Good to see Weiters rip into the players in a huddle after the game... loved it.
Crippa sedate during this, does this suggest he's a blue skies and fairy floss positives restricted leader, relying on performance only? I hope not. All good leaders have a spine of zero tolerance for ordinary and never hesitate to voice it, forcefully. Bravo and thank you, Weiters... and later JSOS in his stern, uncompromising words.
And while I'm at it... remember when we were insipid and the players went for an honesty session at Ed Curnow's place. The burning question for me then, and still, is why weren't the coaches involved? That says a great deal. Seems like a group begging for leadership and had to take things into their own hands.
Brisbane 60 Carlton zero in last seasons prelim final and now this debacle vs Richmond.....if we lose to Hawthorn badly where do we go from there if the players cant respond? Dont want to hear about honesty sessions, holding hands, chanting mantras at Ed Curnow's place etc, what is the plan moving forward and if we have to get Cripps ripping into players what does that say about the playing groups mindset and ability to motivate themselves? and yes what are the coaches doing?
There are no excuses for being beaten by Richmond, players injured isn't on given the tigers had players like Prestia, Balta out....it gets worse everytime you analyze the loss. Kennedy and Owies out was always going to bite us short term and they looked good for their new teams but the proof of that trading exercise won't be known for a couple of seasons when Smith has had time to show his wares. Watched a bit of Sid Draper and hard not to be impressed as he came on as the sub and lit up the stat sheet real quick and I feel for Jagga Smith who is going to be under real pressure much like Paddy Dow was to justify the hype and effort to recruit him. Interesting from the recent draft that two mids from outside that top group in Reid and Lindsay had standout games and we would have had the picks to get those players had we not gone down the sell the farm path for pick 3. Hindsight maybe but not common sense...
Worst loss in 30 years according to Riley Beveridge from AFL.com Watched it again and it's more terrible second time around, the lack of football skills and nous coupled with zero idea about how to deliver the ball forward. So many contesting errors where we handed the ball back to Richmond with stupidity and lack of effort.
I cant bring myself to watch it. I'm moving onto this week and praying for a miracle.
Fair enough, we can't play any worse as that was rockbottom so there should be some improvement hopefully.
Worst loss in 30 years according to Riley Beveridge from AFL.com Watched it again and it's more terrible second time around, the lack of football skills and nous coupled with zero idea about how to deliver the ball forward. So many contesting errors where we handed the ball back to Richmond with stupidity and lack of effort.
Unfortunately, we have no elite ball users in our midfield. They send hack kicks into the forward line and more often than not it suits the opposition rather than our side.
Jagga Smith was going to help fix that. Well, not this year......
Also, we had 65 inside 50s on Thursday for 9 goals. And I lost count of the number of marks Richmond took in their defensive 50.
Some things for this week.
(1) Tell Harry to stop wrestling, he is no good at it - instead just put his arms in the air. He'll either mark it, get a free kick, or at least create a crumb. (2) Bring Moir in immediately. We have tried 3 crap small forwards a lot, and it just does not work. (3) Put Doc behind the ball. They need another cool head back there to support Weiters. (4) Our half-forward line is all wrong, it is too small. The ball gets whipped out of there far too easily. McKay CHF so he can get some grabs on the wings, Curnow lurking in the forward 50, and Moir supplying leads. (5) See if we can hit a handball and a kick at training this week. Skill level in the second half was about U16 standard. (6) Matt Carroll in for Haynes. Apart from Saad, our back 6 are slower than statues, and the Hawks can whip that in spades (And where's Boyd?)
Unfortunately, I just don't think we are ready for the Hollywood Hawks at the minute. We are honestly staring at a 0-4 start......
Boyd played in the VFL and did ok I thought, he would be straight in if I was picking the team. Its about picking players who give effort and will bleed for the jumper and thats who I would pick. Haynes is an intercept defender and thats a position we already had cover for, cheating with him at CHB wont work, his disposal isnt good enough to be rebounding the ball and I agree on Carroll who can use the footy. Bombers and Hawks both play that left footed halfback/wings with decent distribution skills and with Newman out we cant have Haynes bringing the ball out of defense.
We had lack of effort, poor contesting and players avoiding getting hit thats even before we start talking dodgy skills, we wont win games with that standard of effort. We have players getting big numbers but doing nothing with those stats apart from filling up the stat sheet and meeting targets for more contract extensions and money. The List Management is woeful and signing players to long term deals who have never produced consistent performances or are injury prone is madness. You reap what you sow and we have an unbalanced list lacking depth with a poor standard of players at the bottom end of that list and I can now understand why a lot of scribes had us missing the finals because we cant be trusted to turn up and try....watched Hawthorn and Essendon play and it was a game played at a much higher standard of skill and effort. The lack of accountability for that embarrassing performance has been poor......we had to cancel the membership drive day planned on SEN because of that rubbish performance and to see Voss using the history excuse of close games with Richmond round 1 and smiling was disturbing. 9 goals to 2 in the second half, he said it was too difficult to ask the players their mindset for the game??? You got to be joking coach....Id be asking, demanding and calling out the non negotiables I expect. No more BBQ's at Ed Curnows, we are not running an encounter group and you dont embarrass the club ever.
