Righto,
you can all continue to bask in the giddy afterglow of today's game, or you can think about next week.
Let's go.
Jamo gets Tippett, Goodes gets Gibbs if he's fit. Hendo for LRT if fit.
Kruezer could be in some doubt........
We can't stop Tippett so we must stop the supply. Also playing at ANZ is advantageous to us as it's more kicks to goal than the SCG.
Malthouse has always coached well at ANZ and the game plan works well there but did we play our Grand Final today?
In our favour the Hawks really battered the Swans and it will be interesting to see what injuries came out of today for us. We have to play two rucks and if fit McLean comes back in. Who goes out?
In hard contested footy you need harder braver players like Robinson and Duigan but skills really kill us against the good teams and the Swans will make us pay for poor disposal. No Richmond this week.
Kruezer could be in some doubt........
If Hammer was available I might concur but I seriously doubt it. He still contributed with some crucial 1%'ers.
Kruezer could be in some doubt........
If Hammer was available I might concur but I seriously doubt it. He still contributed with some crucial 1%'ers.
They were saying on the radio that he had either a foot or achillies problem that restricted him significantly in the second half
Kruezer could be in some doubt........
If Hammer was available I might concur but I seriously doubt it. He still contributed with some crucial 1%'ers.
They were saying on the radio that he had either a foot or achillies problem that restricted him significantly in the second half
Okay He went off in the first half for some treatment but seemed fine on return. I hope he's ok.
So what's the washup for the Swans and Blues?
Swans:
- McVeigh - knee injury? The Age reported that he was walking without any discomfort on Saturday.
- Bolton looked a bit proppy after a smother, but there probably isn't much to that.
- The best thing about Friday night was that the 4 guys coming back from injury (Rohan, Hanneberry, Tippett, and Jetta) had such indifferent form that the Swans may be loathe to run the same risk with Goodes and LRT.
Blues:
- Kreuzer - is the foot injury as bad as suggested by some commentators?
- Brock - on the ABC radio broadcast, there was a suggestion that he did his quad again when taking the last kick of the warm-up, while the Ch 7 commentary suggested McLean pulled out because he felt that he wasn't fully happy with how the leg was feeling. If the latter is the more accurate report, then maybe he can return, but if the former is correct then he's done.
- On the positive side, as long as Juddy pulls up okay from the game, another 6 days should see him near full fitness - when he plays the Swans, the injury will be 4 weeks in the past and the usual recovery time is about 6 weeks. Scotto got through without a hiccup, so he too should be pretty right.
I think Sydney will go in with one big man fewer than they did against the Hawks. That clearly cost them.
Casboult in for MK?
Otherwise minimal changes.
Football is suddenly much more interesting ;D
Kreuzer - is the foot injury as bad as suggested by some commentators?
Played the second half with little concern.
Looks like the ABC was right regarding Brock, though - this is what the Hun reports MM said about his late withdrawal:
Malthouse revealed post-match Duigan was only in the side after Brock McLean's thigh gave way with the last kick of the warm-up.
''Well, Nick played very well. Brock's decision was very late. It was the last kick of the warm-up and we are lucky it wasn't the first kick of the game. It was a great effort by Nick Duigan but let's not confuse ourselves, players get prepared to play. I wouldn't be disappointed if any emergency wasn't prepared to play.''
Prior to his last goal Waite was reaching for his lower back. Might be in some doubt.
Yeah I saw that about Waite. If so was a super kick to get the goal.
I reckon Kreuzer makes way for Meat.
McInnes out for? We should consider playing Laidler the way Duigan has gone! :P
So what's the washup for the Swans and Blues?
Swans:
- McVeigh - knee injury? The Age reported that he was walking without any discomfort on Saturday.
- Bolton looked a bit proppy after a smother, but there probably isn't much to that.
- The best thing about Friday night was that the 4 guys coming back from injury (Rohan, Hanneberry, Tippett, and Jetta) had such indifferent form that the Swans may be loathe to run the same risk with Goodes and LRT.
Blues:
- Kreuzer - is the foot injury as bad as suggested by some commentators?
- Brock - on the ABC radio broadcast, there was a suggestion that he did his quad again when taking the last kick of the warm-up, while the Ch 7 commentary suggested McLean pulled out because he felt that he wasn't fully happy with how the leg was feeling. If the latter is the more accurate report, then maybe he can return, but if the former is correct then he's done.
- On the positive side, as long as Juddy pulls up okay from the game, another 6 days should see him near full fitness - when he plays the Swans, the injury will be 4 weeks in the past and the usual recovery time is about 6 weeks. Scotto got through without a hiccup, so he too should be pretty right.
From what I saw Tippett was a non event - hopefully he can reproduce that form.
Goodes - hasn't played in 3 months?
That would be reckless - let's hope they bring him in.
Heard Darcy this morning completely dismiss any chance of us winning, already I feel confident of an upset!! Eddie rightly pointed out that the Swans have injury worries and that on that ground Mick has a good record and would be better for us.
Need to wait and see who is available before getting a feel for the game. Mick doesn't usually make a lot of changes once he has a settled side.
Heard Darcy this morning completely dismiss any chance of us winning, already I feel confident of an upset!! Eddie rightly pointed out that the Swans have injury worries and that on that ground Mick has a good record and would be better for us.
Need to wait and see who is available before getting a feel for the game. Mick doesn't usually make a lot of changes once he has a settled side.
D'Arsey is not exactly in the brain surgeon category fortunately so his opinion is worth Jack. I would have like Eddie to bag MM to really fire him up - but I guess Eddie's a bit too cagey for that, besides he may be looking to poach him for 2014. ;D
Please keep writing us off Darcy. You're a clueless turd. We are a massive chance to take this out and we owe them payback for 2010.
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/football/injury-list (http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/football/injury-list)
Goodes last played in late June....c''mon, roll the dice Horse.
Some big outs all the same - Shaw, Reid, LRt.....
Apparently the talk is Goodes has been training fairly hard the last 3 or 4 weeks and the aim is to use him as sub.
We know what this bloke is capable of he only needs a quarter.
Apparently the talk is Goodes has been training fairly hard the last 3 or 4 weeks and the aim is to use him as sub.
We know what this bloke is capable of he only needs a quarter.
I would welcome this move and its a masive risk for the swans. Then again if they are short a number of players you could do a lot worse than to bring him into the side.
Apparently the talk is Goodes has been training fairly hard the last 3 or 4 weeks and the aim is to use him as sub.
We know what this bloke is capable of he only needs a quarter.
Meh, I'm not worried. They tried the same with Jetta and he was ineffective.
The fact that will be underdogs for the rest of the season suits us down to the ground. We can play with no pressure going in to every game, starting last week and continuing this week!! ;)
Doesn't matter who plays for the swannies, they all go in hard and all know their roles. They all play selflessly and this is where we have to match them. We can't rely on our fab 4 to do it on their own.
Need bigger games from the Touhy's and Armfeild types.
We're more than capable.
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/football/injury-list (http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/football/injury-list)
Goodes last played in late June....c''mon, roll the dice Horse.
Some big outs all the same - Shaw, Reid, LRt.....
I'm sure the tigers were saying the same thing about us and Judd. Great players (and I know some don't rate Goodes) have a knack of coming back and having a huge game.
Doesn't matter who plays for the swannies, they all go in hard and all know their roles. They all play selflessly and this is where we have to match them. We can't rely on our fab 4 to do it on their own.
Need bigger games from the Touhy's and Armfeild types.
We're more than capable.
Touhy will play a big game this Saturday night. Watch him tear them apart! >:D
(Ok, maybe not tear them apart, but he will lift massively IMO)
We have to pace ourselves carefully v. the Swans. If we drop off too much at any time they will certainly punish us - they are a lot more deadly than the Tigers for sure.
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/football/injury-list (http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/football/injury-list)
Goodes last played in late June....c''mon, roll the dice Horse.
Some big outs all the same - Shaw, Reid, LRt.....
I'm sure the tigers were saying the same thing about us and Judd. Great players (and I know some don't rate Goodes) have a knack of coming back and having a huge game.
Aye, noted but Judd had missed 2 weeks, Goodes has now missed more than 2 months of footy.
It seems he last played in Rd 13.
If they bring back LRT too - with the ins last week, a third of their team will be very underdone......
All I'm saying is it could work in our favour....
I reckon we're in a rich vein of form and most of our players have played 5 finals now. They've lost by less than a goal on three of those occasions. They know what it's like to just lose a final and I'm pretty sure they're not interested in tatsing that type of defeat again. I think we're better than 50/50 TBH.
We can win, but if we do it won't be the same way we did against the Tigs.
There's no way on gods green earth the Swans will let Judd and then Gibbs get of the chain.
Watched the replay today and could not believe how much width our guys were given after half time.
We must stick with the Swans.
Also, it looked to me as though (first half only, missed the second) the Hawks didn't have as many men at the contest v the Swans. They appeared to let the Swans get sucked into the contest and the Hawks left a few guys outside it for clean possession and if the Swans did get it they were waiting to ambush the ball receiver.
Not a bad idea.
We've got a 50/50 chance I reckon.
The Swannies got belted by Hawthorn which never does any team any good and they've got a few missing, if McLean comes up we're just about full strength apart from Carratts but Curnow is doing the job in his absence, our rucks are going well and our midfield is in form.
McLean for McInnes/Menzel looks likely.
We're in with a big show I think - we just can't let the Swans off the lease as much as we have with Port and the Tigers though - they would prove a lot harder to reel in IMHO. If we stay focussed for 4Q we can do it.
We've got a 50/50 chance I reckon.
The Swannies got belted by Hawthorn which never does any team any good and they've got a few missing, if McLean comes up we're just about full strength apart from Carratts but Curnow is doing the job in his absence, our rucks are going well and our midfield is in form.
McLean for McInnes/Menzel looks likely.
Would have to be Menzel. McInnes although not doing great will be required to cover one of 4 or 5 Syd talls in defense.
We'll be too short without him.
