Carlton Supporters Club

Problem is the natives see us in front of where we were but other teams who started where we were a long way ahead of where we are now. We are not gaining on the pack like we should be.....our progress has to be in excess of the bulk of other teams or we wont catch up.

Your first 4 words nail it.
"Problem is the natives"

"But Liddle said...."
"But i thought...."
"But but but....."

Look at Melbourne. Up and down more than a yo-yo.
The path to success is not linear. No team goes on a smooth, steady path to success. There are ups and downs.

At the start of the year people were pining for Ratten after what he had done with St. Kilda.
There were times when the bombers had leapfrogged us too......then not....now again...

Forget other teams. Focus on us. Focus on our results. Focus on what is available to us on any given match day.

Lods and I always used to point out that one of the best indicators of how good (or bad) a club is going is by looking at their %.
On any given day a bounce of the ball could be the difference between 4 points and 0.
Instead, % shows you how competitive you are across the whole season.

Currently, on the ladder in terms of wins/losses, we are above 5 teams.
However, looking at %, we are above 8 teams.
Once we start to play more of the teams from the bottom half of the ladder our wins will grow....as will our %.

You cant forget the other teams thats the problem, I know success isnt linear always but you need a catalyst to propel you at
a greater rate than the other contenders. eg Petracca and Oliver have gone to the next level. May and Lever our now basically the best duo defensively in the comp....result Melbourne push up the ladder.
I dont see a catalyst for us unless Charlie Curnow comes back firing on all cylinders...

Enough weasel words Kruddler - "percentage says we're improving" is BS and you know it.   Wins are the currency of football and we're not getting enough of them.

Liddle burnt most of his capital knifing SoS and his quote "the time for development is over", well,  let's just say the rank and file have had enough of the marketing spin and without tangible results quickly he'll be down at centre link. 

Blah blah blah blah statistical gobedlygook.   Whatever.  Over it.  If you think we're going to  end up 11-11, bully for you Nostradamus.  Can I have a crystal ball too,  mine's broken.
Also,  you didn't factor in the three losses against teams "we should beat but didn't".   So 8-13 is more likely.

However,  leaving aside pulling predictions from thin air,  in the here and now my eyes see that we're playing poorer footy than 2020.  Last year we beat some good teams (like Geelong), this year we struggle to just beat also rans.  That means we're regressing as a club.  Yes,  GOING BACKWARDS.

To win 11 games this year means we need to win 7 from our last 11. Not what our current percentage of wins shows. Highly unlikely and almost not possible. The only real count of progress must be wins. Not close losses or could have been results. Percentage, loss averages versus previous years form. With West Coast coming off a loss, then GWS, Adelaide, Fred and Geelong, we could easily see no wins in the next 5 games. We better take sh1t seriously at this club. Some fine tuning needs to start soon. Really soon. Otherwise we won’t get the 8 wins for the season we are heading towards. Am I imagining things, or do other clubs better develop their kids? Just asking the question. I start to sense a pattern. A trend. Playing guys who need a rest. Playing players where they don’t play at their best. Not picking the right squad and not coaching the side to win in the final quarter. Not confident in our next encounter. Might just be me being a fool.

Shows your comprehension skills are about as good as your analytical skills. I did factor in a lose a game we should win already.

Tell me since your crystal ball is broken, look at the pieces on the ground and tell me what you think we'll end up at w/l at the end of the year.

To win 11 games this year means we need to win 7 from our last 11. Not what our current percentage of wins shows. Highly unlikely and almost not possible. The only real count of progress must be wins. Not close losses or could have been results. Percentage, loss averages versus previous years form. With West Coast coming off a loss, then GWS, Adelaide, Fred and Geelong, we could easily see no wins in the next 5 games. We better take sh1t seriously at this club. Some fine tuning needs to start soon. Really soon. Otherwise we won’t get the 8 wins for the season we are heading towards. Am I imagining things, or do other clubs better develop their kids? Just asking the question. I start to sense a pattern. A trend. Playing guys who need a rest. Playing players where they don’t play at their best. Not picking the right squad and not coaching the side to win in the final quarter. Not confident in our next encounter. Might just be me being a fool.

No, I feel the same.

Walsh is a freak and came to us ready made but what youth have we developed?  Who can you honestly say, besides H, has improved. Ok weiters is another but then I can’t think of another,

Dekoning is looking good. But then who else?

A few weeks ago, I said we'd go 9-13, not so sure anymore.
It was the week of the Melb game, here were my predictions
Haw W
Syd   L
WC   L
GWS L
Adel W
Fre W
Geel L
Coll   W
NM   W
StK   L
GC W
PA L
GWS L

Win 2 of those games, and we are 11-11.

It must've been an 'up' week for those 2 when you did your predictions.
Both were very average since.

Saints lost by 111.
GWS by 10 goals.