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It's only one game, and against the reigning premiers. I don't expect any changes except those forced by injury. Can't understand the calls for McKay to play, seen him play a few times now and he offers nothing at this stage. If he gets picked now without getting some form and confidence in the VFL he'll just be the next whipping boy!

...which is where this whole weitering debate started for me.

What is better for our development?
Getting games into kids and coming out with an honourable loss?
or
Picking the side that gives you the best chance of winning (still heavily stacked with kids) and beating the premiers?

Overall, benefit to the team as a whole, it has to be the latter. Yet, it seems people are fixated with the former....coaches included.

I honestly don't believe we picked sides to win every game last year.
We'll have to wait a few games into this season before we make a judgement.

At some point "selecting to win" must be the priority...you can only test the supporters patience for so long.
Having said that though....what selections would have made a difference to the result last night.
I cant think of any.

and 115 from 138 in his career.

Which is not relevant for the comparison you were making.

How do you figure that? Over everyones career, what i said was true.

Its like saying we have no premiership players on our list, because Daisy winning at the pies doesn't count somehow. Bizarre comment.

You been skipping over all my posts then.

Weitering out (no matchup)
Cunningham in (extra midfield rotation) - covers the loss of Kennedy early, an extra small rotation so we don't run out of legs late

I really don’t get the criticism of Weitering and SOJ.  

The former was made to look bad by our other defenders pushing up the ground and leaving him (and Jones) exposed.  Some of Weitering’s work on the last line of defence was outstanding.

SOJ had a hard night but worked his butt off as usual.  His fortunes rely more on the work of our midfield than his own efforts.  However, I’d like to see him spend more time in the midfield where his footy smarts can come to the fore.

I really don’t get the criticism of Weitering and SOJ.  

The former was made to look bad by our other defenders pushing up the ground and leaving him (and Jones) exposed.  Some of Weitering’s work on the last line of defence was outstanding.

SOJ had a hard night but worked his butt off as usual.  His fortunes rely more on the work of our midfield than his own efforts.  However, I’d like to see him spend more time in the midfield where his footy smarts can come to the fore.

Agree with this 100 percent. We were all crying out to be more attacking. Well guess what, if you push everyone further forward and then turn the ball over, you leave 1 or 2 defenders stranded, and it was very noticeable at the game last night that they pushed forward after a turnover harder than we pushed back, hence Weitering and Jones were often outnumbered and under way too much pressure. If you want to be higher scoring, this is the price you pay, it makes it a skill contest, and we lost. Silvagni worked his butt off, disrupted a lot of what they wanted to do, and got very ordinary service from our midfield, but he did run very hard to create space for his teammates. No doubt he's one of our best forwards atm

A lot of truth in what you say JB. We were caught out a lot by our focus on pushing forward i.e. doing what we were crying out for last year and trying to move the ball forward quickly. Only one game and we'll no doubt get better at executing this style of play. The Tigers were also pretty good at feeding off our mistakes and rebounding quickly.