Is there any legitimate replacement for McInnes? Considering the success of Duigan you'd just about consider playing Laids. Otherwise who?
Is there any legitimate replacement for McInnes? Considering the success of Duigan you'd just about consider playing Laids. Otherwise who?
The only other one is Bootsma really.
None of the other options have played in the top side.
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/football/injury-list (http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/football/injury-list)
Goodes last played in late June....c''mon, roll the dice Horse.
Some big outs all the same - Shaw, Reid, LRt.....
I'm sure the tigers were saying the same thing about us and Judd. Great players (and I know some don't rate Goodes) have a knack of coming back and having a huge game.
Aye, noted but Judd had missed 2 weeks, Goodes has now missed more than 2 months of footy.
It seems he last played in Rd 13.
If they bring back LRT too - with the ins last week, a third of their team will be very underdone......
All I'm saying is it could work in our favour....
I would rather Goodes as sub than starting.
Judd showed he needed time to get a feel for the game after being out for what 3 weeks? so I would imagine Goodes would struggle to come off the bench and have a huge impact straight off the bat... Having said that, \we all know he is all class and nothing would surprise me.
Win or lose on Saturday night, if we'd been told we'd make the 1st semi at season's start, we'd probably have taken that!
For me the most important thing that's happening is that so many of our younger lads are getting at least 2 weeks of finals experience - invaluable. And so important for us to see who really stands up under finals pressure - this will help the 'who goes and who stays' come trading time.
Win or lose on Saturday night, if we'd been told we'd make the 1st semi at season's start, we'd probably have taken that!
For me the most important thing that's happening is that so many of our younger lads are getting at least 2 weeks of finals experience - invaluable. And so important for us to see who really stands up under finals pressure - this will help the 'who goes and who stays' come trading time.
Spot on Baggerino old chum. Invaluable experience for Bell, Curnow and Menzel. Really impressed with Curnow's second half of the season, got to hand it to the old man Malthouse, he's turned Curnow into a very good player.
For me the most important thing that's happening is that so many of our younger lads are getting at least 2 weeks of finals experience - invaluable. And so important for us to see who really stands up under finals pressure - this will help the 'who goes and who stays' come trading time.
Can not agree more Baggers. And more importantly they will get a thorough understanding from Mick as to what is expected in the coming months and prep for 2014 finals (yes I expect finals next year without any hand up from dumb coaches). As much as I'm no Mick fan he does understand finals footy.
We've got a 50/50 chance I reckon.
The Swannies got belted by Hawthorn which never does any team any good and they've got a few missing, if McLean comes up we're just about full strength apart from Carratts but Curnow is doing the job in his absence, our rucks are going well and our midfield is in form.
McLean for McInnes/Menzel looks likely.
Would have to be Menzel. McInnes although not doing great will be required to cover one of 4 or 5 Syd talls in defense.
We'll be too short without him.
We'll win or lose it in the middle, Menzel might give us a bit more flexibility than McInnes.
You're probably right though, Menzel will probably miss out.
What about Brock is he any chance?
Statistics and history always suggest the top 4 teams play in a Prelim. They are usually the better teams over the course of the year for a reason and the closest any team has come outside the 4 is us 2 years ago.
I reckon we are a massive chance as swans are struggling but they wont let us back in if we give them a sniff, and we have shown all year, we let teams either back in or get ahead at various stages.
Enjoy the ride, no expectations, hope we show the heart and character that was on display yesterday.
Don't want to get ahead of myself but I don't think we've seen our best for 4Q by any means so far this year. If we can improve it out to 3.5Q or more v. the Swans we are starting to be a chance.
Just play ugly, negative and scrag for the rest of the time.
What about Brock is he any chance?
I still reckon that "he felt a twang in the warm up" is bollocks.
I don't reckon there was any risk Duigan would be left out, he's a defender/defensive forward. If they were fair dinkum they would have brought in a mid to replace Brock.
and I dont expect Brock to play this week.
Yeah Ellard would have been the like for like...
fair play to Brock if he felt he wasnt right.
Is there any legitimate replacement for McInnes? Considering the success of Duigan you'd just about consider playing Laids. Otherwise who?
I like your thinking Karroto. It would just add to this fairytale that is currently underway. Somehow though I doubt very much it's going to happen.
Really impressed with Curnow's second half of the season, got to hand it to the old man Malthouse, he's turned Curnow into a very good player.
One of the great stories of the year. Curnow has gone from a fringe player to one of the first picked and gets a tough job every week.
Really impressed with Curnow's second half of the season, got to hand it to the old man Malthouse, he's turned Curnow into a very good player.
One of the great stories of the year. Curnow has gone from a fringe player to one of the first picked and gets a tough job every week.
He does and he has been getting the job done too. Helps Judd, Gibbs and Murphy, so they can do what they do best.
What about Brock is he any chance?
I still reckon that "he felt a twang in the warm up" is bollocks.
I don't reckon there was any risk Duigan would be left out, he's a defender/defensive forward. If they were fair dinkum they would have brought in a mid to replace Brock.
and I dont expect Brock to play this week.
Tend to agree.
We've got a shot at it but must be at our very best!
Darcy - he must have photos of someone - never did anything playing and doesn't do much except look at himself on the monitor whilst licking BT's balls....wanker!
C'mon Blues, we can do this!
What about Brock is he any chance?
I still reckon that "he felt a twang in the warm up" is bollocks.
I don't reckon there was any risk Duigan would be left out, he's a defender/defensive forward. If they were fair dinkum they would have brought in a mid to replace Brock.
and I dont expect Brock to play this week.
Tend to agree.
I was on level P all lathered up watching brock warm up and he was running and kicking beautifully.
Reckon they were just joshing the opposition and giving him the weeks rest.
I have admired the Swans work ethic for sometime, but they are starting to tire.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-field-marshal-explores-how-sydney-has-become-very-un-sydney-ahead-of-the-semi-final/story-fni5f5nx-1226715380672
Good article, explaining where they are falling down.
Someone mentioned it already Hawks game plan made sense let them get sucked in to the contest then beat them around the outside with uncontested possession… Perfect blue print for what we have to do on the big open ground.
Mick has an amazing record against these blokes.
Someone mentioned it already Hawks game plan made sense let them get sucked in to the contest then beat them around the outside with uncontested possession… Perfect blue print for what we have to do on the big open ground.
Mick has an amazing record against these blokes.
Sounds like a plan - if we get too many of our guys sucked into the contested ball sh1tfights we would be playing straight into their hands. I would even be looking to play Juddy goal side of the clearances and contested ball situations.
Someone mentioned it already Hawks game plan made sense let them get sucked in to the contest then beat them around the outside with uncontested possession… Perfect blue print for what we have to do on the big open ground.
Mick has an amazing record against these blokes.
Sounds like a plan - if we get too many of our guys sucked into the contested ball sh1tfights we would be playing straight into their hands. I would even be looking to play Juddy goal side of the clearances and contested ball situations.
Bell, Gibbs and Robinson need to shoulder more and more of this work load.
Judd should do it only when necessary.
'NO LIMITS' to 'THE PROCESS', I 'BELIEVE' ;D ;D ;D
The fact that they re even entertaining bringing back a guy who hasn't played for 3 months shows that the Swans are getting desperate.
The open spaces of ANZ will suit us better then that other toy ground (SCG)
No pressure on us again, as the Swans are expected to dispatch of us quite easily.
Its great being in the Finals and having a Coach we know LIVES for Finals footy.
This is what we got MM for, and he's so far delivered BIG TIME!
The fact that they re even entertaining bringing back a guy who hasn't played for 3 months shows that the Swans are getting desperate.
The open spaces of ANZ will suit us better then that other toy ground (SCG)
No pressure on us again, as the Swans are expected to dispatch of us quite easily.
Its great being in the Finals and having a Coach we know LIVES for Finals footy.
This is what we got MM for, and he's so far delivered BIG TIME!
Easy there D7, he hasn't delivered anything yet, he didn't even get us into the finals. But I do see a difference in the past 2 weeks.
The fact that they re even entertaining bringing back a guy who hasn't played for 3 months shows that the Swans are getting desperate.
The open spaces of ANZ will suit us better then that other toy ground (SCG)
No pressure on us again, as the Swans are expected to dispatch of us quite easily.
Its great being in the Finals and having a Coach we know LIVES for Finals footy.
This is what we got MM for, and he's so far delivered BIG TIME!
Easy there D7, he hasn't delivered anything yet, he didn't even get us into the finals. But I do see a difference in the past 2 weeks.
Wouldn't have mided being a fly on the wall in the change rooms to see MM's half time sprays given to the boys.
The fact that they re even entertaining bringing back a guy who hasn't played for 3 months shows that the Swans are getting desperate.
The open spaces of ANZ will suit us better then that other toy ground (SCG)
No pressure on us again, as the Swans are expected to dispatch of us quite easily.
Its great being in the Finals and having a Coach we know LIVES for Finals footy.
This is what we got MM for, and he's so far delivered BIG TIME!
Easy there D7, he hasn't delivered anything yet, he didn't even get us into the finals. But I do see a difference in the past 2 weeks.
Wouldn't have mided being a fly on the wall in the change rooms to see MM's half time sprays given to the boys.
Aye, Mick had had a very poor season imo.
Pure dumb luck (Jimmy Hird's folly) that we are in the 8.
Tigers were always on a hiding to nothing with all the hype.
MM has made some massive selection blunders this year eg Bootsma, White and giving all but no game time (to grab a chance) to Laidler and Duigan.
Heck, but for White's tragic injury he'd probably still be in the 22!
Have even seen some poor match day stuff - playing Waite down back all day agst. the Bummers (from memory) ditto Gibbs.
Losing Yarran when the lad clearly (at this stage) has a lot more to offer running at the ball off HB and carrying it into out attacking half.
I've seen no solution to our persistent very poor starts to matches?
Sydney will be MM's test (and moreover, maybe Freo the week after).
The fact that they re even entertaining bringing back a guy who hasn't played for 3 months shows that the Swans are getting desperate.
