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Reply #15 –
I don't get the day off shizen, it's just going to hurt small business that can't afford it.

If the Feds and States want to celebrate, why not just take the funds they would have wasted on paying government staff for a day off that most people do not want, and allocate it to women's sport so the never ending resource battle between men and women is diminished!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #16 –
England tomorrow night, big challenge. Can they get it done?
Lets hope there's more misery inflicted on the Poms by an Aussie team.
Go Tillys.
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Reply #17 –
Well done Matildas, put on a great show, very sad.

Game played out exactly as many experts suggested, Pommie team full of one touch stars, in the big moments that little bit of extra polish matters.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #18 –
Just a microsecond off the pace and skill execution from the get go. Unfortunately.

Great effort in the series Matildas 👏🏼
Inspired the next generation of budding players.
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

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Reply #19 –
England looked a class above.  The girls played with the grit that sees Australian athletes be competitive but there is no harm being beaten by a better side.

Carpenter would like to have had that second goal again.  Tried to feck around with it rather than just knocking it out.

Thats football.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #20 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
England looked a class above.  The girls played with the grit that sees Australian athletes be competitive but there is no harm being beaten by a better side.

Carpenter would like to have had that second goal again.  Tried to feck around with it rather than just knocking it out.

Thats football.
They aren't European Champions for nothing, too classy across the field. Felt for Carpenter, she lost her way for a few crucial seconds. The 3rd goal was weak as piss by the Aussies, the English girl virtually walked it in unchallenged from the centre to almost the box and laid it off to Russo who knocked it in. The Maltidas will learn a lot from that loss, I think England go on and win it.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

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Reply #21 –
Never looked like we'd win it.
Brilliant effort from Kerr to do her best, but not even she can outclass a team that good.

I reckon we'd take that if offered at the start of the tournament though.

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Reply #22 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
They aren't European Champions for nothing, too classy across the field. Felt for Carpenter, she lost her way for a few crucial seconds. The 3rd goal was weak as piss by the Aussies, the English girl virtually walked it in unchallenged from the centre to almost the box and laid it off to Russo who knocked it in. The Maltidas will learn a lot from that loss, I think England go on and win it.

Hemp was a lot better in that moment than you give her credit for.  She drew in an opponent and threaded a perfectly weighted ball.  The finish sublime.  With Australia pushing for an equaliser they committed numbers forward and left the defense unprotected and you saw the English defenders do similar for Kerr's forward run. 

The reality is it's the hardest thing to get right, stay or go.  That through ball needs to be perfectly weighted and the run from the attacker perfectly timed or the ball goes to the keeper and attacker offside.

Kerr is a gun but she ultimately cost the game snatching at a shot that she would put away 95% of the time and should have made it 2-2 a minute earlier.  That's football.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #23 –
Referee was terrible, set the tone early allowing blatant fouls, do they only get the cards out if you stomp on someone in the women's comp?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #24 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Referee was terrible, set the tone early allowing blatant fouls, do they only get the cards out if you stomp on someone in the women's comp?

I tend to agree.

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Reply #25 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Referee was terrible, set the tone early allowing blatant fouls, do they only get the cards out if you stomp on someone in the women's comp?
I was actually expecting us to be the more physical team, but it looked like we were worried about fouling, probably a function of the other night when the French opposition spent every other second flopping.

It seems to be an ongoing balance soccer fails to get correct, one game is overloaded with flops the next opponents leave the field battered and bruised without a foul. Perhaps we missed a trick with the US Referee versus a European or Sth American Referee.

Even so the Pommies were too good, too strong across the board they had no weak spots. Our coach sort of predicted this result, based on the amount of work we had to do to get there, it seems in this tournament doing the work early brings a real benefit!

Kerr truly looks a class above, I don't get why some people think she is not the best in the game, and how it can be that she is not the highest paid. She made the best defence in the world game look ordinary and could easily have ended up with a brace in a World Cup game!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #26 –
I do understand the controversy surrounding Marty Sheargold's Matildas comments, but there are aspects of it I do not get. The bluntness with which Sheargold delivered that assessment is probably offensive, but only outside of the context of being comedic. The reaction of his organisation is part of the modern problem, I'm not sure where that will head long term, and the hypocrisy of those organisations is on display in the scheduled broadcasts, they do not walk the talk.

I get the perception / assertion from Sheargold that the women's sport is lacking in professional performance levels, many of the women I know who have an interest in sport say the same. that it is hard to watch and some even refuse to watch it.

I also get that professional female sport has to start somewhere, however equal pay and equal coverage seems at best premature, is it justified at the moment, is this a chicken and egg debate?

Much of the controversy seems to rise from the idea of equal pay for equal work, but in terms of sport there is a clear difference in performance, no matter how some want to spin it. There are two types of elite, elite relative to peers and elite in an unrestricted comparison.

Can women's sport compete with men's sport as a general spectacle? Well as far as I can tell it can't if the comparison is to remain unrestricted, but if the comparison is exclusively relative to other female sport then fans should understand the differences.

The error perhaps isn't driven by the sport becoming commercial too soon, but the expectation that it will be or is unrestrictedly comparable to men's sport.

An associate made a nice analogy the other day while discussing female tradespeople. She said as long as the resulting work is comparable she will actively discriminate to promote more females in the workplace, but she recently baulked at quotes because in the detail they weren't equal. The girls, in this case plumbers, were charging / quoting the same hourly rate, same materials, same solution, but wanted almost twice as long to complete the job.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #27 –
Quote from: LP – on
Much of the controversy seems to rise from the idea of equal pay for equal work, but in terms of sport there is a clear difference in performance, no matter how some want to spin it. There are two types of elite, elite relative to peers and elite in an unrestricted comparison.

Can women's sport compete with men's sport as a general spectacle? Well as far as I can tell it can't if the comparison is to remain unrestricted, but if the comparison is exclusively relative to other female sport then fans should understand the differences.

The error perhaps isn't driven by the sport becoming commercial too soon, but the expectation that it will be or is unrestrictedly comparable to men's sport.

I don't watch a lot of women's football of any code.
If the AFLW is on I might watch a bit.
If the Carlton women are playing.. perhaps a bit more
But over a season I'll miss more games than I see.
While most of these football codes have had women playing for some time, it's only recently they've moved to a more elite level.
Things like speed, skill and pressure are still noticeably way off the men's game.

Two sports I enjoy watching women competing in are swimming and track and field.
While the men's performances are still superior to women's there is not a great deal of difference in technique.
In training the women athletes/swimmers work just as hard as men and dedicate a similar number of hours to that preparation.
They have been doing so for nearly 100 years.

I would guess that's the same with Womens tennis.
It's very popular, and has been so since I was a lad.

It goes without saying that the skill gap between men and women footballers will narrow, and while it will never be the same, it will be significantly closer than it is now.

More than anything the football codes probably just need time.

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Reply #28 –
Quote from: Lods – on
It goes without saying that the skill gap between men and women footballers will narrow, and while it will never be the same, it will be significantly closer than it is now.

More than anything the football codes probably just need time.
I agree, it's why I pose the question about some aspects being premature, for example to me the pay argy bargy is a cart before the horse argument that might actually slow the development of the sport.

I refer to the pay debates because they are common and easy, but there are other aspects as well like media coverage, marketing, season length, tournament schedules, etc., etc.. In some ways some of those women's sports are presenting what the theatrical industry would label a 1st rehearsal, yet charging / claiming a premium for the privilege of watching.

There are a handful of female athletes in most sports that stand out, really stand out, I think that the differential is another sign of immaturity.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #29 –
Sheargold sacked LMAO.

Triple M going woke.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!