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Re: AFL Rd 6 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #30 –
Looks like Cripps wants to play badly. I'm not all that surprised, but I hope we don't play him if he isn't ready to go. I hate playing half fit players.
Live Long and Prosper!
 

Re: AFL Rd 6 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #31 –
Quote from: RiverRat on
- Silvagni is an excellent contributor against non-ruckman opponents - however, I think we need a better back up ruckman unless the Duckers are similarly limited.
- Newnes performed admirably (especially early) and seemed more dangerous in attack (although he missed some opportunities) than LOB has been - deserves to hold his spot.
- Cottrell was good enough and deserves to hold his spot.
- Parks was passable as our 3rd tall defender but might struggle to hold his spot if a better option is available.

- Martin and Fisher showed up at stages - Durdin and Owies had limited opportunities but consistently delivered pressure when the ball went forward (not so often in the 2nd half) - one of them might get a rest (for team balance) if we need to play a back up ruckman.
- Kennedy has gone off the ball the past 2 weeks but probably has enough credits in the bank to hold his place.



I think Kennedy is a carrying a quad injury. He may well be sitting out if Cripps wasn't already out.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #32 –
Heath Chapman and Hayden Young out with COVID for Freo....that's two of their best medium sized, running half-backs. Some talk over here that there might end up being one or two more before Saturday! There's 3 others but not blokes that are in their starting 22.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #33 –
Every little bit helps :)

Re: AFL Rd 6 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #34 –
Quote from: crashlander on
Looks like Cripps wants to play badly. I'm not all that surprised, but I hope we don't play him if he isn't ready to go. I hate playing half fit players.

Hope he wants to play well, not badly, Crash! :D

Re: AFL Rd 6 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #35 –
Quote from: WASurfer on
Heath Chapman and Hayden Young out with COVID for Freo....that's two of their best medium sized, running half-backs. Some talk over here that there might end up being one or two more before Saturday! There's 3 others but not blokes that are in their starting 22.
Been talk that Luke Ryan might also be doubtful, cant see Freo being able to compete if they lose too many players to CoVid, they just dont have the depth IMO and this might be good timing for us to steal an away win which has been rare in recent years.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #36 –
Remember, Lachie Schultz is presumably returning after a week on H&S Protocol. Griffin Logue, a 194cm defender, would be a possible in given that he was very unlucky to lose his spot last week after being in the best against the Giants.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #37 –
EB....their backline is probably one area where they have multiple options to cover a few players out. Joel Hamling hasn't been able to get a game and Griffen Logue was dropped for last week despite getting votes in the AFLCA Award the week before. They've also still got Ethan Hughes and Nathan Wilson who were previously regulars in their back half. Logue will probably come back in this week.

Pearce and Cox down back will be much harder for McKay and Curnow compared to what they had to deal with last week. But it all comes down to the work in the middle. When we've been firing in first/second quarters, it's been out of the middle quickly and into the tall forwards....it's where the 6/6/6 rule works IMO.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #38 –
Quote from: WASurfer on
EB....their backline is probably one area where they have multiple options to cover a few players out. Joel Hamling hasn't been able to get a game and Griffen Logue was dropped for last week despite getting votes in the AFLCA Award the week before. They've also still got Ethan Hughes and Nathan Wilson who were previously regulars in their back half. Logue will probably come back in this week.

Pearce and Cox down back will be much harder for McKay and Curnow compared to what they had to deal with last week. But it all comes down to the work in the middle. When we've been firing in first/second quarters, it's been out of the middle quickly and into the tall forwards....it's where the 6/6/6 rule works IMO.
Surfie, Hamling is a good footballer going by his work for the Dogs and Wilson also handy.Havent seen as much of Logue but he was an early pick from memory and a good size as Mav suggested.
Chapman and Young are more the good kicking rebound type and I was thinking it's that rebound and setting up play further up the ground that might be missed and Ryan is their key intercept player.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #39 –
It'll be a clash of styles. We are now a contested ball team. Our centre square crew tries to win the ball from the centre bounce or stoppages around the ground with quick kicks to Harry and Charlie. Freo bases its game around turnovers and it then spreads wide, developing overlaps that allow it to run the ball up to F50. Freo rarely goes back down the line after an intercept. They bust their balls to keep width for a fast switch.