The open spaces of ANZ will suit us better then that other toy ground (SCG)
No pressure on us again, as the Swans are expected to dispatch of us quite easily.
Its great being in the Finals and having a Coach we know LIVES for Finals footy.
This is what we got MM for, and he's so far delivered BIG TIME!
Easy there D7, he hasn't delivered anything yet, he didn't even get us into the finals. But I do see a difference in the past 2 weeks.
Wouldn't have mided being a fly on the wall in the change rooms to see MM's half time sprays given to the boys.
Aye, Mick had had a very poor season imo.
Pure dumb luck (Jimmy Hird's folly) that we are in the 8.
Tigers were always on a hiding to nothing with all the hype.
MM has made some massive selection blunders this year eg Bootsma, White and giving all but no game time (to grab a chance) to Laidler and Duigan.
Heck, but for White's tragic injury he'd probably still be in the 22!
Have even seen some poor match day stuff - playing Waite down back all day agst. the Bummers (from memory) ditto Gibbs.
Losing Yarran when the lad clearly (at this stage) has a lot more to offer running at the ball off HB and carrying it into out attacking half.
I've seen no solution to our persistent very poor starts to matches?
Sydney will be MM's test (and moreover, maybe Freo the week after).
Dumb luck would have seen us win a couple more during the year, so I dont think we can agree that we have been lucky.
We have been poor though, yet somehow we have still ended up finishing as well as we have since Dennis Pagan took over. If we can somehow get over Sydney, it will be our best end of year result since 1999 in what we all consider to have been a poor season.
I cant wait till we see a good season, and have a theory that next year will be one for us. It will all come up in the wash I guess.
I have admired the Swans work ethic for sometime, but they are starting to tire.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-field-marshal-explores-how-sydney-has-become-very-un-sydney-ahead-of-the-semi-final/story-fni5f5nx-1226715380672
Good article, explaining where they are falling down.
Damn! These sorts of articles always seem to fire up an opponent of ours. Sydney are being questioned, and I have no doubt that they will give this one almighty push to get across the line. This WILL be their grand final and they will leave nothing left trying to get the win. My concern, is that we might have played our grand final on sunday and might flatline ourselves if we are not careful. A few of our boys are a bit bruised and battered and may have used the last they had to give on sunday.
More worried about our outs this week;
I am hearing rumors three(3) from Sunday's game are very unlikely to start given the short week and interstate trip, and they would have been in doubt on a normal week anyway!
More worried about our outs this week;
I am hearing rumors three(3) from Sunday's game are very unlikely to start given the short week and interstate trip, and they would have been in doubt on a normal week anyway!
yeah, got a message from a friend that reckons Kruezer is a definite out, but not sure of his source.
Who are t he rumoured outs ?
I have admired the Swans work ethic for sometime, but they are starting to tire.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-field-marshal-explores-how-sydney-has-become-very-un-sydney-ahead-of-the-semi-final/story-fni5f5nx-1226715380672
Good article, explaining where they are falling down.
Damn! These sorts of articles always seem to fire up an opponent of ours. Sydney are being questioned, and I have no doubt that they will give this one almighty push to get across the line. This WILL be their grand final and they will leave nothing left trying to get the win. My concern, is that we might have played our grand final on sunday and might flatline ourselves if we are not careful. A few of our boys are a bit bruised and battered and may have used the last they had to give on sunday.
Sydney gave up on Friday night, there's no other way to explain it. I think they're ripe for the picking TBH and our boys know, if we're within 5-6 goals we can come home hard.
Who are t he rumoured outs ?
Judd looked extremely proppy walking into Visy yesterday. Kreuzer will miss I reckon, he was limping badly.
I have admired the Swans work ethic for sometime, but they are starting to tire.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-field-marshal-explores-how-sydney-has-become-very-un-sydney-ahead-of-the-semi-final/story-fni5f5nx-1226715380672
Good article, explaining where they are falling down.
Damn! These sorts of articles always seem to fire up an opponent of ours. Sydney are being questioned, and I have no doubt that they will give this one almighty push to get across the line. This WILL be their grand final and they will leave nothing left trying to get the win. My concern, is that we might have played our grand final on sunday and might flatline ourselves if we are not careful. A few of our boys are a bit bruised and battered and may have used the last they had to give on sunday.
Sydney gave up on Friday night, there's no other way to explain it. I think they're ripe for the picking TBH and our boys know, if we're within 5-6 goals we can come home hard.
Was it self preservation though knowing that they have another week?
In any case, Im expecting us to fizzle out with a fairly nothing game this week unless our lesser lights can really stand up.
Particularly if Waite (you and I both saw him grab for the back prior to his last goal which was the last time he was able to get up off the ground and jump for a mark) Judd (looked proppy even though he had a blinder 3rd quarter) and Kreuzer (hurt his leg early and didnt run well from then onwards) dont come up.
At least we will have Casboult in though. He will definately give us a lot, but Im not sure if Sydney is a good matchup for him.
Self preservation is not the Sydney way though, I would hope that's what it was because it would certainly highlight a few cracks that are beginning to appear.
Judd will get up, Kruuzer should get up, it is only an ankle but Waite is a big maybe and will be a big loss. He tackled well, kicked straight and marked well. If Meat comes in, I hope they leave him forward in the goals.
Self preservation is not the Sydney way though, I would hope that's what it was because it would certainly highlight a few cracks that are beginning to appear.
Is it just me or does anyone else see a lot of similarities between Sydney's 2013 Premiership defence and ours back in 1996? Both teams were considered monties to go back to back at various stages only to really stumble at the business end of the season. We went out in straight sets that year after getting smashed by West Coast (55 points) then Brisbane (97 points).
Really hoping for a repeat in reverse this year, though I'm hating all of the media saying that we're a chance. I much preferred it last week when no one at all had anything positive to say about us lol.
Either way, who thought we'd still be talking in pre game threads at this stage of the season? A month ago, we'd all written 2013 off and were calling for the sacking of half the list!
I see similarities with our 99 finals campaign. Not a snow flakes chance in hell of doing anyhting, but somehow find form and do some damage >:D
I see similarities with our 99 finals campaign. Not a snow flakes chance in hell of doing anyhting, but somehow find form and do some damage >:D
If we can't win the Premiership I'd settle for denying it to the Hawks. >:D
I see similarities with our 99 finals campaign. Not a snow flakes chance in hell of doing anyhting, but somehow find form and do some damage >:D
If we can't win the Premiership I'd settle for denying it to the Hawks. >:D
Lol the only way we can do that directly this year is by winning the Premiership ourselves :P.
We can't possibly play them before the Grand Final, and there's a lot of footy to go before that point!
Even if we somehow manage to get over Sydney, we'd have to travel to Freo the next week!
I think this weeks INS should be Casboult and McLean (if fit). OUTS McInnes and Bell (not that I think Bell played poorly).
With Sydney's tall forward structure it might be necessary to play all of Waite, Hendo and Jamo down back this week. So Casboult to come in to play forward. McLean to replace Bell.
What could work:
B: Simpson Jamison Walker
HB: Tuohy Hendo Waite
C: Gibbs Judd Scotland
HF: Menzel Casboult Duigan
F: Betts Kreuzer Garlett
R: Warnock Murphy McLean
INT: Robinson Curnow Armfield Yarran
Bit kinder weather than last time up there!!
Saturday 14 September
Summary Min 13 Max 23
Morning shower or two.
Sydney area
Partly cloudy. Isolated showers during the morning. Light winds becoming northeasterly 15 to 20 km/h during the day.
Who are t he rumoured outs ?
Judd looked extremely proppy walking into Visy yesterday. Kreuzer will miss I reckon, he was limping badly.
Kreuzer apparently had a toe op yesterday according to people on BF
Lol the only way we can do that directly this year is by winning the Premiership ourselves :P.
Even better then! ;D
Who are t he rumoured outs ?
Judd looked extremely proppy walking into Visy yesterday. Kreuzer will miss I reckon, he was limping badly.
Kreuzer apparently had a toe op yesterday according to people on BF
Nooooooooo!
Either way, who thought we'd still be talking in pre game threads at this stage of the season? A month ago, we'd all written 2013 off and were calling for the sacking of half the list!
Spot on just happy to be there though on that note, I guess our list aint as bad as some would've had you believe?
I think this weeks INS should be Casboult and McLean (if fit). OUTS McInnes and Bell (not that I think Bell played poorly).
With Sydney's tall forward structure it might be necessary to play all of Waite, Hendo and Jamo down back this week. So Casboult to come in to play forward. McLean to replace Bell.
What could work:
B: Simpson Jamison Walker
HB: Tuohy Hendo Waite
C: Gibbs Judd Scotland
HF: Menzel Casboult Duigan
F: Betts Kreuzer Garlett
R: Warnock Murphy McLean
INT: Robinson Curnow Armfield Yarran
We will only be making injury related changes.
The more I think about it bringing in Goodes could be a good thing hasn’t played since round 13 so therefore you assume he is the sub and as Roos mentioned last night it means Jetta plays a full game he was the sub last week after a very long lay off.. Throw in the fact that they have played Hawks twice and Geelong once pretty taxing period. My confidence is growing but maybe because im going and im trying to justify it.
I notice mentions of Waite also.. May be just me but if you watch the end when we win and Hendo runs to him and jumps at him if you see Waite's reactions its like get of me my back.
Either way, who thought we'd still be talking in pre game threads at this stage of the season? A month ago, we'd all written 2013 off and were calling for the sacking of half the list!
Spot on just happy to be there though on that note, I guess our list aint as bad as some would've had you believe?
Bad? No. Pea hearted, better description but not quite right given the way they can play at times. Definately lacking in a few areas to really challenge, but good enough to cover up for it in enough places to do some damage when we are on song but our opposition isnt.
You know how you know we are not ready and not quite there? Of the teams remaining, unless the moons allign for us and they have an off day, which ones could we beat unless we bring our A game for 4 quarters?