Young playing next week is not the answer. 1. He's still no good and 2. Dawks have a midget forward line with only Chol as the lone tall. We need speed to beat these flogs. Oh and about a 200% increase in form
Haw are elite ball users, around the ground and in front of goal, EOS. Conversely, we are the absolute opposite.
Their pace and carry is also something we will struggle with, they dont stop and run in waves and even a quick team like the bombers can't contain them tonight. The small ball forward line is also awkward to match up on and I was happy to see Boyd play in the VFL and do ok so losing a tall or two down back might help us.
Dont believe me? you don't watch football. Hawthorn have played 1 bad game since I want to say May of last year. They play with a foundation of effort, and a system. Their players arent amazing, but they make them look good.
We have played about 3 good one since then and have probably turned up for a half in most of the others.
This is going to be terrible.
Ranking the teams from most wanting to play to do not want to play at all.....Hawks are #1 on the do not want to play list.
We don't match up well against them. Their strengths are our weaknesses.
We will not put in a good effort this week and unless Charlie kicked 8 and singlehandedly wins us the game.
TDK too needs to have a monster game, he was one of our better players but his opposite number in Nankervis was also very good for the Tigers and TDK needs to humble Meek who is a key driver of that Hawks midfield group. Im expecting Charlie and Harry to have big games too, havent given up hope of a win but its hard to get inspired after last nights debacle.
Would’ve liked Elijah out there last night - I wonder how much his absence hurt ?
Both him and Newman were really missed....Elijah would have given us another goalkicker and some relief in the middle. You look at the Tigers mids and you have Taranto and Hopper then it drops away to Ross, Thomson Dow and McIntosh...its not exactly a Rolls Royce midfield and I reckon Elijah would have given us some drive and quality usage. Cerra gets a bit of footy but does he really impact or hurt the opposition, cant remember any forward thrust of note with him involved..
McGovern is b0rked, that missed set shot post final siren did his head in, not sure who has been taking charge of pre-season finishing / goal kicking.
Harry looked lost, McGovern seemed so scared of having a shot he stayed 80m away from the arc.
Jelly legs is contagious, FFS, somebody invent a vaccine!
I would have rucked Harry and got him into the game and saved Cripps from having to ruck and work his ar$e off. Cripps might have been handy resting at FF and maybe sneaking a goal or two and maybe both him and TDK down there with Harry rucking might have made the Tigers think a bit more and change what they were doing. Harry wasnt terrible down forward but he wasnt great either playing on Blight and Miller and the delivery was the usual bomb it on his head and hope for the best rubbish. Newman being out is a bigger loss than most think, he is efficient with the ball and adds a bit of calm. Haynes is the opposite imo, average by foot to the point he cant hit targets or kicks the ball too wide forcing teammates to have to find the ball and then getting trapped and the fumbling of Haynes both with his groundwork and marking is something you dont associate with Newman.
I usually have a bit of time for Dunstall, but his stoic defence of Lynch belting TDK in the jaw with a straight out hip and shoulder was utter diabolic dribble.
In the post match, they (Dunstall and King) started blaming Weitering for pushing Lynch into TDK, they seem to forget the broadcast these days is 4K 100Hz and the slow motion is unequivocal about the amount of force used by players. Dunstall is of course betting the footy ratings on the general public being dead set morons and swallowing the spin.
However, then along comes Christian, he'll probably clear Lynch and ban Weiters for four weeks.
Lynch has form imo for doing dirty stuff and if the AFL are serious about head high hits they will give him a holiday...
Out McGovern Haynes Motlop Evans In Young Curnow Moir Fantasia Doc to HB Ollie to a wing Persist with SOS down back and Kemp up fwd Lord or Campo the sub
Id bring in White for Evans and start him...cant be any worse than Evans, Motlop or Fantasia, Id also play Lemmey instead of Young. If we are moving deckchairs then id prefer some shiny new ones... Id leave L. Campo on a wing and persist with him, I was a bit disappointed in his leg speed, the tiger cub Campbell I think it was burnt him off with the ball and he also made a few errors later in the game but I thought he showed promise and enough to suggest he will be a player.
Well I've seen some horrid losses in my time during some real bleak periods in the history of the CFC but last nights jumped straight to the top of the tree by a long way. Losing to the wooden spooner with a team full of kids after being 41 points up takes the cake. Only the CFC could do that, 16 other teams would have smashed Rich last night. Its very sad to say but as the losses mount, EB was right and Voss will go.
I like Voss and want him to succeed but last night as you say was about as low and as bad we have been for ages and thats saying something. We are either going to hit back hard, smash Hawthorn and reignite the hopes of the fanbase or lose and set ourselves on a path of misery and depression for the rest of the season. Players and coaches need to respond like a good proud club should....