If we can keep the ball in and around contests, we'll have the advantage. If Freo is able to keep the ball in the open, then they have the advantage. Unfortunately, the Freo gameplan is pretty much what Hawthorn used against us in the last 3 quarters. 

I said a while back that Brayshaw is their Cripps. Having looked at some of their games, that's wrong. He's more like Sam Walsh. Brodie is more like Cripps. At centre bounces, Brayshaw tends to play the sweeper/shoulder position behind his ruckman. The ball is tapped to Brodie or Serong and Brayshaw waits for an opportunity to take a handball receive. He's not just a receiver though - he's a hard nut as much as Sam Walsh is and like Walsh runs hard. Gerard Healy suggests he's a weapon on the turnover as he runs forward and creates an overlap forcing defenders to come up to him. Frederick is important in this regard as well as he has serious pace but also a good tank. He can happily come up to the wing and in the blink of an eye he's back at the feet of the tall forwards. Gerard Healy suggests Frederick's opponents should stay goal side of him for fear of him losing them on the way back. Obviously, Lachie Shultz is creative once the ball hits the deck and Michael Walters is still a good player in general play even if his goalkicking radar has inexplicably gone haywire.

Losing 2 of their rebounding defenders will disrupt their game to some degree, if only because stability in the back 6 is critical. Freo have worthy replacements but the cohesion built up over the last few weeks won't necessarily be there even with experienced inclusions such as Logue and Wilson.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #40 –
Spot on EB. Logue was a top 10 draft pick albeit somewhat of a surprise as he was thought of more as an athlete rather than an elite footy player as a junior...but yes, a good size and would be someone that would likely go against Silvagni when he's forward. But you're right, Young is elite by foot and Chapman has been excellent in the first 5 weeks also so it'll take a bit of their clean kicking skills out which helps us....which means I wouldn't be surprised if Nathan Wilson comes back in to replace one of them and Logue to replace the other.

Pearce and Cox will get the jobs on McKay/Curnow.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #41 –
Agreed Mav....their small/medium forwards could tear us apart if we're as loose defensively as we've been. Schultz is a dynamic player and goes really hard at it. Him, Fredericks and Walters as you mentioned but Switkowski is also very dangerous. It wouldn't surprise me to see Plowman come back in this week and even Stocker too even though his VFL game last week was quiet from all accounts? I think Parks might go out as he's playing more that third tall which we might not need as much this week.

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Reply #42 –
Yep, Switkowski is one of the 3 express paced guys along with Frederick and Collier. Saad has the pace to go with any of them, but it'll be a challenge for Newman and the Doc. It's pretty easy to see how we might come unstuck in this one.

What we can't do is what Essendon did. Their midfield gave up chasing after half time, turning a game that was in the balance halfway through the 3rd quarter into a cakewalk. Parrish has been highlighted for one passage of play in particular where he was prepared to run when Essendon had the ball on the wing only to drop to a slow jog while an opponent ran out of the contest towards F50. We have some form in this regard and there were a few similar clips shown of our defensive efforts last year.

Unless we pressure their mids as they come forward, we'll suffer the same fate as Essendon. Taberner is like a forward version of Weitering. He doesn't do much that's flashy, but he's very good at doing the basic things. He leads well and is comfortable taking marks on the run with his arms straight out towards the ball. Being 198cm, that makes spoiling him very difficult. Weitering is smart enough to stop him from getting the simple leads he did against Laverde, but if their mids are given enough latitude to wait until Taberner gets free and our mids don't drop back to fill the holes, Weitering will have a hard day at the office. He has improved his kicking out of sight and kicked 7 straight. That flatters him a bit as he got 2 from free kicks, including one around the point post when Parrish was penalised for having a crack at the umpire in the centre of the ground. But he kicked 2 from basically the boundary line using the Stevie J, including 1 on his opposite foot. Lobb is also very happy to take marks on the lead as well as being a handful if the ball comes in long.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #43 –
Watch out for a kid called ODriscoll for Freo, left footed mid who can get his own ball and also play on the outside.
Had a bit of ball vs Essendon and was a player I liked pre draft.
Think he will be a decent player for Freo and part of their new midfield setup post Fyfe,Mundy etc..

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Reply #44 –
Very good player EB....recruited from my club Perth in the WAFL. From memory his sister plays AFLW too. He's snuck under the radar a bit for sure.