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Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #60 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Petracca was on and I dont think anyone was going to stop him if he got enough supply and it was one on one stuff where he excels like Dusty did at his peak.
We needed to put more pressure on the delivery and get another player across to help out when we could..
Petracca is a cat who chooses when to put in.
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Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #61 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
We needed to put more pressure on the delivery and get another player across to help out when we could..
A nice start would be to stop delivering it to Lever and May on a plater.
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Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #62 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Petracca is a cat who chooses when to put in.
I thought Matt Kennedy did a good job on him in the middle for the first quarter and a half, it was only when he went forward he became a problem. Thought he tried at least unlike one Melb player in Fritsch, talk about lazy, if it wasnt delivered silver service style then he couldnt be bothered chasing or even competing and Goodwin dragged him several times and it was only in the last quarter I saw him making any effort after Petracca had done the hard work.
I thought we had players who were beaten on the night but at least tried, reckon Melb had a few who couldnt be bothered at all or sooked all night ie Gawn.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #63 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
I thought Matt Kennedy did a good job on him in the middle for the first quarter and a half, it was only when he went forward he became a problem. Thought he tried at least unlike one Melb player in Fritsch, talk about lazy, if it wasnt delivered silver service style then he couldnt be bothered chasing or even competing and Goodwin dragged him several times and it was only in the last quarter I saw him making any effort after Petracca had done the hard work.
I thought we had players who were beaten on the night but at least tried, reckon Melb had a few who couldnt be bothered at all or sooked all night ie Gawn.

Vossy said that Kennedy probably did too good a job on Petracca!

It's interesting how the run with player's role normally changes when their opponent is shifted.  I suspect that Kennedy would have continued to get the job done if he had stayed with Petracca.  He has played as a defender recently and knows the structures and patterns.  We would have been a midfielder down, but Melbourne was and we have plenty others to rotate through the midfield.

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Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #64 –
Quote from: LP on
A nice start would be to stop delivering it to Lever and May on a plater.
We didn't do that last night, only May picked off a few when Charlie was out of sorts.
2017-16th
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2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
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2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
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Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #65 –
Quote from: DJC on
Vossy said that Kennedy probably did too good a job on Petracca!

It's interesting how the run with player's role normally changes when their opponent is shifted.  I suspect that Kennedy would have continued to get the job done if he had stayed with Petracca.  He has played as a defender recently and knows the structures and patterns.  We would have been a midfielder down, but Melbourne was and we have plenty others to rotate through the midfield.


Kennedy following Petracca down forward would have been worth a go, in the old days it was common for players to stay on the one opponent all day and follow them into different positions.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #66 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
We didn't do that last night, only May picked off a few when Charlie was out of sorts.
Watch the last 5 or 10 minutes again, Lever ended up with leather toxicity syndrome, closely related to COVID apparently, nobody wanted to go near him except our kickers! ;D
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Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #67 –
Quote from: LP on
Watch the last 5 or 10 minutes again, Lever ended up with leather toxicity syndrome, closely related to COVID apparently, nobody wanted to go near him except our kickers! ;D

Are you sure about that LP?

Lever marked McGovern's kick in from fullback, marked Hewett's kick at CHB, and spoiled Harry's kick into the forward pocket, all in the first 10 minutes of the last quarter.  After that he and Durdin competed for a ground ball which Durdin knocked forward for a stoppage.  Finally, Lever gathered a loose ball between wing and half forward and got a hand pass away.  That was his only touch in the last ten minutes. 

I thought May and McDonald were their most effective defenders in the last quarter but it was the tackle pressure when we were trying to work the ball up the ground that set up Melbourne's opportunities and denied ours, that and some strange free kicks.

Edit:  Just listening to David King explain how we set up to drag Lever away from the contest and force May to do the bulk of the defensive work by himself.  That certainly gels with what I saw.
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Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #68 –
Don't know how Maynard got off driving Owies into the ground last week, it was a very ugly looking tackle.  To say he added mayo is a bit much.  Ditto for the Kemp example.

Straight out faking sh1ts me to tears but some of these tackles look ugly and have the potential to really hurt somebody.  I had images of Neil Sachse with the Owies example.
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Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #69 –
We really only got towelled in the last 10 minutes of this game, not the whole last quarter.  At the 25 minute mark, we were still 20 points in front when they fluked the goal after Viney's knock-back from the behind line.  Then we went into panic mode.

Until then, we were pretty much in control and Melbourne's lack of a forward line meant they needed Petracca to have a career-high 5 goal game to even get close.

Observations.....

* Weitering was great, but had virtually no opposition all night - it won't always be that easy.
* Curnow's best game for the year, I thought - really exposed May's lack of run.  Would have been even better if he'd kicked straight after his screamer
* Harry's quietest game for the year.  I was a bit disappointed with how easily McDonald out-muscled him - and Harry needs to stop playing for free kicks.
* Cincotta is a fast-developing shut down defender.  The best part about this is it should mean that Saad can get more of a free run and not have to worry so much about the other side's best small forward when he returns.
* Crippa was great, but that annoying habit of trying to do too much seems to have returned.  Sometimes, banging it on the boot is the best answer (especially when the game is greasy like last night).
* Walsh - need say nothing more
* McGovern's kicking out of the backline was a welcome sight to see.  He's probably the best kick in the team.
* Martin didn't do a lot, but he has x-factor in spades.  A very hard match-up for defenders.

Over the last 3 weeks, we

- had more scoring shots than Geelong and got umpired out of the game
- should have beaten the reigning premier
- beaten another top-4 contender

All with several key players missing.

Improvements are needed, but if I had offered anyone on this site a 6-3 line after Round 9, I don't think there would have been too many who wouldn't have taken that, especially with Walsh and Weiters missing the first month.







This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #70 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Apparently is live, no delay as is the Ch7 telecast. So just turn it on, mute BT and youre away.

You can also sync the SEN call to the TV, Kayo and Stadium, at the ground.
My radio battery died last night tried it on the app and it worked ok for most of the time, until it dropped out and refused to work again for the rest of the match.

Only problem on the phone is that it chews through the battery like a hot knife through butter, so a charger would be required to listen to the whole match.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #71 –
Channel 7 callers are told to talk up the losing side to keep viewers. Right now BT is pumping up Geelong. He's feeling something lol.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #72 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
Channel 7 callers are told to talk up the losing side to keep viewers. Right now BT is pumping up Geelong. He's feeling something lol.
Disgraceful
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2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #73 –
He just said Port got a goal against the tide lmao
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #74 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
He just said Port got a goal against the tide lmao
Yeah, Geelong piled on one in a row so it was against the tide🙄
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time