The answer is that if they are all having a good day at the office, even our best footy might not be good enough to win against any of them bar Port Adelaide. That tells the entire story of where we currently sit. Our list isnt bad, but its not premiership worthy.
I reckon without injuries we have the talent to go all the way, not from 9th, but with a double chance for sure.
Thats the trouble. The moons have to allign. Hawthorn have been able to drop Buddy, Cyril and got knows who else across the journey (Hodge I think), Sewell at various stages, yet they sew up the minor premiership, the double chance, and then get through without them anyway.
Freo have had players in and out of the side all season yet look where they currently are?
Even the Swans. They have gone over the edge the last month, but they could still keep up with the Hawks for half a game, and made them earn the win in the final quarter only a week prior.
For us, Carrazzo out, an injury to Waite, Murphy not firing on all cylinders, and a few drop their heads and all of a sudden we are finishing 9th and sneaking into the finals on the back of somebody elses getting kicked out.
Spot on, we lack true depth and a little belief, the latter is slowly starting to come though by the looks of things.
Spot on, we lack true depth and a little belief, the latter is slowly starting to come though by the looks of things.
And a good off season could put a big dent in the lack of depth issue too !! :)
So what's the washup for the Swans and Blues?
Swans:
McVeigh - knee injury? The Age reported that he was walking without any discomfort on Saturday.
Bolton looked a bit proppy after a smother, but there probably isn't much to that.
The best thing about Friday night was that the 4 guys coming back from injury (Rohan, Hanneberry, Tippett, and Jetta) had such indifferent form that the Swans may be loathe to run the same risk with Goodes and LRT.
They're rolling the dice are the Swannies - reeks of panic and may well back fire......
Latest odds:
Sydney 1.37
Blues 3.15
ouch.
I'm sure the AFL will be hoping we are gone this week! Despite last week's huge crowd, the more we linger around the more the EFC scandal remains in the news! ;D
I'm sure the AFL will be hoping we are gone this week! Despite last week's huge crowd, the more we linger around the more the EFC scandal remains in the news! ;D
let's disappoint the AFL some more! We owe them plenty!
I'm sure the AFL will be hoping we are gone this week! Despite last week's huge crowd, the more we linger around the more the EFC scandal remains in the news! ;D
let's disappoint the AFL some more! We owe them plenty!
Just on that, it's pretty unprofessional of AD to mention loss of revenue, because Collingwood and Richmond lost in the first round of the finals. Why would he even bring that up? Is it an issue? Should there be an effort to keep them in the finals next year, so the AFL can increase revenue? I thought he just took a trip to the States to look at equalisation? What a dumb c!#$
Mclean declares himself fit to go! Important inclusion IMO.
I'm sure the AFL will be hoping we are gone this week! Despite last week's huge crowd, the more we linger around the more the EFC scandal remains in the news! ;D
let's disappoint the AFL some more! We owe them plenty!
Just on that, it's pretty unprofessional of AD to mention loss of revenue, because Collingwood and Richmond lost in the first round of the finals. Why would he even bring that up? Is it an issue? Should there be an effort to keep them in the finals next year, so the AFL can increase revenue? I thought he just took a trip to the States to look at equalisation? What a dumb c!#$
Was this the statement in response to the question about whether the results would cost the AFL revenue?
I'm pumped!!!
I'm sure the AFL will be hoping we are gone this week! Despite last week's huge crowd, the more we linger around the more the EFC scandal remains in the news! ;D
let's disappoint the AFL some more! We owe them plenty!
Just on that, it's pretty unprofessional of AD to mention loss of revenue, because Collingwood and Richmond lost in the first round of the finals. Why would he even bring that up? Is it an issue? Should there be an effort to keep them in the finals next year, so the AFL can increase revenue? I thought he just took a trip to the States to look at equalisation? What a dumb c!#$
Was this the statement in response to the question about whether the results would cost the AFL revenue?
A Prelim is being played in Perth, which only holds 40k compared to the MCG, so that is a knock on affect. And from a business perspective having Collingwood and Richmond out affects things dramatically, no denying that.
Following on you have your other Big Club Carlton playing in Sydney then maybe Perth, then you don't need a CPA to see that this is not a great financial Outcome having Port play in Melbourne.
Makes you wonder about the neutrality of the draw and other external factors in determining the financial outcome for the AFL though.
Mclean declares himself fit to go! Important inclusion IMO.
Actually, he tends to struggle a bit versus Sydney.
Not sure why, must be something to do with the congestion Sydney create.
I'm sure the AFL will be hoping we are gone this week! Despite last week's huge crowd, the more we linger around the more the EFC scandal remains in the news! ;D
let's disappoint the AFL some more! We owe them plenty!
Just on that, it's pretty unprofessional of AD to mention loss of revenue, because Collingwood and Richmond lost in the first round of the finals. Why would he even bring that up? Is it an issue? Should there be an effort to keep them in the finals next year, so the AFL can increase revenue? I thought he just took a trip to the States to look at equalisation? What a dumb c!#$
I dont see how they lost all that money really. Granted, Collingwood not winning is probably the one that did them the damage, as status quo remains for us/Tigers vs Sydney. The other games at Patterson and The G would have happened regardless, so that has to be the only result, and makes you think that the Pies get an armchair ride for a reason (they get the benefit of the doubt with many umpiring calls usually).
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/matthew-kreuzer-in-doubt-for-semifinal-20130911-2tjsu.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/matthew-kreuzer-in-doubt-for-semifinal-20130911-2tjsu.html)
I'm sure the AFL will be hoping we are gone this week! Despite last week's huge crowd, the more we linger around the more the EFC scandal remains in the news! ;D
let's disappoint the AFL some more! We owe them plenty!
Just on that, it's pretty unprofessional of AD to mention loss of revenue, because Collingwood and Richmond lost in the first round of the finals. Why would he even bring that up? Is it an issue? Should there be an effort to keep them in the finals next year, so the AFL can increase revenue? I thought he just took a trip to the States to look at equalisation? What a dumb c!#$
In fairness to AD on that one, he did say that the results were great for football. The loss of revenue is a reality, two of the biggest memberships in the game got booted out, but he acknowledged that getting some passion back about football in general was more important after the year the AFL has had.
Mclean declares himself fit to go! Important inclusion IMO.
Actually, he tends to struggle a bit versus Sydney.
Not sure why, must be something to do with the congestion Sydney create.
He has struggled for the majority of his Carlton career though. I'm happy to have him back we need another strong body to go to war with the Swans.
Mclean declares himself fit to go! Important inclusion IMO.
Actually, he tends to struggle a bit versus Sydney.
Not sure why, must be something to do with the congestion Sydney create.
He has struggled for the majority of his Carlton career though. I'm happy to have him back we need another strong body to go to war with the Swans.
I agree, who goes out though ?...not Duigan now surely.....Army had a poor game last start, but we can't afford to lose his pace....Bell ? not for me. So who's in the firing line ?
(I have no answer BTW !!!)
:)
cheers
Mal.
Menzel.
Menzel.
fair call......who starts with the jacket on ? McLeans probably not really an "impact" player.
Menzel.
fair call......who starts with the jacket on ? McLeans probably not really an "impact" player.
Dare I say it, Chris Yarran?
Where is that old smiley of the little face darting behind the wall when you need it....
Menzel.
fair call......who starts with the jacket on ? McLeans probably not really an "impact" player.
Armfield on recent form might make an ideal sub, but we may not need to decide.
McLean and others are the least of our problems, I am still hearing three outs this week!
Menzel.
fair call......who starts with the jacket on ? McLeans probably not really an "impact" player.
Dare I say it, Chris Yarran?
Where is that old smiley of the little face darting behind the wall when you need it....
SFFFFFFFFFFFFF ........(sound of sucking air in between grimaced teeth)....you said it.....I'm saying nothing.
I would prefer to keep Menzel in over Bell especially if we lose Kreuzer from the forward line. Bell and McLean are more like for like players.
Agree that Yarran should be the sub.
He has struggled for the majority of his Carlton career though. I'm happy to have him back we need another strong body to go to war with the Swans.
He is relatively poor against the Swans and Geelong compared to Hawthorn or Freo, but it will just be a match up issue or the way those teams structure up. Perhaps the Swans pay him a bit more respect than Hawthorn or Freo.
I do not want to start this debate all over again but I do not agree that McLean struggled, in my opinion that is a cop out for the poor selection by the MC during Ratten's period. A player is not struggling in the VFL when sports commentators and bookmakers have them listed as a favorite for the Liston Trophy, and McLean was right at the top of the odds two years running before he got a regular senior game. Even then the spud MC tried to run him off the bench as a sub, effectively removing the only natural advantages he had which are strength and endurance.
McLean's past situation is not unlike Duigan's current situation, no rhyme or reason for it, you just don't fit into the coaches plans! That doesn't make you a spud footballer!
I wouldn't be surprised that our MC run Duigan as a sub, and I say what would be the point? Duigan's biggest value to the team is being out there bashing and crashing taking the strength and energy out of opponents like Robbo, adding some chaos! If anything Duigan should start a game with the instruction to hit packs and stoppages hard early with the intention to be sub'd by a racehorse towards the end.
It is like the current rumors that Kreuzer is out and Hampson may be in, what the feck happened to Casboult? MM talked Hampson up to the media then claimed he woul dbe a big risk, I will be stuffed if you can bring in a tall player who hasn't played for eight / nine weeks. (They must be taking the piss out of Sydney over that Adam Goodes rumor!) But I fear if it is true those rumors about three Carlton injuries might be on the money, two of them are talls and the other a medium, all are marking targets!
McLean struggled when he played senior football, no doubting that. His form in the magoos is a moot point as he failed to back it up in the seniors time and time again.
McLean struggled when he played senior football, no doubting that. His form in the maggos is a moot point as he failed to back it up in the seniors time and time again.
I suppose if you write it enough you believe it.
In those years he allegedly struggled statistically he bettered 18/19 other players on our list. Not too bad for a washed up spud, of those 18/19 the following currently listed players;
2010; Ellard, Robinson, White, Henderson, Yarran, Warnock, Lucas, Armfield, Hampson, Joseph, Jamison and Davies.
