Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: Koutz on March 28, 2014, 08:16:27 am

A few positives to come out of last night. Buckley was fantastic for his second game, I almost certain Yarran will now become a star and we started to look more like a footy team in the second half something that I couldn't see in the port game or in the first half.

Put walker, armfield, Judd, Kruezer, Scotland, carazzo and to some extent Doherty and we are 50% better side.

Agree with this to some extent. We need more pace and Army will definitely give us this and some mongrel if nothing else. We need to weed out the imbeciles who cant kick one by one or two by two if necessary. If they haven't learnt by now they never will. It is the single most important factor that costs us the majority of our games. HS reports 36 turnovers, none more telling than Warnock to Vickory in the goal square for a gift of a goal. Add another half a dozen odd shots at goal that went out on the full? Deplorable.

Make no mistakes, we are a pretty ordinary outfit, with some patchwork players balancing out our ability to play a mix of talls and smalls, but we showed much more effort, ticker, workrate, and application than I have been able to be proud of over the last 14 years.  It wasnt about us being front runners last night either, it was simply grinding out contest after contest, and challenging and scrapping for each and every opportunity we could, and by the end of it, we had blokes getting off the leash and getting into dangerous positions, with some good ball use to get it to them.

Rowe was ordinary but he provides more flexibility than Casboult. Wouldn't mind seeing him have an extended run at it to see if he can pick up the pace of the game. I'm not confident this will happen however.

On another matter, Buckley must be half a chance for a rising star nomination?

Quote from: Rational_Expectations on March 28, 2014, 10:22:12 am

Rowe was ordinary but he provides more flexibility than Casboult. Wouldn't mind seeing him have an extended run at it to see if he can pick up the pace of the game. I'm not confident this will happen however.

On another matter, Buckley must be half a chance for a rising star nomination?

I agree about Rowe, but he was very easily out muscled on several occasions which just should not happen to a ruck in any position, Casboult is often even worse in this regard.

How can we have four or five rucks on our list who cannot us their bodies to advantage? I think the answer is our ruck coach must go, I declare our ruck coach a spud!

Buckley looked good at times, but his disposal let him down.

I walked away grinning last night.

We gave up 6 goals in the first quarter, and 4 in the second.  At half time, it felt like we were getting obliterated and then I checked the score, and all our performance indicators.  We were playing poorly, and the Tiges were all over us, yet were not putting us away the way a good team should.  I didnt feel confident at all, and felt like 2005 all over again.  For those who cant or dont remember, it was the Fev show, or no show.  At least back then we had Fev.  Now we have....

A team that stated for the second week running, that they will not just give up and fall way no matter how hard it was, or how badly they were getting beaten, or how difficult the road to goal was.  If we had gotten our noses in front the game would have ended up a win.  Unfortunately, we could only draw level.

We restricted them to 4 goals in a half after that.  That is a fantastic effort.  Make no mistakes, it wasnt that they were not good enough to kick goals, they were starved of real goal scoring opportunties, and they were struggling to get forward.  It was really encouraging I thought.  Convert our chances better, and it would have been a win.  Of the two sides, the only thing Richmond have to be happy about is beating a side that they struggle with, and getting 4 points.  Aside from that, its all doom and gloom.  Imagine going to sleep for a half against a side that is unfit, lacks a real spine of tall players, turned the ball over at will, and the only reason they managed to win was some favourable frees that got them off the hook (and a very dubious 50 metre pentalty) and our woeful conversion rate.

Make no mistakes, we are a pretty ordinary outfit, with some patchwork players balancing out our ability to play a mix of talls and smalls, but we showed much more effort, ticker, workrate, and application than I have been able to be proud of over the last 14 years.  It wasnt about us being front runners last night either, it was simply grinding out contest after contest, and challenging and scrapping for each and every opportunity we could, and by the end of it, we had blokes getting off the leash and getting into dangerous positions, with some good ball use to get it to them.

Sure there was as much to be unhappy about last night, but it was about the decisions we make, and the ball use that really hurt us, and if we tidy that up, Id say we will be a much better side moving forward, and all without some of our better performers, and without a real spine to speak of too.

PITC, yes the tiges are average but less average than us because they picked a spine and have a structure.  Astbury, Vickery and Griffiths are a long way from great players  but they did their jobs.  You still need blokes the right size in the right places and once again we went in small and paid for it - we've been pinch-hitting along the spine since the 1990's and that is why have been, are and will continue to be mediocre for the foreseeable future.

94% efficiency does not back that up.   Was good by foot and slick with his hands.   Broke the lines more times than i can remember.   Loved his game.  has the mongrel of his old man.

Quote from: age on March 28, 2014, 10:34:46 am

94% efficiency does not back that up.   Was good by foot and slick with his hands.   Broke the lines more times than i can remember.   Loved his game.  has the mongrel of his old man.

Really, you believe that stat?

The kid only had 18 possessions, 94% of 18 is 16.92.

Do you believe he only missed a target or bombed to a contest once?

I loved his game, but 94% from 18 possessions at AFL level, the kid would be on the front page as the next Gary Ablett (Jnr).