Carlton Supporters Club

He gave away 2 or 3 frees for holding plain and simple, his opponents had him bluffed. Not a defenders a-hole.
I called out Walsh immediately and will continue to.

Those frees were garbage.  He gave them away...


Let me kill that argument slightly.

Elliott engages his opponent to push off and create separation. They grab each other. Ump sees it pays a free kick. Watch every single duel and tell me that they aren't all identical.  I watched Rhys Stanley do similar to Max gawn (and arguably worse) and it was play on. 

The subjective nature here is what the problem is.  They ping Williams twice and then don't pay another free like it until mason Cox gets a bit of the same.

That equated to about 3 goals.  There was also the cripps handball paid holding the ball and then the jack crisp "drop" handball that was paid play on.

These things are a frequent occurrence, and I don't really debate the action I debate the consistency.   It's a free in our defensive 50 but you won't find a similar free for essentially the same action in our forward 50.  Why? 

The blocks that occur that take walsh off daicos and at other times cowan off Elliott.

They're not illegal.   Their blokes get on the bike and run around others who are there to hold illegally but no one cares about those holds. 

Ok Ill call a spade a spade and shoot Bambi, Walsh either fell asleep or had the wrong mindset at that stoppage. With the scores level and close to their goal, a defensive mindset had to be first and foremost. We let that happen too many times on the night, the last one was costly.

Ok Ill call a spade a spade and shoot Bambi, Walsh either fell asleep or had the wrong mindset at that stoppage. With the scores level and close to their goal, a defensive mindset had to be first and foremost. We let that happen too many times on the night, the last one was costly.

Williams coped two umpiring clangers early and fans spent the next four quarters blaming him for everything, he wasn't that bad.

Walsh left Daicos free unchecked in F50 in the critical game ending final moment, and fans are silent!

He put his arms around him, once you do that youre gone.

That's how it's umpired, paying the Elliott frees is fair enough but Harry got nothing for the same holding treatment down the other end and I think that's what's irking a few fans .

wait, wait, wait … just watched the Sunday Footy Show highlighting how they blocked Cripps at every centre bounce.

 I mean, COME ON. If that sort of treatment doesn’t warrant a rule change I don’t know what does.

So the ball is NOT in play, there’s NO actual contest yet, in some instances the location was more than 10 metres away from where the ball was about to be bounced, and the opposing player did NOT have eyes for the ball.

So if you take your eyes off the ball and look at your opponent for a split second in a marking contest it’s a free every single time.

Also an instant free for “blocking” if the player’s path to a marking contest is impeded.

Why is that treated differently?

Of course, nothing new here - has been happening for years, and not just to Cripps.  McCrae is portrayed as the good guy but I think this belies his Sheedy- or Clarkson-like approach to pushing things to the limit. He was even astute enough to make Pendlebury the blocker knowing he’s an ump favourite who has the footballing IQ to disguise the blocks.

Which brings me to Pendelbury’s last centre clearance - did he or did he not head straight for the boundary line?
Great observation from one commentator that doing that is win/win. If the ump pings him for “insufficient intent” it gives them time to set up behind the ball. If the ump is too gutless to make the call it’s a throw in just far enough away from goal.

That's how it's umpired, paying the Elliott frees is fair enough but Harry got nothing for the same holding treatment down the other end and I think that's what's irking a few fans .

I confess to being absolutely baffled when it comes to 'holding the man,' 'dropping the ball,' 'incorrect disposal' and 'holding the ball' unless blatantly obvious. Totally confused. It used to be pretty clear cut, but now it seems there are tolerable grey areas for all these which only creates further confusion in an already difficult to adjudicate game. But with these tolerated grey areas you end up with too much individual umpire interpretation. Some times you can watch one game, then another, and swear there were different rules for each! Result? Inconsistency... the continual complaint from supporters.

Just one example: There was a time where if you took possession of the aggot and tackled, and the ball was dislodged - automatic free kick against... regardless.

The AFL needs, on Monday mornings, to explain contentious frees and non-frees to educate us so we can better understand how the game is adjudicated.

Not paying the ones to Harry doesnt make the Elliot ones not there. Point is he panicked everytime the ball csme to them