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Think we should definitely reconsider Casboult's selection - I think, after watching the Swans tonight, I'd prefer to see Duigan back as another midfield rotation who can put his body into the clearances and disputed possessions as well as being an extra defender if needed.

Just wondering, with jack, vickers and Edwards, who plays as the 3rd tall?. Just feel andy mac or Duigan need to play

Quote from: Goat on September 06, 2013, 04:12:11 pm

Don't under estimate M Williams there, he will know exactly what is involved as a coach and mentor.

Let's not forget that Choco coached Port to the biggest loss in a VFL/AFL GF - not bad given that the league is over a 100 years old.  What does it say about your ability to get a side up for a final if your side is smashed from the start and ends up losing by 119 points?  Given that they won the PF by 87 points, that's a massive 206 point turnaround in the GF!!!!!!!

Quote from: laj on September 02, 2013, 12:26:14 pm

We always do best with one and a back up. More often than not we're sh1t with 2. Doesn't add anything. Diminishes Kreuzer's affect as he is not good up forward. He suddenly becomes average if  he's  not first ruck. Collingwood and Richmond will be the same too. Hawthorn will go with 2 out of necessity with Buddy out, meaning Hale needs to spend more time forward. Hawthorn operate  best with Hale, with back up from Roughhead. Not sure the Swans have been as good playing  2 rucks plus Tippett and White. Why would you do  that when white and Tippett can ruck most proficiently. If you're looking to split  between a bloke who can win a few taps and a bloke who can kick a couple of goals you'd go with the latter.

That is old fashioned thinking, Laj. The Swans go with all the big guys because it is their natural advantage and it works, there is no better game plan or team setup, just a winning team that plays to it's strengths.

Like it or not we have a significant ruck advantage over most clubs that we have greatly failed to capitalise on, it is my opinion that we need to engineer the game plan to suit our strengths. It is pointless playing a marking KPF game plan if we have no marking KPF or if we have to bastardise our backline to try and fashion one! I'd rather see two Amigos up forward with a tackling forward like Armfield or Robinson and a tall like Kreuzer or Casboult inside F50 bringing the ball to ground. In my opinion the best football we played this year was early in the season when we had a series of narrow losses to top four sides. All games had combinations of Kreuzer, Rowe, Hampson and Casboult playing bringing the ball to ground from long fast entries of the HBF by the likes of Walker, Tuohy and Gibbs. In addition opposition rucks were being dominated, and all that happened when our midfield was hopelessly out of form! If we added an in form Yarran running off the HBF to that mix I think it would be our most damaging combination.

I am with @EB1 we need both playing plus Casboult but Casboult's performance will be critical. If he puts in another one like the last two we are shot, he could be our most important player this week.

Personally, I think there is Buckley's hope of you blokes convincing MM to drop SpecialK and retain Casboult or Warnock.

If we go in with only one fit ruckmen, that will be SpecialK by a country mile!

If we go in with one ruckmen that is also a losing strategy, not duplicated by any of the other serious finalists.

Hawks will run with two and Roughead as a 3rd option.
Swans could go with up to four ruck options, counting White playing forward as a ruck option with Tippett returning.
Freo will want to have two plus KPPs.
Geelong four capable ruck options.

I cannot believe you took my earlier question seriously!!!

Quote from: LP on September 02, 2013, 11:05:06 am

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on September 02, 2013, 08:04:51 am

Kreuzer had 2 kicks and one handball. Nowhere near good enough for four quarters.

So drop Kreuzer and retain Casboult?

If Kreuzer can't play ruck, absolutely. Kreuzer has zero chance of taking a contested mark, never has and never will.

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on August 28, 2013, 09:35:24 am

There's surely no chance of Richmond losing to the scum, therefore if we make the finals Richmond it will be.

Richmond might rest half their side and hope the roos beat the pies so they can play Port rather than the blues or the roos who beat them last time out.

No interest in this game whatsoever, pretty sure another loss is coming, hoping like hell the Roos get over the line, then the finals get interesting....and that's how it should be. Any other scenario (i.e. us participating in September) makes our elimination final a joke.

If we make finals then we cop the better teams twice next year dont we?....get a worse draft pick as well.....