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Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #90
I thought that Fisher's first half was crucial because he was the only one of our midfielders who convincingly beat his opponents and got plenty of the pill.  He may not have laid any tackles but that doesn't mean that he's not defending.  Players are coached to corral opponents rather than overcommitting and Fisher did that very well with his pressure contributing to intercept marks in our defensive 50.
Running along behind an opponent, without using the acceleration that he has when he has the ball, is not going to corral anyone but that is a common trait.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #91
I think Vossy is focused on teaching us how to 'control ' games for wins and part of that is to let teams use up their petrol tickets before we really  turn on our attacking mode.
Agreed - every game we spend periods of time employing the short, slow kick despite the fact that too many of the players are high-risk candidates to turn the ball over.  Nevertheless, this policy is providing the team with an alternative game plan to implement when we need to slow the momentum; an option that we will need from time-to-time.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #92
Honey runs more like a track athlete than a footballer.
That's probably right.
He would have grown up around the track,
Dad was a very good Pole vaulter (Comm. games bronze medallist)  and his uncle a champion long jumper (Olympic silver)

Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #93
The MRO has offered Harry a week off for pushing Sheezel.

Nothing for the bloke who punched Harry in the head or for Zurhaar’s dangerous straight arm to Cerra’s face 🙄

I noticed that our tackles were more vigorous when Zurhaar was the target.  Doc certainly made him pay for the high fend off that wasn’t penalised.

“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

 

Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #94
The MRO has offered Harry a week off for pushing Sheezel.

Nothing for the bloke who punched Harry in the head or for Zurhaar’s dangerous straight arm to Cerra’s face 🙄

I noticed that our tackles were more vigorous when Zurhaar was the target.  Doc certainly made him pay for the high fend off that wasn’t penalised.


"Pushing" is a bit rich DJ
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #95
"Pushing" is a bit rich DJ

Harry has a fair bit of momentum up initially but he puts the brakes on and is almost stationary when he makes contact with Sheezel's shoulder. His arms extend and his left hand slides over Sheezel's shoulder and makes contact with his neck. Harry then throws his arms out and away from Sheezel.  The "expert" comments, "I don't think there's anything to worry about there."  It's the pushing action to the shoulder and neck that upends Sheezel.

If anything, the MRO should commend Harry for doing everything he could to minimise what could have been a very forceful contact.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #96
Harry has a fair bit of momentum up initially but he puts the brakes on and is almost stationary when he makes contact with Sheezel's shoulder. His arms extend and his left hand slides over Sheezel's shoulder and makes contact with his neck. Harry then throws his arms out and away from Sheezel.  The "expert" comments, "I don't think there's anything to worry about there."  It's the pushing action to the shoulder and neck that upends Sheezel.

If anything, the MRO should commend Harry for doing everything he could to minimise what could have been a very forceful contact.
Why didn't he put his arms up in the air immediately when he decided not to tackle?
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #97
Why didn't he put his arms up in the air immediately when he decided not to tackle?
It wasn't malicious and more clumsy, Sheezel got up ok but when a big bloke collects a little bloke it never looks great as any contact however slight sends them flying...my gripe is Zurhaar was punching, fending off to the face /head and got away with it...again...

Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #98
It wasn't malicious and more clumsy, Sheezel got up ok but when a big bloke collects a little bloke it never looks great as any contact however slight sends them flying...my gripe is Zurhaar was punching, fending off to the face /head and got away with it...again...
Im not for a minute suggesting it was malicious EB, I agree it was clumsy, he put both forearms up and collected his head. Whilst I agree with you, incidents involving Zurhaar or other players are totally irrelevant w.r.t Harry's incident.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #99
If that's worth a week Pickett should have been gone for the year and Buddy for 10.  AFL yet again has messed this up - in week one for goodness sake.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #100
Im not for a minute suggesting it was malicious EB, I agree it was clumsy, he put both forearms up and collected his head. Whilst I agree with you, incidents involving Zurhaar or other players are totally irrelevant w.r.t Harry's incident.
Ive said this in another thread, and I think we are better off playing a game without one of Charlie or Harry to understand what else is there just in case, that if he cops a week for that then every single head high contact must be sighted and taken to the tribunal.  Spoils are worse than what sheezel copped from Harry.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #101
We have to stick by our players, a KPP experiment is no reason not to challenge.
The Force Awakens!

Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #102
We have to stick by our players, a KPP experiment is no reason not to challenge.

100% agree, Spotted One. If we have to 'experiment' through necessity (injury/suspension), okay. Otherwise we do everything in our power to support and stick by our lads... and keep the band together (channelling the Blues Bros.). Though I think I get where 3 Leos is coming from in attempting to put a positive on the potential of losing H for a game.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #103
Ive said this in another thread, and I think we are better off playing a game without one of Charlie or Harry to understand what else is there just in case, that if he cops a week for that then every single head high contact must be sighted and taken to the tribunal.  Spoils are worse than what sheezel copped from Harry.

I see what you mean however I think we have been virtually playing with only one of them as Harry was basically not there for the first 3 games, considering his output.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #104
I see what you mean however I think we have been virtually playing with only one of them as Harry was basically not there for the first 3 games, considering his output.

Marking everything in sight in the last 1/4 of the tiggers game wasn’t enough on its own ?
Let’s go BIG !