2011; Laidler, Kreuzer, Lucas, Jamison, Joseph, Henderson, Hampson, Armfield Watson, Collins, Tuohy, White, Davies and O'Keefe
Lets not forget some like Casboult and Cachia who are not even named because despite being on the list they could not get a single game!
After 2011, McLean only got better!
As LP mentioned and it’s a valid question what has happened to Levi???????
Menzel.
fair call......who starts with the jacket on ? McLeans probably not really an "impact" player.
Armfield on recent form might make an ideal sub, but we may not need to decide.
McLean and others are the least of our problems, I am still hearing three outs this week!
I reckon Army needs a big job here. His speed and tackling is suited to playing the Swans.
As LP mentioned and it’s a valid question what has happened to Levi???????
My informer tells me he trained, so not injured.
I have no fecking idea what to believe, clubs do funny crap this time of year. I remember Robert Walls telling a story that a coach had crutches delivered to a player the night before training and told him to roll up to the mid-week training on crutches and be sure to hobble right past the media. Miracle of miracles the bloke played after the media claimed all week he would not recover!
Menzel.
fair call......who starts with the jacket on ? McLeans probably not really an "impact" player.
Two separate coaches have not heeded this warning...
Menzel.
fair call......who starts with the jacket on ? McLeans probably not really an "impact" player.
Armfield on recent form might make an ideal sub, but we may not need to decide.
McLean and others are the least of our problems, I am still hearing three outs this week!
I reckon Army needs a big job here. His speed and tackling is suited to playing the Swans.
Hannebery for Army
Yaz for Jetta
Duigan for McVeigh or Malceski
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/matthew-kreuzer-in-doubt-for-semifinal-20130911-2tjsu.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/matthew-kreuzer-in-doubt-for-semifinal-20130911-2tjsu.html)
After Kreuser last week returned 4 disposals, 4 tackles, no marks and no score at all,how much worse off would we be with The Bolt in???
I can actually see some positives in the move at this stage.
Are the potential 3 outs? Kreuser and 2 more?
Blues hopeful Kreuzer will face Swans
Mick Malthouse is "extremely hopeful" Matthew Kreuzer will be fit to play in Saturday night's semi-final clash with the Sydney Swans as the ruckman battles a calf injury.
Kreuzer wasn't spotted when Carlton hit the track on Wednesday morning, but Malthouse said the 24-year-old had trained in "some capacity" as his workload was managed through the week.
The ruckman suffered the injury to his right calf in the first quarter of Sunday's comeback win over Richmond, and although his day appeared over, he played out the game.
Malthouse was optimistic Kreuzer would face the Swans at ANZ Stadium.
Mirrors, smoke....?
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2013-09-11/blues-hopeful-kreuzer-will-face-swans?camefrom=EMCL_133952_7489779 (http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2013-09-11/blues-hopeful-kreuzer-will-face-swans?camefrom=EMCL_133952_7489779)
INS...... Levi, Brock
OUTS..... Kruz, Menzel
Brock gives us another big bodied midfielder in the rotation which we need.
Kruz is not right, Levi can give 206 a rest and provide a legitimate forward target.
If Duigan plays forward he takes Menzels role. Eddie and Jeffy cover the small forward options
Duigan plays the mid size forward who can also play a forward defensive role. I like the balance up forward
Dont see a role for Menzel. Mcinnes is fortunate that Watso or White arent available and should keep his spot
http://media.theage.com.au/sport/sport-special/footy-fix-how-far-can-carlton-go-4738095.html (http://media.theage.com.au/sport/sport-special/footy-fix-how-far-can-carlton-go-4738095.html)
No to McInnes - looks like a deer in headlights at present.
I noticed the media has gone quiet on the injuries to Bolton, Hannebury and McVeigh and all the talk is about whether Goodes will play.
http://media.theage.com.au/sport/sport-special/footy-fix-how-far-can-carlton-go-4738095.html (http://media.theage.com.au/sport/sport-special/footy-fix-how-far-can-carlton-go-4738095.html)
No to McInnes - looks like a deer in headlights at present.
Again, SFA to come in hence I would persist with Macca. Is in terrible form but will snap out of it as I really rate this kid. Leave the side as settled as possible. Levi for Krueze if he doesnt come up. Brock for ??
Menzel.
fair call......who starts with the jacket on ? McLeans probably not really an "impact" player.
Dare I say it, Chris Yarran?
Where is that old smiley of the little face darting behind the wall when you need it....
I agree the idea has merit but he's worth another chance IMO, start him across half back and give him a chance to work into the game. He did run hard from defence a few times in the second half and left his man behind, let's give him a four quarter shot at it.
I noticed the media has gone quiet on the injuries to Bolton, Hannebury and McVeigh and all the talk is about whether Goodes will play.
It is just a benefit or symptom of them being in Sydney away from the bulk of the AFL media.
Menzel.
fair call......who starts with the jacket on ? McLeans probably not really an "impact" player.
Dare I say it, Chris Yarran?
Where is that old smiley of the little face darting behind the wall when you need it....
I agree the idea has merit but he's worth another chance IMO, start him across half back and give him a chance to work into the game. He did run hard from defence a few times in the second half and left his man behind, let's give him a four quarter shot at it.
I was more taking the piss hence the request for the smiley.
He didn't have a good match against Richmond, but that doesn't mean he gets the vest.
We have a few A graders that are a bit proppy and might be better suited to being used as sub.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/matthew-kreuzer-in-doubt-for-semifinal-20130911-2tjsu.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/matthew-kreuzer-in-doubt-for-semifinal-20130911-2tjsu.html)
After Kreuser last week returned 4 disposals, 4 tackles, no marks and no score at all,how much worse off would we be with The Bolt in???
I can actually see some positives in the move at this stage.
Kreuzer looked like he can't even walk. I doubt he will take the field. He hasn't had a great season and it has finished on a real low. No point in playing him if he becomes a liability. He needs to get better first and then start working on a come back to get him ready for next season. Levi could create trouble for the swans. Why not.
The problem is that for some reason, despite three pre-seasons Levi can't run out a game, in fact he can barely run out a half.
Goodes will play IMO and the Swans will try and outgun us for size especially if Kruezer doesnt come up.....what we dont want is McInnes for example winding up on Goodes...I dont care if Goodes hasnt played for three years he will lay the smackdown on McInnes and similar if Mick goes crazy and plays Bootsma....this is where we needed Laidler in some form.
You would have to go with Casboult to replace Kruezer.....read somewhere that Hampson has been training well and might be considered....big call to put him after such a long lay off and we all know that Hampson is vision impaired at night and next to useless when trying to take a mark...
we all know that Hampson is vision impaired at night
Bet he can find Megan!!!! ;)
I can't see how we win, so if I were MM I would mess with the line up big time.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/matthew-kreuzer-in-doubt-for-semifinal-20130911-2tjsu.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/matthew-kreuzer-in-doubt-for-semifinal-20130911-2tjsu.html)
After Kreuser last week returned 4 disposals, 4 tackles, no marks and no score at all,how much worse off would we be with The Bolt in???
I can actually see some positives in the move at this stage.
Kreuzer looked like he can't even walk. I doubt he will take the field. He hasn't had a great season and it has finished on a real low. No point in playing him if he becomes a liability. He needs to get better first and then start working on a come back to get him ready for next season. Levi could create trouble for the swans. Why not.
I watched Kreuzer's man run off him countless times vs Richmond, poor old Kreuz was hobbling after him clearly hampered. Have you ever seen someone run with a limp? Not pretty. His ruckwork was ok but otherwise he was a witches hat.
Updated forecast: Good!
Saturday 14 September
Summary Min 13 Max 24 Shower or two.
Sydney area
Partly cloudy. Isolated showers, clearing. Winds northeasterly 15 to 25 km/h becoming light during the day then becoming southwesterly 15 to 20 km/h during the evening.
Menzel.
fair call......who starts with the jacket on ? McLeans probably not really an "impact" player.
Dare I say it, Chris Yarran?
Where is that old smiley of the little face darting behind the wall when you need it....
I agree the idea has merit but he's worth another chance IMO, start him across half back and give him a chance to work into the game. He did run hard from defence a few times in the second half and left his man behind, let's give him a four quarter shot at it.
Give him Jetta... Perfect match up for him it mean he plays of half back and will have the ability to play of him as Jetta is clearly lacking match fitness.
Segment on this morning's ABC News reckons Kreuz is very doubtful.
Anubody heard how Waite's back is feeling, although even if it was buggered the club would be quiet as about it.
Rohan looks doubtful for them can only help our back line if he's out.
GARY Rohan appears to be in doubt for Saturday's semi-final against Carlton judging by a less than impressive effort at Sydney Swans training on Thursday.
As the Swans' coaching panel decides whether to take a punt on Adam Goodes, Rohan was very limited in training and seemed to be having trouble with his surgically repaired right leg.
Limited to running laps in between long discussions with the club's medical staff and apparent issues with his calf, Rohan's body language was not that of a young man excited by the challenge of a knockout final.
Leading sports medico Dr Peter Larkins said earlier this week Rohan had struggled in last Friday night's qualifying final defeat to Hawthorn.
"He's actually struggling a little bit with a lot of calf soreness and I thought he was limping noticeably in the second half of the game," Larkins told AFL.com.au on Monday.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bryce-gibbs-back-in-the-carlton--midfield-and-loving-it-20130912-2tls7.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bryce-gibbs-back-in-the-carlton--midfield-and-loving-it-20130912-2tls7.html)
Carlton's Bryce Gibbs credits a return to the heart of the midfield for producing two of the games of his career in the Blues' two biggest matches so far this AFL season.
Gibbs, sometimes criticised as an outside player who trades off his sweet kicking more than ball-winning, has answered those doubts in impressive fashion over the past two weekends.
In Sunday's comeback elimination final win over Richmond, his 27 disposals included 18 contested possessions and 12 clearances.
