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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: OPINION : Our Next Premiership - Without Judd & Co ??
Well, only the 2014 season can judge whether Murphy will garner Selwood like respect....?

Agree, he has every opportunity to prove to the world he can be a great captain. The team could go either way IMO and much of the responsibility of which direction it takes will fall at the feet of Murph.

Yes p
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: OPINION : Our Next Premiership - Without Judd & Co ??
Will be visiting this site more after TC once again got touchy over my questioning of the club's decision making.
 If anyone knows my views the Judd deal was bad . You would only give up 2 potentially fine players who would be now at their peak and a 50 goals a year player for the best player in the land if the club thought they would win a flag in that time.
We are a long way off it and Judd hasn't long to go. Armfield the bi-product of the deal is a reasonable footballer but I reckon his skills arn't good enough to play in flags.
 Once again the club screws up.

Two things to consider
Injuries and depth. Last year I went to see Geelong and the Northern Blues at Skilled and we scored one goal in a half of footy in perfect conditions with around 15 listed and rookie listed players. Obviously our depth was crap but it wasn't tested with a lack of injuries. With the addition of the new players from other clubs our depth is marginally better but if injuries mount up we are in big trouble.
The opposition that finished below us could all improve this year which means that we need to get better just to finish 9th( yes that is where we finished last year in reality)

My view is that this list is not capable of winning a flag and we need to rebuild now. Not getting sheepdogs that Thomas or guys who simply aren't up to it like Cameron Wood.

The problem is the culture of the club which is where too good to rebuild. This view has been the club's biggest problem. Its own view of itself.
Personally I am coming around to the view that MM isn't the answer

Entitled to your opinion Keogh but your views are about as glass half empty as they come.

Even under Ratten playing the 'hot' WCE in a Perth final, bar injury to T-bird and some arguably parochial umpiring we would have won that game.

We get Carrots and Thomas fit for 2014 our midfield is as good as any, nay probably the best, if Gibbs and Murphy find some serious form.

We now also have two real, quality swingmen for 2014 - Hendo and Everitt.

Injuries withstanding, we are a good a chance as any for top 4 in 2014. After that, it's a roll of the dice.

Judd is all class and arguably Josh K. would not have dwevelopped as he has if he had stayed at CFC.

Matt Kreuzer - yes a dissapointment thus far but he still has time on his side to be what we all thought he would be.... a champion.

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THEY SAID IT

"He's (Kreuzer) served his apprenticeship and I think in the next 30-40 games he'll really come into his own.

"If he doesn’t get more serious injuries he could play another 150-200 games. If that happens, he'll just keep getting better and become not only one of the best ruckmen but one of the best players in the competition.

“He can do things that other ruckmen can't. What's underestimated is his ability to do things after he hits the ball. He doesn’t just stand back and let the little fellas fight for the ball; he lays tackles and shepherds and stays in the contest. He certainly imposes himself.” – Former Carlton premiership ruckman Justin Madden, Saturday 27 July.

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2013-10-02/2013-review-matthew-kreuzer

Everitt is not a proven performer yet
Our midfield is average they don't run well enough the other way and some lack mongrel. Gibbs is so overrated. For someone who is looked upon as a quality mid he still spends way too much in defence.
We lack depth although it's better than last year
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: OPINION : Our Next Premiership - Without Judd & Co ??
Will be visiting this site more after TC once again got touchy over my questioning of the club's decision making.
 If anyone knows my views the Judd deal was bad . You would only give up 2 potentially fine players who would be now at their peak and a 50 goals a year player for the best player in the land if the club thought they would win a flag in that time.
We are a long way off it and Judd hasn't long to go. Armfield the bi-product of the deal is a reasonable footballer but I reckon his skills arn't good enough to play in flags.
 Once again the club screws up.

Two things to consider
Injuries and depth. Last year I went to see Geelong and the Northern Blues at Skilled and we scored one goal in a half of footy in perfect conditions with around 15 listed and rookie listed players. Obviously our depth was crap but it wasn't tested with a lack of injuries. With the addition of the new players from other clubs our depth is marginally better but if injuries mount up we are in big trouble.
The opposition that finished below us could all improve this year which means that we need to get better just to finish 9th( yes that is where we finished last year in reality)

My view is that this list is not capable of winning a flag and we need to rebuild now. Not getting sheepdogs that Thomas or guys who simply aren't up to it like Cameron Wood.

The problem is the culture of the club which is where too good to rebuild. This view has been the club's biggest problem. Its own view of itself.
Personally I am coming around to the view that MM isn't the answer
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Blues Vs Swans - post match expert analysis

In reality the Judd deal crippled the club, but I would do it again in a heart beat.

Yep, in retrospect, I have to agree with you.  It's been a privilege having him in the team and watching him play but it seems the flowchart diagram on the whiteboard in the board room was:

a. get Judd
b. win Premiership
c. pat eachother on the back

Think there were a few steps missing between 'a' and 'b'.

Without Judd we were the Bulldogs for ten years.

He brought the 3 P's

A.. Professionalism

B.. Profile

C.. Performance

Money well spent!!

bullcrap
cost us
two potential mids who would be around 23 and a near Coleman medallist only a couple of years older
Armfield has a crack but his skills are below standard
when you have crap board
you lack professionalism
get rid of them install a professional group of 6 and don't need one guy who costs a fortune to install professionalism
profile success brings more profile but success comes from
recruiting the right players for modern football
spending appropriate money to develop them
the lists builds together from a young age
the quick fix doesn't work anymore. The club hasn't understood this for a long time
performance we have been average with him in the team


The Judd trade was a screwup from a team
anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't a screwen clue how you build a team to win a flag these days