Re: Pass-mark for 2014 Reply #45 – December 12, 2013, 02:41:05 pm Quote from: MilkIt on December 11, 2013, 06:47:45 pmQuote from: ItsOurTime on December 11, 2013, 06:42:31 pmQuote from: Woodstock on December 11, 2013, 05:59:23 pm5. Our squad needs to improve across the board, not just the usual "it's time for Gibbs to stand up" nonsense. Across the board improvement will allow everyone to feed off each other and excel collectively.Agree. But it's still time for Gibbs to stand up Gibbs will have a standout year and establish himself as an elite A grader in the competition... then he'll get poached via Free Agency at the end of the year. Let's be realistic.....unless we are seriously on the up he is gone for bigger bucks than we can offer.
Re: Pass-mark for 2014 Reply #46 – December 12, 2013, 04:57:36 pm Quote from: Thryleon on December 12, 2013, 01:12:02 pmCare to let us know where these strong rumours emanate from?Adelaide of course!Although in fairness to the current rumors the last time he renewed his contract with us he also allegedly meet in Adelaide with officials from the Crows. After he re-signed he had stated he had no intention of leaving, perhaps he just went to the Crows office to tell them no!I wonder what Ross Gibbs is doing these days?
Re: Pass-mark for 2014 Reply #47 – December 12, 2013, 05:13:16 pm Quote from: LP on December 12, 2013, 04:57:36 pmQuote from: Thryleon on December 12, 2013, 01:12:02 pmCare to let us know where these strong rumours emanate from?Adelaide of course!Although in fairness to the current rumors the last time he renewed his contract with us he also allegedly meet in Adelaide with officials from the Crows. After he re-signed he had stated he had no intention of leaving, perhaps he just went to the Crows office to tell them no!I wonder what Ross Gibbs is doing these days?If the Crows pick up Gibbs via FA, they'll have a lot of trouble fitting Betts, Dangerfield, Sloane and Walker under the salary cap.
Re: Pass-mark for 2014 Reply #48 – December 12, 2013, 05:59:42 pm Quote from: shadesy on December 12, 2013, 01:24:08 pmMick was given three years.Given the adage you need to lose one to win one, We need to be playing off in the Big one this year.Anything else is a fail.That's my benchmark too Shadesy. Malthouse was employed to win a flag and we have to make this season's GF to have a realistic chance in 2015. Of course, we could exceed expectations and get the job done in 2014 and 2015
Re: Pass-mark for 2014 Reply #49 – December 12, 2013, 06:47:10 pm Quote from: DJC on December 12, 2013, 05:59:42 pmQuote from: shadesy on December 12, 2013, 01:24:08 pmMick was given three years.Given the adage you need to lose one to win one, We need to be playing off in the Big one this year.Anything else is a fail.That's my benchmark too Shadesy. Malthouse was employed to win a flag and we have to make this season's GF to have a realistic chance in 2015. Of course, we could exceed expectations and get the job done in 2014 and 2015 Have you got him set up for failure??
Re: Pass-mark for 2014 Reply #50 – December 12, 2013, 08:43:39 pm Quote from: DJC on December 12, 2013, 05:59:42 pmThat's my benchmark too Shadesy. Malthouse was employed to win a flag and we have to make this season's GF to have a realistic chance in 2015. Of course, we could exceed expectations and get the job done in 2014 and 2015 The only way we will make the Grand Final in 2014 is if we do a "Bradbury" as others fall around us unexpectedly.
Re: Pass-mark for 2014 Reply #51 – December 12, 2013, 08:45:19 pm Quote from: TheSheik on December 11, 2013, 09:58:46 pmQuote from: Mantis on December 11, 2013, 09:46:57 pmSheik is that just an example or are you suggesting we should finish between 6th and 10th depending on injuries ? Surely we should be good enough to finish above 6th if everything works our way this season.Yes, that is what I'm saying.I still don't think we have the exact playing list we need to go further into the finals and until we do, we are going to be in the bottom half of the 8 at best. For us to do better, then one of the better teams has to have a stinker of a season and I just can't see them doing that right at the moment.Freo, Sydney, Hawks, Pies & Cats are all quality outfits and we have to be at our best to beat them hence the reason why 6th is my best placing. There are a handful of other teams (North, Port, Tigers & Crows) who will around our level as well. Its hard to argue with you when you put it that way. I'm hoping Collingwood slips a little, along with the Cats. Then maybe we have a chance to do something.