He comfortably led every other player on the ground in both of those categories.
Both were also career highs for Gibbs.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bryce-gibbs-back-in-the-carlton--midfield-and-loving-it-20130912-2tls7.html#ixzz2edsTpEIW
I can't see how we win, so if I were MM I would mess with the line up big time.
Not a likely scenario IMO
no change
mcglynn n rohan out for swans
no change
mcglynn n rohan out for swans
McLean as emergency and no Goodes for them.
Sydney Swans v Carlton
ANZ Stadium, Saturday September 14, 7.45pm AEST
SYDNEY SWANS
In: H.Cunningham, S.Biggs
Out: B.McGlynn (calf), G.Rohan
Emerg: B. Jack, J. Lamb, D. Towers
CARLTON
In: -
Out: -
Emerg: L. Casboult, D. Ellard, B. McLean
Goodes out for the season apparently. Hoping McLean is a late inclusion.
who the hell are?
In: H.Cunningham, S.Biggs
who the hell are?
In: H.Cunningham, S.Biggs
Whoever they are I'd rather them out there over McGlynn.
who the hell are?
In: H.Cunningham, S.Biggs
Harry Cunningham is a young midfielder who played a couple of games in the latter half of this season. Biggs played his only game in R23. Sydney is obviously going for the vibrancy of youth to cover their injured players!
Haha I can't believe they selected Biggsy!
One of my weekly feature articles for One Week At A Time is called the 'Cherry Pops' and gives a summary of everyone selected for their first career games in any given week.
Biggsy got three write ups before he actually got to run onto the field, and was dropped the week after his debut game. So they've selected a guy with a total career of 1 game to play a do-or-die semi final :P.
Shane Biggs first mentioned here:
http://www.oneweekatatime.com.au/afl-cherry-pops-round-18/
And again the week after here! I quoted Whitney Houston in his write up that week.
http://www.oneweekatatime.com.au/afl-cherry-pops-round-19/
And for the third time, when he finally did make his debut, the Editor lost the article I sent so his write up never went public. If you want a copy, I have it in MS Word format on my laptop haha.
Hope that helps give some sort of clarity to at least one of their random-seeming inclusions :P
McGlynn is a handy out for us!
He can be very dangerous around goal.
You'd think that Meat is on standby if the Tractor doesn't come up. Might see Brock come in for Menzel making Dinger the sub? Must have hard bodies for a contest against the Fluffy Ducks.
Haha I can't believe they selected Biggsy!
One of my weekly feature articles for One Week At A Time is called the 'Cherry Pops' and gives a summary of everyone selected for their first career games in any given week.
Biggsy got three write ups before he actually got to run onto the field, and was dropped the week after his debut game. So they've selected a guy with a total career of 1 game to play a do-or-die semi final :P.
Shane Biggs first mentioned here:
http://www.oneweekatatime.com.au/afl-cherry-pops-round-18/
And again the week after here! I quoted Whitney Houston in his write up that week.
http://www.oneweekatatime.com.au/afl-cherry-pops-round-19/
And for the third time, when he finally did make his debut, the Editor lost the article I sent so his write up never went public. If you want a copy, I have it in MS Word format on my laptop haha.
Hope that helps give some sort of clarity to at least one of their random-seeming inclusions :P
Expected Return – IF SELECTED – 38 disposals, 11 tackles, 6 marks, 4 goals
Did Paul Roos write that up?
anyway, Danger game.....
who the hell are?
In: H.Cunningham, S.Biggs
Some muppets who will probably kick 4.
Haha I can't believe they selected Biggsy!
One of my weekly feature articles for One Week At A Time is called the 'Cherry Pops' and gives a summary of everyone selected for their first career games in any given week.
Biggsy got three write ups before he actually got to run onto the field, and was dropped the week after his debut game. So they've selected a guy with a total career of 1 game to play a do-or-die semi final :P.
Shane Biggs first mentioned here:
http://www.oneweekatatime.com.au/afl-cherry-pops-round-18/
And again the week after here! I quoted Whitney Houston in his write up that week.
http://www.oneweekatatime.com.au/afl-cherry-pops-round-19/
And for the third time, when he finally did make his debut, the Editor lost the article I sent so his write up never went public. If you want a copy, I have it in MS Word format on my laptop haha.
Hope that helps give some sort of clarity to at least one of their random-seeming inclusions :P
Expected Return – IF SELECTED – 38 disposals, 11 tackles, 6 marks, 4 goals
Did Paul Roos write that up?
anyway, Danger game.....
It is a danger game, but they all are, this time of year.
It is a danger because the Swans are NOT at full strength. Far too many times no name nuffers win games against us, some of which play the only good games of their entire careers. never under estimate the one game wonders: they have bitten us.
I'm not concerned about who is playing for, or against us. I worry more about which Carlton turns up to the game. Hit the Swans hard with pressure and they turn the ball over as bad as any side in the league. This has been the weakness they have shown this season. This is why Fremantle in a final against them would be their worst nightmare. They know how to choke a side up completely.
I'm not concerned about who is playing for, or against us. I worry more about which Carlton turns up to the game. Hit the Swans hard with pressure and they turn the ball over as bad as any side in the league. This has been the weakness they have shown this season. This is why Fremantle in a final against them would be their worst nightmare. They know how to choke a side up completely.
Freo are looking pretty good, to be honest. They get teams playing on their terms, which is half the battle.
But you are right, which Carlton is going to turn up?
Haha I can't believe they selected Biggsy!
One of my weekly feature articles for One Week At A Time is called the 'Cherry Pops' and gives a summary of everyone selected for their first career games in any given week.
Biggsy got three write ups before he actually got to run onto the field, and was dropped the week after his debut game. So they've selected a guy with a total career of 1 game to play a do-or-die semi final :P.
Shane Biggs first mentioned here:
http://www.oneweekatatime.com.au/afl-cherry-pops-round-18/
And again the week after here! I quoted Whitney Houston in his write up that week.
http://www.oneweekatatime.com.au/afl-cherry-pops-round-19/
And for the third time, when he finally did make his debut, the Editor lost the article I sent so his write up never went public. If you want a copy, I have it in MS Word format on my laptop haha.
Hope that helps give some sort of clarity to at least one of their random-seeming inclusions :P
Expected Return – IF SELECTED – 38 disposals, 11 tackles, 6 marks, 4 goals
Did Paul Roos write that up?
anyway, Danger game.....
It is a danger game, but they all are, this time of year.
It is a danger because the Swans are NOT at full strength. Far too many times no name nuffers win games against us, some of which play the only good games of their entire careers. never under estimate the one game wonders: they have bitten us.
They weren't at full strength when we played them earlier this year and they rolled us. Gonna be tuff I reckon, they wont play 2 bad games in a row.
The fact that the Fluffy Ducks did not pick Goodes tells me they are deadly serious about winning this game... and will throw 'everything' at us, and their 'everything' means culture impact; that means 120 minutes of stop/start pain footy. And if they are to beat us... this is their formula to get the job done.
For us to win... how do we absorb that and then stamp our authority on the contest? How do we give them something to worry about?
Haha I can't believe they selected Biggsy!
One of my weekly feature articles for One Week At A Time is called the 'Cherry Pops' and gives a summary of everyone selected for their first career games in any given week.
Biggsy got three write ups before he actually got to run onto the field, and was dropped the week after his debut game. So they've selected a guy with a total career of 1 game to play a do-or-die semi final :P.
Shane Biggs first mentioned here:
http://www.oneweekatatime.com.au/afl-cherry-pops-round-18/
And again the week after here! I quoted Whitney Houston in his write up that week.
http://www.oneweekatatime.com.au/afl-cherry-pops-round-19/
And for the third time, when he finally did make his debut, the Editor lost the article I sent so his write up never went public. If you want a copy, I have it in MS Word format on my laptop haha.
Hope that helps give some sort of clarity to at least one of their random-seeming inclusions :P
Expected Return – IF SELECTED – 38 disposals, 11 tackles, 6 marks, 4 goals
Did Paul Roos write that up?
anyway, Danger game.....
It is a danger game, but they all are, this time of year.
It is a danger because the Swans are NOT at full strength. Far too many times no name nuffers win games against us, some of which play the only good games of their entire careers. never under estimate the one game wonders: they have bitten us.
They weren't at full strength when we played them earlier this year and they rolled us. Gonna be tuff I reckon, they wont play 2 bad games in a row.
The Swans have only won 1 of their last 5 games and that was against the Saints. But yes, they will throw all they have at us and we need to be ready to withstand it.
Hopefully we bring our A attitude and keep that self belief pumping!
The fact that the Fluffy Ducks did not pick Goodes tells me they are deadly serious about winning this game... and will throw 'everything' at us, and their 'everything' means culture impact; that means 120 minutes of stop/start pain footy. And if they are to beat us... this is their formula to get the job done.
For us to win... how do we absorb that and then stamp our authority on the contest? How do we give them something to worry about?
Hawthorn showed the way last week. They ran them into the ground by winning the contested ball all over the ground, plenty of spread and accurate disposal. Are we good enough to do the same? Not sure - we may need a different emphasis.
A little birdy told me Kreuzer had a screw inserted in his foot on Tuesday.
A little birdy told me Kreuzer had a screw inserted in his foot on Tuesday.
yeah, that one popped up on BF on tueday.
What we don't know is if he will be right for this week.
A little birdy told me Kreuzer had a screw inserted in his foot on Tuesday.
yeah, that one popped up on BF on tueday.
What we don't know is if he will be right for this week.
I didnt get it from BF for the record, did know it was on there. Doubt very much the person who told me reads or posts on BF.
Well it appears there is going to be an open training session, the club has stayed in Melbourne when it was expected to leave for Sydney tonight.
Haha I can't believe they selected Biggsy!
One of my weekly feature articles for One Week At A Time is called the 'Cherry Pops' and gives a summary of everyone selected for their first career games in any given week.
