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Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #30 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Pies played the big moments well, leading tackle makers were Pendlebury, Nick Daicos and Crisp which would surprise a few people but probably showed even their showboat players like Daicos worked a bit harder than we thought they would.
Both teams had a lot of non contributors but I felt some of ours did nothing at all unlike a few of their quiet stars who at least competed. Backline worries me when Weitering is out of the play and we are relying on the likes of Williams, Young, Cowan and Cincotta. Need Saad and McGovern back to provide stability and Kemp is a better player than all four I mentioned and dropping him was dumb imho. Not the end of the world and when we get our main troops back including Martin and Motlop we will be ok.
Fantasia and Durdin might not as well have been playing as their contributions were zero.....
I though Cincotta did very well on Hill. Of the Ins, I thought he gave us something, they rest were witches hats.
He and Weiters were out best defenders by a very long way. The rest were awful. 
Charlie is an interesting one at the moment. Doing the extraordinary extraordinarily well but is not the basics very poorly. Fumbling, looking slow.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #32 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Pies played the big moments well, leading tackle makers were Pendlebury, Nick Daicos and Crisp which would surprise a few people but probably showed even their showboat players like Daicos worked a bit harder than we thought they would.
Both teams had a lot of non contributors but I felt some of ours did nothing at all unlike a few of their quiet stars who at least competed. Backline worries me when Weitering is out of the play and we are relying on the likes of Williams, Young, Cowan and Cincotta. Need Saad and McGovern back to provide stability and Kemp is a better player than all four I mentioned and dropping him was dumb imho. Not the end of the world and when we get our main troops back including Martin and Motlop we will be ok.
Fantasia and Durdin might not as well have been playing as their contributions were zero.....

Those 2 got 12 touches between then for 0.1. You can't have 2 mall forward literally not touching it.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #33 –
Don't think a loss has hurt this badly since 1999 grand final loss tbh.
..and all went downhill from there.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #34 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Pies played the big moments well, leading tackle makers were Pendlebury, Nick Daicos and Crisp which would surprise a few people but probably showed even their showboat players like Daicos worked a bit harder than we thought they would.
Both teams had a lot of non contributors but I felt some of ours did nothing at all unlike a few of their quiet stars who at least competed. Backline worries me when Weitering is out of the play and we are relying on the likes of Williams, Young, Cowan and Cincotta. Need Saad and McGovern back to provide stability and Kemp is a better player than all four I mentioned and dropping him was dumb imho. Not the end of the world and when we get our main troops back including Martin and Motlop we will be ok.
Fantasia and Durdin might not as well have been playing as their contributions were zero.....

My feelings exactly

Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #35 –
Quote from: pinot on
Don't think a loss has hurt this badly since 1999 grand final loss tbh.
..and all went downhill from there.

That GF loss didn't hurt so much. We spent most of the year being crap and somehow made the GF. Miracle just participating.

Tonight's loss was plainly frustrating. Work rate was poor and still just lost by 6pts. Losses pissed down the drain recently all for the same reason. A minute left and still couldn't hold on for at least a draw. After the way we played I would have taken that, but we managed to stuff that up too.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #36 –
Well we should give a 3rd pick + Williams + 30% of salary to whoever wants to take him.

Enough is enough.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #37 –
Quote from: IvanAwfulbigone on
You do realise we just lost to Collingwood?
Big Picture view....I dont like losing to Collingwood either but we can improve our team with key players who are out injured and removing players who cant be trusted to play finals type footy when you have to. Rather lose now and find out where our weak points are than fall apart at seasons end and have these type of losses pre-finals.
Do our players good to have some pressure on them now and stop believing all the hype in the media with people like David King saying its Geelong, GWS and us as your contenders and the rest are making up the numbers...
We need to get better at playing dirty, tough finals type footy and having more contributors...
 

Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #38 –
Quote from: pinot on
Well we should give a 3rd pick + Williams + 30% of salary to whoever wants to take him.

Enough is enough.

Well he can't defend and should not be in our backline.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #39 –
The Pies are better drilled and trust each other and their systems. We are not there yet, but there is hope.
F#$k I hate losing to Collingwood and I wish we had a Nick Daicos.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #40 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
Well he can't defend and should not be in our backline.

All he can do is run and kick but first year players can do that as well. If he takes a spot over one of the Campo boys I will be livid.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #41 –
Think we’re due for a players meeting at Ed Curnows house. We were outworked, made poor decisions at critical moments and worryingly we seem to have lost the ability to switch the play, shift the opposition defence and then take on the corridor kick.

Our lack of depth and durability is also killing us - we simply can’t keep carrying 6 players who miss a big chunk of most years (Marchbank, McGovern, Williams, Martin, Cunningham, Fantasia) and expect to compete.  4 or more of that group have to go and we should also stamp the papers of Young whilst we are at it.




Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #42 –
Quote from: pinot on
All he can do is run and kick but first year players can do that as well. If he takes a spot over one of the Campo boys I will be livid.

I agree. If he comes back from injury he can fight for Fantasia's or Durdin's spot.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #43 –
I really hope we're not favourites again next week because we are truly just not there yet. Don't know if we'll ever get there with this mob but it would be a shame to waste a generational power forward combination in Harry and Charlie with the rabble that's running around them at the moment.
Having said that "H"'s last kick basically sealed the game for the filth. Could not have had a worse kick if he had of dreamed it. Although and quite honestly they were a better side than us all night. A one goal loss flattered us. If we somehow managed to steal this one, well, we're in great train robbery territory right then and there. Anyway back to our small forwards. The fact that Owies was our most effective says enough. How I yearn for Martin and even Motlop or even better still Fogarty to be back because the likes of Fantasia, Durdin and my man Owies are really just filling up space and wasting air. How the hell Cunningham comes straight back in is baffling and gee I don't get paid a lot of money but I was pretty much right. Anyone else?
Young scares me every time he gets near the ball. Very much like Liam Jones, but worse. Can't believe I'm praying for McGovern and maybe even Marchbank to get back, but there it is. That's we're we are at. Pretenders
Carlton are nowhere near it. All we are is a strain on the heart. Too many softcorks.
I have absolutely no confidence playing any other side other than Norf and the Weagles

Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #44 –
re: Williams......a nervous player when played down back and and when you add Young plus two inexperienced defenders in Cowan and Cincotta it puts a lot of pressure on Weitering to be the glue thats holds the backline together.
I think Williams has to play on the weakest small forward and never on the last line close to goal and my preference if he has to play is on the wing where he use his skillset to carry the ball and deliver and be removed from having to mind a man.
I cant see him in the team when we have our full crew back and ditto for Fantasia and Durdin.