game plan isn't right for where our playing group is at. We need to get the basics right and develop some fighting spirit by playing tight, competitive one on one footy. As a young team we will still get beaten in the contests, but I'd rather see them go down fighting than running around confused, uninterested and playing soft football.

It's hidden in the article on Marchy's heart condition for some reason :

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2018-07-07/full-postmatch-blues

That's a silly statement Flyboy which exposes your prejudice!

Marc Murphy
Carlton captain (2013–)
2× John Nicholls Medal (2011, 2017)
AFLCA Champion Player of the Year (2011)
All-Australian team (2011)
AFLPA Best First Year Player Award (2006)
AFL Rising Star nominee (2006)
Larke Medal (2005)
International rules series (2008)

There would be less than a a dozen or so players in the league with a better personal record!

The game plan would work if he brought the Dawks list with him!

I'm far more impressed by coaches that work with and improve what they are given, than coaches who have a formulaic approach and renovate the environment/list to suit an existing plan!

That was MM's problem, he had one plan and needed the whole place turned on it's head to make it work! Even then it would have been a plan that all the opponents knew well, nothing innovative!

Dimma's success is a great example, his list hasn't changed much, but he changed even if it was just by getting himself and the other dud coaches out of the player's way!

Regardless of everything else, which of our players is flying the flag?

To me Daisy looks beaten down and just about finished and he was one of our best yesterday. What does that say about the rest of them?

Samo had pure joy on his face when he kicked that early goal and tried his guts out all day but isn’t impacting enough.

Weiters looks severely depressed to me. What is going on there?

 Fish is tireless in his efforts.

Is it merely the mid aged players bit providing enough? And making really stupid mistakes, that just then demoralises the side? So hard to know.

I think the problem with Weiters and SPS is that they are both slow as treacle. I think they are both struggling with the speed at which the game is played and the speed of other players from other clubs. They both get caught alot, they need to develop some trick to get them out of trouble. We have far too many slow coaches.

I think the problem with Weiters and SPS is that they are both slow as treacle. I think they are both struggling with the speed at which the game is played and the speed of other players from other clubs. They both get caught alot, they need to develop some trick to get them out of trouble. We have far too many slow coaches.

Malthouse did that and people accused him of playing favourites.

Can't have it both ways.

Malthouse did that and people accused him of playing favourites.

Can't have it both ways.

I don't disagree with anything you say there.
I'm not calling for anyone to be sacked right now. I just am starting to doubt what is going on.
We have turned over 40 odd players, and have a brand new coach who is supposedly a master at teaching the kids.
I don't have an issue with the players we have drafted, some are not up to it, but that's not something you generally know when you get them in the place, or at least hopefully not.
We have a coach who is saying all of the right things, and as far as I am concerned, teaching the boys defence first was a great move. I was all on board with that, even when plenty have been calling for a more attacking style. I think if your defence is right, you are 75% of the way there.
What I can't cop is the insipid performances. The lack of heart. The lack of effort. The lack of pride. The lack of playing like you want to be a professional player. There are a few guys in the side who play like that, unfortunately they are for the most part the ones with less than the required skill level, or the blokes coming to the end of their career.
My response was to your statement about wanting to see how Bolton goes with more players available. If yesterday's effort was repeated, it wouldn't matter which 18 guys were out there, they'd have still stunk it up.
Effort. That's what I want. Not just against this side or that, but every week.
You want to know why McKay isn't getting a run, it's because he is lazy, and doesn't give required effort. He has obviously been told to improve that part of his game, and he hasn't. The thing that mystifies me about McKay is why plenty of other guys aren't in the same position.
You want to know why Polson, SOJ and O'Shea keep getting a run? Because they try their guts out.

I for one will not, for the first time in decades, be buying my membership before May/June next year... not unless something real, something concrete happens. No more fluff, no more excuses, no more scripted responses from the media dept., no more justifications, rationalisations or corporate cliches'/spin from Juddy and co.

This year I reduced my membership to home games only and will need to see more competitiveness before increasing my commitment.

The biggest problem (apart from injuries) is that we have been trying to play a team zone defence but some of the team are unable or unwilling to work hard enough to keep the net intact.

Speed kills; lack of speed is more devastating; but unwillingness to use what speed you have is unforgivable.

I'll give you one to explain...." we will be defined by pressure"...............

Agree that pressure from last year is non existent.
I wonder if it is Teague trying to implement a different game style with a team that doesn’t have the tools.
Our list has been smashed by injury so it seems odd to open up our game plan