Biggsy got three write ups before he actually got to run onto the field, and was dropped the week after his debut game. So they've selected a guy with a total career of 1 game to play a do-or-die semi final :P.
Talk about tempting the jinx-Gods. :o :P
A little birdy told me Kreuzer had a screw inserted in his foot on Tuesday.
yeah, that one popped up on BF on tueday.
What we don't know is if he will be right for this week.
I didnt get it from BF for the record, did know it was on there. Doubt very much the person who told me reads or posts on BF.
Someone called SEN this arvo and said that Kreuzer had a screw inserted into his broken big toe. Now, that could be true but it is highly unlikely, particularly at this time of the year.
The club doesn't have a great deal of credibility when it comes to reporting on injuries but I think the bruised calf scenario is more likely than the broken toe.
I know what history says... I know since this finals system have been implemented NO team has outside the Top 4 has made the Prelim....
I know we only won 11 games and were lucky to be in the finals...this team has plenty of holes and demons only 2 weeks bad kicking cost us...
I know the swans (regardless of how tired they are) are reigning premiers and the No name ins will be instilled with the Swans culture and all players will be willing themselves to block our run and spread...
I know the probability of making a prelim from 9th (8th) is highly unlucky.
What I DON'T KNOW is why I feel we are a massive massive chance, the swans are hurtjf ,stars are out, they look tired.... All logic says we won't win, but by gee I am having a hard time convincing myself.... Go Blues
#Believe
Patrick Keane (AFL Media) has tweeted that Kreuzer is out and Casboult is in (with Sam Rowe added as an emergency).
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane (https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane)
The fact that the Fluffy Ducks did not pick Goodes tells me they are deadly serious about winning this game... and will throw 'everything' at us, and their 'everything' means culture impact; that means 120 minutes of stop/start pain footy. And if they are to beat us... this is their formula to get the job done.
For us to win... how do we absorb that and then stamp our authority on the contest? How do we give them something to worry about?
Simply run and spread from the contest and they wont be able to keep up.
I attended the Blues and Swans games last weekend and while we had the more exciting match there was a huge gulf in class between the 2 matches. We'll have to raise our game to another level if we want to be competitive let alone beat the Swans.
Yep, it's the same mistake everyone makes each year. The semis always pit big winners against big losers, and the temptation is to think that the winners have better form and should butter up. We tend to remember only the last game. But the stats show that the losers in the Qualifying Finals are very likely to win in the semis. Remember 2011 when we humiliated Essendon in the EF but fell short in the semi against the Eagles (although only just).
There's also a massive difference between the 8 day break they have and the 6 day break for us. Sydney should be favourites, but we're still in there with a chance.
Yep, it's the same mistake everyone makes each year. The semis always pit big winners against big losers, and the temptation is to think that the winners have better form and should butter up. We tend to remember only the last game. But the stats show that the losers in the Qualifying Finals are very likely to win in the semis. Remember 2011 when we humiliated Essendon in the EF but fell short in the semi against the Eagles (although only just).
even last year West Coast were all the rage after smashing North to topple the pies.
Patrick Keane (AFL Media) has tweeted that Kreuzer is out and Casboult is in (with Sam Rowe added as an emergency).
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane (https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane)
Big loss for us.
Yep, it's the same mistake everyone makes each year. The semis always pit big winners against big losers, and the temptation is to think that the winners have better form and should butter up. We tend to remember only the last game. But the stats show that the losers in the Qualifying Finals are very likely to win in the semis. Remember 2011 when we humiliated Essendon in the EF but fell short in the semi against the Eagles (although only just).
There's also a massive difference between the 8 day break they have and the 6 day break for us. Sydney should be favourites, but we're still in there with a chance.
Exactly Mav... Media have short memories. Swans won 6 more games this year than us.
Form at the right time is the only thing in our favour.
Official;
SpecialK Out - Meat In
They played a great first half last week and a poor second one. We were the opposite.
Official;
SpecialK Out - Meat In
Might work to our advantage. The Cas does take a few more marks around the ground and has been kicking alot straighter lately. Good luck to him.
Casboult being not much use after half time might hurt us.
There seems to be some frustration with Krooz on here but he does a lot of unrewarded running.
Cas is next to useless for a third of the game when the tank goes.
Casboult being not much use after half time might hurt us.
There seems to be some frustration with Krooz on here but he does a lot of unrewarded running.
Cas is next to useless for a third of the game when the tank goes.
Special K didn't offer a lot post injury last week in any event.
Interesting that Swans' two KPPs down back are 192cm and 193 cm respectively. Grundy and Ted R.
Cas at 199cm has a very big height advantage. Waite too is 194cm?
Cas the same height as Mumford btw.
Disappointed Kruz is out but but really pumped Levi is in… Got a feeling something special is coming from the big fella.
Disappointed Kruz is out but but really pumped Levi is in… Got a feeling something special is coming from the big fella.
Same here - not really very surprised at the news. Let's hope this turns into one of those defining games where Levi can put on a special show - to quote a notorious footy caller. Drawing a long bow but hey, who knows!
Happy Kreuz is out as he has given us not much in the past few weeks (obviously not his fault). The Swans will struggle to match up on Cas he should stay in the goalsquare for the long bomb.
Casboult being not much use after half time might hurt us.
There seems to be some frustration with Krooz on here but he does a lot of unrewarded running.
Cas is next to useless for a third of the game when the tank goes.
Special K didn't offer a lot post injury last week in any event.
Interesting that Swans' two KPPs down back are 192cm and 193 cm respectively. Grundy and Ted R.
Cas at 199cm has a very big height advantage. Waite too is 194cm?
Cas the same height as Mumford btw.
Krooz was still running, still tackling, still rucking and helping out in defence late in the game.
I hope Cas does well but up until now he's a shot duck halfway through the third.
@CIMM
Kreuz wasn't chasing mate he was hobbling I promise you.
Cas kicked 3 goals in the last 40 mins of our game vs Richmond a few weeks ago including two strong marks in the goalsquare. The comments re him running out of steam are a myth trust me. The Hawks game earlier in the year he was simply outplayed in the second half by a smarter B. Lake. Granted that's just one example.
@CIMM
Kreuz wasn't chasing mate he was hobbling I promise you.
Cas kicked 3 goals in the last 40 mins of our game vs Richmond a few weeks ago including two strong marks in the goalsquare. The comments re him running out of steam are a myth trust me. The Hawks game earlier in the year he was simply outplayed in the second half by a smarter B. Lake. Granted that's just one example.
Not a myth.
He struggles to run out second halves.
Krooz may have been hobbling but he was still getting back to help in defence late in the game.
Cas is the man up forward and he'll play just hope he can be good late.
@CIMM
Kreuz wasn't chasing mate he was hobbling I promise you.
Cas kicked 3 goals in the last 40 mins of our game vs Richmond a few weeks ago including two strong marks in the goalsquare. The comments re him running out of steam are a myth trust me. The Hawks game earlier in the year he was simply outplayed in the second half by a smarter B. Lake. Granted that's just one example.
Not a myth.
He struggles to run out second halves.
Krooz may have been hobbling but he was still getting back to help in defence late in the game.
Cas is the man up forward and he'll play just hope he can be good late.
Meat has never had the primo endurance that a bloke like Cloke or Reiwoldt has, yet he has been playing the wing / high forward / HBF marking role and it kills him off. Inmy opinion he needs to staying inside F50 to act as a target for the Amigos to rove to, we do not even need him to mark it every time, we just need him to make sure he is not out marked.
My biggest criticism of Meat in recent times is when you see him out bodied by opposition mediums late in games. He fails to contest marks and the defenders take the ball away too easily, a guy his size should not be out muscled by a 185cm~190cm types ever! FWIW, I have had the same criticism of 206, but 206s last 5~6 quarters have been 1000% better.
In terms of body on body I think our tall players rank like this, until 5~6 quarters ago!;
Kreuzer
Hampson
Rowe
Casboult
Warnock
Now after just 5~6 quarters I think it is more like this;
Kreuzer
Hampson
Warnock
Rowe
Casboult
Warnock is the big improver.
@CIMM
I say it's a myth mate. Ran out the game against Richmond OK. At the ground on Sunday Kreuzer couldn't even chase. One defensive punch over the line doesn't equate to really getting back to help out IMO. Add to that he struggles to take a mark even when fit Cas is a better shot at having an impact. Plus I wouldn't call 7 possies in 2 games worthwhile output regardless of ruckwork. IMO.
@LP
Kreuzer's biggest weakness is body on body in marking contests. If he gets a clear run at it he's a good chance, body on body he struggles to even get his hands on the ball.
FTR 2013:
Kreuzer 17 games 22 contested marks
Meat 10 games 25 contested marks.
That doesn't entirely reflect body on body but gives a decent enough comparison. The two don't compare. Hate to harp on about the Richmond game but Kreuzer wouldn't even have come close to taking those marks Cas took in the second half.
If our rucks (Kreuzer/Warnock) had the ability to even get their hands on the ball in marking contests Meat would be able to stay inside 50. Unfortunately that's not the case.
@LP
Kreuzer's biggest weakness is body on body in marking contests. If he gets a clear run at it he's a good chance, body on body he struggles to even get his hands on the ball.
FTR 2013:
Kreuzer 17 games 22 contested marks
Meat 10 games 25 contested marks.
That doesn't entirely reflect body on body but gives a decent enough comparison. The two don't compare. Hate to harp on about the Richmond game but Kreuzer wouldn't even have come close to taking those marks Cas took in the second half.
If our rucks (Kreuzer/Warnock) had the ability to even get their hands on the ball in marking contests Meat would be able to stay inside 50. Unfortunately that's not the case.
No you have that back to front, you are associating marking stats with contesting which is irrelevant and not what I was talking about. As I mentioned marking the ball is not the critical stat especially if lots of those marks come out on the wing or HBF. A defender marking deep in the 50 is far more damaging to the opponent than a forward marking on the wing!
