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Re: Pre-Game 2021 AFL Rnd 1: Richmond vs Carlton.

Reply #90 –
Quote from: LP on
Well, I think Kouta in full flight was more Michael Jordan than Dusty.
Interesting comparison, I think Kouta was a freak and on his day unstoppable. I think Dusty is better and has achieved more team success and individual success (Normies and Brownlows).
2017-16th
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2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
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2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
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Reply #91 –
Quote from: LP on
Well, I think Kouta in full flight was more Michael Jordan than Dusty.

Sadly injuries cut him down in his prime.

I watched the 95 grand final for the first time in years and I can't believe how much I underrated Kouta's game that day. I always had Peter Dean as my Norm Smith but that has now changed. Kouta destroyed Geelong in first half and was BOG by a mile at the break. Nothing happened after half time so he was clearly the most influential player on the ground.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #92 –
Quote from: LP on
Well, I think Kouta in full flight was more Michael Jordan than Dusty.

And Jezza at his best was a combination of Larry Bird and Magic Johnson :)

There’s no doubting Dusty’s ability, particularly in finals.  He has to be up there with the best of contemporary players but he does have the advantage of playing in a very good and well-coached team.


BTW, the next episode of “Australia in Colour” on SBS features footage of the mighty John Nichols doing battle against Rottingwood.  Not to be missed!
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #93 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
Sadly injuries cut him down in his prime.

I watched the 95 grand final for the first time in years and I can't believe how much I underrated Kouta's game that day. I always had Peter Dean as my Norm Smith but that has now changed. Kouta destroyed Geelong in first half and was BOG by a mile at the break. Nothing happened after half time so he was clearly the most influential player on the ground.

Totally agree MBB - clearly BOG and should have worn Norm.

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Reply #94 –
Kouta's star burned with a manic intensity for a few seasons, but what came before and after those few seasons leaves a little to be desired IMO. A lot of money for average output, poor leadership and attitude during the Pagan years. His occasional pleas to the club to return in some coaching / mentoring capacity have all fallen on deaf ears up till now. Which should tell you something. 

Great when he was great, but..................

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Reply #95 –
PS; I forgot Judd, he wasn't too bad, better than Dusty! ;)

Probably Judd is right up there with Diesel, Lethal, GOD and Duck.
The Force Awakens!

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Reply #96 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
Sadly injuries cut him down in his prime.

I watched the 95 grand final for the first time in years and I can't believe how much I underrated Kouta's game that day. I always had Peter Dean as my Norm Smith but that has now changed. Kouta destroyed Geelong in first half and was BOG by a mile at the break. Nothing happened after half time so he was clearly the most influential player on the ground.
I was at the game, for mine Kouta was Normy.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
 

Re: Pre-Game 2021 AFL Rnd 1: Richmond vs Carlton.

Reply #97 –
Quote from: LP on
PS; I forgot Judd, he wasn't too bad, better than Dusty! ;)

Probably Judd is right up there with Diesel, Lethal, GOD and Duck.
Im old enough to have seen Lethal's 2nd half career, has always been numero uno for me. Dusty's career aint over and he won't he won't kick 915 goals but his impact on games is second to none.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

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Reply #98 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Im old enough to have seen Lethal's 2nd half career, has always been numero uno for me. Dusty's career aint over and he won't he won't kick 915 goals but his impact on games is second to none.
Yes, Lethal is my overall best and by some margin, not my favourite Doull is the man in that regard.

Lethal could roll up to Carlton or any other club and replace pretty much anyone in any position 'except perhaps' the rucks, and I say 'perhaps' because they never tried him there and I'm not confident he wouldn't succeed!

Most modern fans have never seen a rover wipe his ar5e with A-Grade KPP opponents while resting at FF, imagine Betts playing like Lockett at FF, then going on ball for a stint of being RooShooter, before returning to Lockett mode just for a rest. Most of the young'uns will think I'm exaggerating!
The Force Awakens!

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Reply #99 –
Quote from: LP on
Yes, Lethal is my overall best and by some margin, not my favourite Doull is the man in that regard.

Lethal could roll up to Carlton or any other club and replace pretty much anyone in any position 'except perhaps' the rucks, and I say 'perhaps' because they never tried him there and I'm not confident he wouldn't succeed!

Most modern fans have never seen a rover wipe his ar5e with A-Grade KPP opponents while resting at FF, imagine Betts playing like Lockett at FF, then going on ball for a stint of being RooShooter, before returning to Lockett mode just for a rest. Most of the young'uns will think I'm exaggerating!

Yes, leaving aside guys who played 100 years ago, and whose exploits are not easily amenable to scrutiny, Lethal is the best player in history IMO. It's a shame he was also a total thug, and taught thuggery to Dermie, Dippa and all his other proteges. Super super player.

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Reply #100 –
Quote from: PaulP on
Yes, leaving aside guys who played 100 years ago, and whose exploits are not easily amenable to scrutiny, Lethal is the best player in history IMO. It's a shame he was also a total thug, and taught thuggery to Dermie, Dippa and all his other proteges. Super super player.
I'm not sure they stood out much from the crowd back then, in terms of thuggery, other than having an extreme propensity to take what they give.

Twas different back in those days!
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Reply #101 –
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I'm not sure they stood out much from the crowd back then, other than having an extreme propensity to take what they give.

IMO, I think they were bad even by the standards of the day. Brereton stomping on Tallis' head immediately comes to mind.

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Reply #102 –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCGi7Yy9p74
CheatsFC fans have tried to re-write history on this, claiming a one metre long section of the point post broke off and hit the boundary umpire after it had been glued on to extend it's length to VFL/AFL regulations. Except it's more than a 2m length that breaks and the end is splintered and it goes nowhere near the umpire who is also collected by Matthews.

If a modern player hit a post like that we'd all stop while they get jeeped off!
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Reply #103 –
Quote from: PaulP on
IMO, I think they were bad even by the standards of the day. Brereton stomping on Tallis' head immediately comes to mind.
Yes, but violence breeds violence, it's hard to measure them relatively.

You're talking about a general era which began with Balme being a Nthmond hero!

In the best Clarke and Dawe fashion, stick that in your pipe and smoke it while watching us battle those slack jawed gobbing ferals next Thursday, with their 500:1 crowd ratio! I think I hate them more than the Filth, perhaps second only to the Cheats. There must be something about the stain of a Sheedy that you can never wash off!
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Reply #104 –
Quote from: LP on
Yes, but violence breeds violence, it's hard to measure them relatively.

You're talking about a general era which began with Balme being a Nthmond hero!

I'm not sure when it began, but my memory is that the "unsociable" Hawks existed long before Clarkson.