Re: Pass-mark for 2014 Reply #52 – December 12, 2013, 10:32:06 pm Quote from: TheSheik on December 12, 2013, 08:43:39 pmQuote from: DJC on December 12, 2013, 05:59:42 pmThat's my benchmark too Shadesy. Malthouse was employed to win a flag and we have to make this season's GF to have a realistic chance in 2015. Of course, we could exceed expectations and get the job done in 2014 and 2015 The only way we will make the Grand Final in 2014 is if we do a "Bradbury" as others fall around us unexpectedly.You may be right Sheik but, if we don't, it will be a monumental failure and an indictment on the Club's management.
Re: Pass-mark for 2014 Reply #53 – December 12, 2013, 11:09:53 pm Quote from: DJC on December 12, 2013, 10:32:06 pmQuote from: TheSheik on December 12, 2013, 08:43:39 pmQuote from: DJC on December 12, 2013, 05:59:42 pmThat's my benchmark too Shadesy. Malthouse was employed to win a flag and we have to make this season's GF to have a realistic chance in 2015. Of course, we could exceed expectations and get the job done in 2014 and 2015 The only way we will make the Grand Final in 2014 is if we do a "Bradbury" as others fall around us unexpectedly.You may be right Sheik but, if we don't, it will be a monumental failure and an indictment on the Club's management.I think we can accept that things didn't go to plan. Just a question of where to from here.
Re: Pass-mark for 2014 Reply #55 – December 13, 2013, 12:13:35 am Don't give up hope just yet. We are not Richmond or The Bulldogs. Even Melbourne are looking at hope for the future. Let us play like dogs before we treat them as such. Lets look with hope that we are on the up before we give up hope. Being realistic is one thing, but if we give up hope we are better off supporting the Giants. The season hasn't started just yet so lets hope for something better, and believe now before the wrecking ball swings before we give it all up. Our list isn't that bad, and our coach isn't a clown in a three ring circus just yet. Our picks and pick ups are different to what we have seen before, so surely things will change. Won't they
Re: Pass-mark for 2014 Reply #56 – December 13, 2013, 11:12:40 am Playing in a GF next year is a Pipedream. More so a wank than a Pipedream. We will probably need a lot to go right to even make the eight.
Re: Pass-mark for 2014 Reply #57 – December 13, 2013, 12:10:19 pm Quote from: Mantis on December 13, 2013, 12:13:35 amDon't give up hope just yet. We are not Richmond or The Bulldogs. Even Melbourne are looking at hope for the future. Let us play like dogs before we treat them as such. Lets look with hope that we are on the up before we give up hope. Being realistic is one thing, but if we give up hope we are better off supporting the Giants. The season hasn't started just yet so lets hope for something better, and believe now before the wrecking ball swings before we give it all up. Our list isn't that bad, and our coach isn't a clown in a three ring circus just yet. Our picks and pick ups are different to what we have seen before, so surely things will change. Won't they Right there with you, Green Stick.When you factor in only two real howlers this year (Doggies game in particular) and that the new coach admitting he did not understand the abilities/potentials of his group for the first 4-6 weeks and that we were always making up for 2 or 3 non-hackers on the paddock in most weeks, then I believe there is plenty of room for cautious optimism for 2014.
Re: Pass-mark for 2014 Reply #58 – December 13, 2013, 12:53:56 pm Quote from: TheSheik on December 12, 2013, 08:43:39 pmQuote from: DJC on December 12, 2013, 05:59:42 pmThat's my benchmark too Shadesy. Malthouse was employed to win a flag and we have to make this season's GF to have a realistic chance in 2015. Of course, we could exceed expectations and get the job done in 2014 and 2015 The only way we will make the Grand Final in 2014 is if we do a "Bradbury" as others fall around us unexpectedly.I'm not the one setting the pass mark. I am more realistic, but the Management and board saw fit to bring in a premiership coach to win a flag and gave him 3 years to do it.
Re: Pass-mark for 2014 Reply #59 – December 13, 2013, 01:18:16 pm Quote from: shadesy on December 13, 2013, 12:53:56 pmQuote from: TheSheik on December 12, 2013, 08:43:39 pmQuote from: DJC on December 12, 2013, 05:59:42 pmThat's my benchmark too Shadesy. Malthouse was employed to win a flag and we have to make this season's GF to have a realistic chance in 2015. Of course, we could exceed expectations and get the job done in 2014 and 2015 The only way we will make the Grand Final in 2014 is if we do a "Bradbury" as others fall around us unexpectedly.I'm not the one setting the pass mark. I am more realistic, but the Management and board saw fit to bring in a premiership coach to win a flag and gave him 3 years to do it. I'd rather them reevaluate based on what they've seen rather than what was expected under a different coach with over a quarter of the list different from when he got here. Not fair but better than them chasing something that isn't realistic.