Kreuzer and Hampson are very rarely out marked anywhere on the ground including inside F50, in fact last weekend was one of the few occasions someone marked against Kreuzer inside 50 in a contest. Even then that was debatable but umpires must pay the man in front. But it got every bodies attention because it rarely happens.
For the bulk of contests Kreuzer and Hampson always at least bring the ball to ground, they both do not clunk anywhere near enough but that is not what I was referring to.
The other three regularly have opponents out marking them or they fail altogether to stay in the contest. When Kreuzer and Hampson enter a contest they rarely fail to at least get a hand on the ball, the others seem to fail regularly!
Nah I disagree, Kreuzer does not bring the ball to ground at all, like I said, he fails to even get his hands on the ball. Pull out any game from this year to figure that out. The only time he got his hands to the ball in a contested situation last week was when he went to mark inside defensive 50m and really should've punched anway. Meat's contested marks alone dismiss your opinions re never getting to the contest and show he is clearly ahead of Kreuz in this area no matter what spin you put on it.
This is going nowhere, let's put it in the agree to disagree bucket and focus on the game. ;)
Nah I disagree, Kreuzer does not bring the ball to ground at all, like I said, he fails to even get his hands on the ball. Pull out any game from this year to figure that out. This is going nowhere, let's put it in the agree to disagree bucket and focus on the game. ;)
I have no idea what games you are watching or what you think a contest is but it isn't marking on a lead on the wing!
Nah I disagree, Kreuzer does not bring the ball to ground at all, like I said, he fails to even get his hands on the ball. Pull out any game from this year to figure that out. This is going nowhere, let's put it in the agree to disagree bucket and focus on the game. ;)
I have no idea what games you are watching or what you think a contest is but it isn't marking on a lead on the wing!
OK one more comment.
I would call a long kickout from a behind to a contest on the HBF outside 50 a contested situation. Kreuzer time and time fails to impact these contests (as does Warnock).
Nah I disagree, Kreuzer does not bring the ball to ground at all, like I said, he fails to even get his hands on the ball. Pull out any game from this year to figure that out. This is going nowhere, let's put it in the agree to disagree bucket and focus on the game. ;)
I have no idea what games you are watching or what you think a contest is but it isn't marking on a lead on the wing!
OK one more comment.
I would call a long kickout from a behind to a contest on the HBF outside 50 a contested situation. Kreuzer time and time fails to impact these contests (as does Warnock).
That situation depends more on the decisions of the kicker than the target, and I suspect if I was at FB and wanted a mark on D50 I would also chose Casboult over the others because he does clunk them more frequently than the others. Those marks help our defense not our forward line, and Kreuzer and Hampson bringing the ball to ground is not a plus inside our D50. But that event has no direct connection or correlation to having our 200cm players out marked and out bodied by defenders inside our F50.
As I have said before, if a defender was standing a 200cm bloke I am sure he would be happy for him to clunk marks on the wing or HBF because it is the better option to having them contested inside the 50!
It is not rocket science PI2C, and I suspect if Meat is prepared to run up the wing for a mark someone in the Sydney defense will happily let him!
People bag Kreuzer and Hampson, but when we get the ball on the HBF either of those two will sprint back to F50 making every attempt to clunk a mark or make a contest. Meat jogs back behind the ball watching it leave his zone! In my opinion that leaves him either unfit, lazy or both!
Meat has never had the primo endurance that a bloke like Cloke or Reiwoldt has, yet he has been playing the wing / high forward / HBF marking role and it kills him off. Inmy opinion he needs to staying inside F50 to act as a target for the Amigos to rove to, we do not even need him to mark it every time, we just need him to make sure he is not out marked.
Spot on. Waite plays the lead up role, the Bolt lurks around the goal front.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/blues-answer-some-questions-but-final-exam-just-got-tougher-20130913-2tpdl.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/blues-answer-some-questions-but-final-exam-just-got-tougher-20130913-2tpdl.html)
For Carlton, what an incredible difference a week makes. Or does it? Duigan has effectively been on the outer for the entire year and only got a late reprieve after Brock McLean’s last-minute withdrawal. Will one good final ensure his future, having been overlooked on 20 other occasions this year? Did Eddie Betts’ industrious, three-goal performance encourage those in charge of re-contracting him to revisit their initial offer?
Have we come any closer to unravelling the enigma that is Jarrad Waite, who once again gave every indication that he could be one of the very best forwards in the competition? The answer to that question ultimately lies with Waite, and the injury gods who have denied him a consistent run at it for most of his career. You get the feeling that the Blues will not deviate from their search for a big key forward, despite managing 18 goals on the weekend.
While those questions remain unanswered, there were definitive answers elsewhere for the Blues, courtesy of their fortuitous foray into September.
Any doubts that Chris Judd’s match-winning ability had passed him by were put to bed. Bryce Gibbs played the sort of game, on the back of the sort of month of football, that is far more in keeping with his ability, and that will elevate his standing in the game.
Marc Murphy has influenced the result of critical games in the past few weeks, and with a big pre-season under his belt will justify his elevation to captain.
Mitch Robinson showed the mental strength, to complement his physical strength, by putting a brain-fade behind him and playing a magnificent, game-defining last quarter. Dare I say it, it was a mature statement from him. :o
Tom Bell demonstrated that he is a player of September standard, Ed Curnow can assume Ryan Crowley type of importance to the Blues and Kade Simpson deserves the recognition that is finally coming his way.
Yes, there were some pleasing answers to season-long questions for the Blues. But there has been no better team to ask the questions, in recent years, than the Swans. The exam just got a whole lot harder.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/blues-answer-some-questions-but-final-exam-just-got-tougher-20130913-2tpdl.html#ixzz2ekQ8UqcY
Meat has never had the primo endurance that a bloke like Cloke or Reiwoldt has, yet he has been playing the wing / high forward / HBF marking role and it kills him off. Inmy opinion he needs to staying inside F50 to act as a target for the Amigos to rove to, we do not even need him to mark it every time, we just need him to make sure he is not out marked.
Spot on. Waite plays the lead up role, the Bolt lurks around the goal front.
And ruck.
His ruck role is as important and you can't do that lurking in the goal square.
Meat has never had the primo endurance that a bloke like Cloke or Reiwoldt has, yet he has been playing the wing / high forward / HBF marking role and it kills him off. Inmy opinion he needs to staying inside F50 to act as a target for the Amigos to rove to, we do not even need him to mark it every time, we just need him to make sure he is not out marked.
Spot on. Waite plays the lead up role, the Bolt lurks around the goal front.
And ruck.
His ruck role is as important and you can't do that lurking in the goal square.
Yep and ruck.
Perhaps not a n A grade ruck but not undersized.
Thinking about the team and in particular the sub. I hate to say it but Yarran is actually the best suited for this game (I'm assuming that Menzel makes way for McLean otherwise it will be Menzel).
I'd prefer the harder bodies in the early stages and then really hit them with run after half time.
As an out of the Box idea, what about Judd as the sub?
I have a feeling that both Rowe and Casboult might play and Waite might not get up for this one...
Oh dear... just realised that this is Simmo's 200th and we know what we do in milstone games! :( Damn.
Oh dear... just realised that this is Simmo's 200th and we know what we do in milstone games! :( Damn.
But it's Simmo's milestone game.
He's not like a lot of other guy's we've had over the journey.
OMG I don't even dare to imagine ATM but we could very well be playing in a Prelim next week. Surely that's enough to spur the boys on, regardless of Simmo's 200th.
OMG I don't even dare to imagine ATM but we could very well be playing in a Prelim next week. Surely that's enough to spur the boys on, regardless of Simmo's 200th.
I did chuckle when I opened the grand final ballot forms in the mail today.
Oh dear... just realised that this is Simmo's 200th and we know what we do in milstone games! :( Damn.
But it's Simmo's milestone game.
He's not like a lot of other guy's we've had over the journey.
Who was the last?
Hoops? :-\
Oh dear... just realised that this is Simmo's 200th and we know what we do in milstone games! :( Damn.
But it's Simmo's milestone game.
He's not like a lot of other guy's we've had over the journey.
Who was the last?
Hoops? :-\
Don't care really.
Simmo is the best player for his build since Glascott.
Anyone know who is umpiring this game or can point me in the right direction to find out?
Casboult gets a chance and I dont have a problem with that....Swans are small down back and the boult could kick some goals, also good to see him rucking vs the awkward Pyke and the big Mummy...good learning game for him and he needs to go out there and impose his big frame in the contests.
If Pyke, Mumford and players like Minson can have decent AFL careers then so can Casboult if he applies himself.....
Anyone know who is umpiring this game or can point me in the right direction to find out?
Nicholls (Overland), Marguettes, Rosebury according to the AFL team sheet.
Simmo is the best player for his build since Glascott.
Good call!! Just needs a flag or two next to his name.
I loved Glascot he was my first badge... I think Simmo is probably better.
Oh dear... just realised that this is Simmo's 200th and we know what we do in milstone games! :( Damn.
But it's Simmo's milestone game.
He's not like a lot of other guy's we've had over the journey.
We have a terrible record of recent time of getting up for a player's milestone game... that's what I was referring to...
Oh dear... just realised that this is Simmo's 200th and we know what we do in milstone games! :( Damn.
But it's Simmo's milestone game.
He's not like a lot of other guy's we've had over the journey.
We have a terrible record of recent time of getting up for a player's milestone game... that's what I was referring to...
I know.
I'm just saying Simmo may be considered more highly.
Not that it makes any difference.
Using milestones as an impetus for winning is overstated, in a final it's almost a myth.
Shortening a tad with the bookies. in from 3.25 to 3.15!!
Menzel out, McLean in... Good move
Bell the sub.
Great move.
Would have preferred to have Menzel in. Finals games are worth about 10 for experience.
But we're in it to win it and Mclean is bound to have more impact IMO. He's a hard body.
Bell sub a bad choice IMO
Great move.
Agree; Menzel has a way to go.
I would have liked to see Bell in the 21 but I can't pick anyone else to be the sub. Hopefully, he'll have an impact when he comes on in the last quarter.