Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: kruddler – on July 05, 2025, 09:43:08 pm

Must play in coming weeks

He looked great in there. So many clearances.

Question is, the way things are, does he want to play in the seniors....hahaha.

There's this belief that Cripps is injured to account for his lower effectiveness.  I'm wondering if we need to find a different role for him outside the square as he can't get away from contests or buy a kick right now.  How's about playing him as a lead up forward and relief ruck?  Or has his back too far gone?  I'm just thinking that teams seems have come up with a way of completely nullifying him in the square and once the ball leaves the contested zone he's a witches hat.

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on July 05, 2025, 02:17:00 pm

I think other teams have improved, added to their lists and we have gone backwards from 2023, we also look slower as players age and with the heavy contested style we play. We are also the worst field kicking team in the comp and I reckon that translates into poor goal kicking too.
Voss doesn't have as much to work with as we might think. Our young kids are very  slight and raw too, HarryO might be 197cm but has no body strength at all and we can't stick tackles .
I actually saw Pendlebury running away from our mids..a 37 year old.
We could be passed by Nth and Richmond next season, losing Rnd1 to a rebuild kiddie team was an indicator of how tough the league is now. We were fresh but run over by school kids...

Still don't lack talent. 2nd place was less than 12 months ago. Doesn't change that quick surely. Not to the extent one tumbles that far. Fact is, they are not trying. We've seen before how it can change in a week when they put in.

We're have alot of talent but it's useless when most aren't trying. Playing as uselessly as at the end of the Bolton days. We had won 3 from 43. Soon  as we sacked him we beat Brisbane the next week and won 6 from 11. Bet if Voss was sacked this week we'd beat Brisbane next week. Our good players would be suddenly good again, which is a terrible indictment on them. Don't  make a PF then sit 2nd on a ladder for 20 rounds the next year without ability.

Remember near the end of Bolton's term GWS outscored us 7 goals to 1 in the last qtr with 16 men. That's how hard we were trying then. A few weeks later and a new coach and we start winning. As I said  a terrible indictment.

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on July 05, 2025, 07:46:01 am

Out Acres De Koning McGovern Cerra
In Campo Campo Lemmey Charleson/Cincotta

I'd leave those changes for one more week.
Next week won't be a good time for debuts

Buckley was pretty fascinating to listen to after the game, he asked one pertinent question last night, "which players emptied out?"
To me, other than Williams and Hollands, maybe Cowan, probably no one else.

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on July 04, 2025, 06:18:24 pm

Fremantle are building a decent list, a new coach and Cripps as captain and they might be a chance. I think if he stays with us he might be better off resigning the captaincy and just concentrating on playing rather than having to spend his time defending the club off the field every week and it might freshen him up.

I think Cripps is the perfect bloke to defend the club.
His natural laid back nature is able to deflect the questions with a smile on his face. He always looks relaxed which is what you need at present.
Last thing you want is a bloke coming out and saying how hard it is on everyone and it showing on their face and in their body language.

Not sure he'd go to Freo if he left, he was a West Coast man back in the day.

Quote from: PaulP – on July 04, 2025, 05:58:19 pm

I'm sure there are moments when he wonders if it's all been worth it. It won't be for any lack of trying on his part if we don't win that seemingly elusive premiership before he retires.

I cant see a premiership before he retires unfortunately.

It will be the same old BS, Evans will come in, do SFA and go out the following week.

We've seen a roll out of a change in tactics, and it's fine, but it's new and we haven't seen it capably implemented yet at AFL level, we are doing it in bursts and as we go we are learning about opposition countertactics.

For a long time we bemoaned the apparent absence of a Plan B, now we have it some fans want it thrown out because we aren't getting an instant result, but it's new and fans need to be patient.

I'm not nearly as upset about the tactics and coaching as I am about the poor implementation, because where it falls down are in the execution of basic skills.

We only need one or two quick players, or one or two quality bilateral players, and time and space opens up for everybody and you'll see the basic errors diminish. This is what the likes of Daicos, Pendelbury and Sidebottom bring to the Filth.

In the past, our slower endurance and strength based list missed a massive trick, they all should have been incessantly training their offside and the lack of leg speed would be a non-issue, like it's a non-issue for Sidebottom and Pendlebury. If our list had developed 80% of Diesel's handball skills and the same percentage of Scotland's kicking they be laughing, but it's too late as 28 year olds!

The idea that someone like Saad can make it through a whole AFL career and still be effectively a unilateral ball user is a condemnation on our club and the AFL system in general. It's a fundamental high level skill that is almost completely absent in our list.

Given the lack of any announcement from CFC, I guess it means that once again they are not prepared to give Harry Lemmey a try out at AFL level.  If so disappointing!

Ab

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on July 02, 2025, 05:42:46 pm

Agree, but I'm thinking the non chasing Houston was an error as he would have had an instant impact for us.

Probably still be 6 -9.  Our issues are more than that. We have to put a hold on opinions, re Houston, until we see how Jagga, Campo and O'Farrell go. Given our efforts this year we may have got that right. Given our attitude and committment this year Houston would have been a waste. May as well hit the future.