Carlton Supporters Club

So why bother emloyin a coach Thry?

Quote from: shadesy on August 25, 2013, 09:50:06 am

Quote from: Thryleon on August 25, 2013, 12:39:59 am

Im gob smacked as to how people can continue backing the players and pointing at the coach.  These guys did the exact same thing when Ratten was coaching for his career and finals were on the line last year.  A season on and our coach has been with this mob for less than 12 months and these guys have done it again with finals on the line again.

The players lost me when they failed to rally behind the coach.  Why?  Because they are a group that have been molly coddled to the point that they can only play well when everything is going to plan.

Miss a few shots at goal and the collective crap their dacks.

Its time for us to back someone to do whatever it takes.

Nothing had changed in 12 months and that's not a failing of the coach?

We should just let then run themselves and save the mill then.

Of course nothing has changed in twelve months.  The playing group is still the same and they are too busy playing for themselves and lack the collective stones to rally behind their coach to save his job and play finals.

I was dissapointed to see Ratten go, because as much as he failed his players his players failed him, and I will not back anyone but Malthouse because at least he has a proven track record of doing a good job and might be the only person at the club who can claim this (judd aside who is not who he used to be).  Collingwood might have been almost premiers under mick for much of his tenure but given just how bad we have been for roughly 13 years now, i would take that over the making up numbers team we have been.

Quote from: shadesy on August 25, 2013, 10:35:05 am

So why bother emloyin a coach Thry?

So he can implement the change that we want to see.  The players taking so long to respond is on them not the coach.  Its not a complicated message that gets delivered but you have to be listening to hear it, and you need to be smart enough to understand it.

When have you labelled any of our group smart? How often do they kick to the low percentage option?  Eddie betts vs Carlisle in the air or something equally stupid where Hendo is two on one against? 

This is why its taking so long to get through to them.

Quote from: Thryleon on August 25, 2013, 10:39:32 am

Quote from: shadesy on August 25, 2013, 10:35:05 am

So why bother emloyin a coach Thry?

So he can implement the change that we want to see.  The players taking so long to respond is on them not the coach.  Its not a complicated message that gets delivered but you have to be listening to hear it, and you need to be smart enough to understand it.

When have you labelled any of our group smart? How often do they kick to the low percentage option?  Eddie betts vs Carlisle in the air or something equally stupid where Hendo is two on one against? 

This is why its taking so long to get through to them.

So Port has better and smarter players than us?

Quote from: Thryleon on August 25, 2013, 10:39:32 am

Quote from: shadesy on August 25, 2013, 10:35:05 am

So why bother emloyin a coach Thry?

So he can implement the change that we want to see.  The players taking so long to respond is on them not the coach.  Its not a complicated message that gets delivered but you have to be listening to hear it, and you need to be smart enough to understand it.

When have you labelled any of our group smart? How often do they kick to the low percentage option?  Eddie betts vs Carlisle in the air or something equally stupid where Hendo is two on one against? 

This is why its taking so long to get through to them.

So Port has better and smarter players than us?

Last time we met this team Waite kicked a lazy 7 goals out of the 10 we managed.

Yet all game that's right all game he plays defence while we struggle to put goals on the board.

Not enough being said about this.

The team is insipid no doubt but MM is not half the coach he was. 

I love his passion and loved watching him go mad every now and then when coaching the pies but his weekly demeanor suggests something is very wrong.

Standing in the box, hitting and throwing things, incorporative press conferences all point to a man who has lost control as its obvious he has no way of getting the success most thought he would. Being such a proud man he is so bloody frustrated he can't hide it. I think he took this gig quietly thinking he inherited a Geelong that with with him giving the odd spray and maybe just his presence he could get us further then our previous coach. WRONG.

So how do we buy ourself out of this one?  Buying at the time the best player in the comp failed. Sacking our nutcase FF failed didnt do much. Sacking a past legend and buying the most expensive coach in the afl will ultimately be another fail.

We are in a heap of sh1t. Sorry but being a big player in this years draft is not going to fix this mess. It time to start again. Its not top up time. A heap of pain ahead. Murphy being our captain pretty much sums up what we are about. If he doesn't stand down at years end the club must make the decision for him.

I have been feeling in for the last 18 months so this is no knee jerk one bad loss reaction but I am over the afl and worse I'm over my team. 

They both stand for nothing and treat supporters like fools.

Not anymore. Might still watch our game if I have nothing else going on but there will be no membership, no going to games, no watching daily rubbish footy shows-all this is gone for good.

Time to move on.

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on August 25, 2013, 06:54:22 am

Our game plan is to ignore fantastic attacking options through the middle and kick to one on ones down the boundary. The amount of time we have a great option and ignore it to go to a one on one is so frustrating aint no way that game plan is going to get you a premiership nowadays.

One problem I noticed is certain senior players ignore better options because of who the player is and this has been going on for years now. Scotland had Duigan on his own the centre square, ignored him and kicked it long and high to Marc Murphy who had to out mark his opponent. Murph has never taken a contested mark in his life.

Quote from: Brettie on August 25, 2013, 10:15:03 am

Btw.....wtf was McInnes thinking in that last minute? Take the friggin' mark, compose yourself, ice the clock, give off a cheapie short-pass, a draw ensues (still not ideal, but better than a straight out loss). Deadset panic-merchants.

....really undid all his good work this year for mine.

Quote from: madbluboy on August 25, 2013, 12:01:32 am

I was at the game, our boys tried so I don't get the lack of effort comments. We're just not very good.

Dominated the game largely. At one stage had 16 of the last 18 scoring shots. And lost the game of footy.

Just mentally inept. And nothing to fall back to when the going gets tough. This was Ratts biggest failing, yet 12 months on I see nothing has changed.

I guess we can write off the season now, most supporters were happy to anyway.

Quote from: shadesy on August 25, 2013, 09:33:48 am

Quote from: madbluboy on August 25, 2013, 12:01:32 am

I was at the game, our boys tried so I don't get the lack of effort comments. We're just not very good.

Dominated the game largely. At one stage had 16 of the last 18 scoring shots. And lost the game of footy.

Just mentally inept. And nothing to fall back to when the going gets tough. This was Ratts biggest failing, yet 12 months on I see nothing has changed.

I guess we can write off the season now, most supporters were happy to anyway.

Twelve months on ...... same list, same Leopards, same spots !

Fark you Carlton. You crape me to farking tears. I can only put up with so much crape in one lifetime. Go and get farked !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shove this membership right up your farking collective a55es.
I hate you right at this very moment as much as I hate the very club that beat you tonight.
You could have made the finals and lost by a gazzilion points and I couldnt have given a ratsd tossbag but losing to this mob ...........go and get farked. I hate you. i now barrick for Richmond FFS. Suck on that you hopeless bunch of wannabees !!!!!

Simmo, you are a gem but the rest of you can go and get farked !!