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Docherty is not slow

B   Dylan Buckley   Michael Jamison   Sam Rowe
HB   Kade Simpson   Lachie Henderson   Chris Yarran
C   Dale Thomas   Bryce Gibbs   Mark Whiley
HF   Levi Casboult   Liam Jones   Jason Tutt
F   Troy Menzel   Andrew Walker   Kristian Jaksch
R   Matthew Kreuzer   Marc Murphy   Chris Judd
IC   Clem Smith   Blaine Boakhorst   Andrejs Everitt
   Zach Tuohy

Premium on pace with Smith, Boakhorst, Tutt and Whiley have to be given priority over Carrazzo, Ellard, Bell and Cripps, etc. to start the season.

Everitt, Touhy and Jaksch are probably borderline selections with around 15 players pushing for those 3 spots.

Looking at this team compared to the one that ran Geelong close in round 21 -

OUT:

Brock McLean (slow)
Andrew Carrazzo (slow)
David Ellard (slow)
Dennis Armfield
Jarrad Waite (slow)
Cameron Wood (slow)
Nick Graham (slow)
Sam Docherty (slow)
Tom Bell (slow)
Ed Curnow (slow)
Ciaran Sheehan

9 slow.

IN:

Lachie Henderson
Clem Smith (fast)
Matthew Kreuzer
Blaine Boakhorst (fast)
Jason Tutt (fast)
Liam Jones (fast)
Mark Whiley (fast)
Andrew Walker (fast)
Kristian Jaksch
Andrejs Everitt
Dylan Buckley (fast)

Turnover of half the team - including 7 genuinely fast players coming in.

Walker in his advancing years should now be left at full forward as he is clearly our best/only full forward. Likewise Henderson is our best CHB and needs to be left there for the full year. Swingmen are desperation stuff. If Rowe can be left on the 3rd opposition fwd I think it could benefit the team in a big way.

Tutt and Smith coming into the forward half along with Walker and 3 genuine talls plus Menzel gives us something the opposition really won't like dealing with. Looks more interesting than Ellard/Waite/etc.

What is it with people trying to say Curnow is slow? He is our best run with player, with a player like Cotchin we need Curnow to go with him. He'd be one of the first picked every game.

Quote from: Raydan on December 10, 2014, 06:53:17 pm

What is it with people trying to say Curnow is slow? He is our best run with player, with a player like Cotchin we need Curnow to go with him. He'd be one of the first picked every game.

Whilst I agree with you Raydan, I do find it a little sad that OUR FIRST picked is Curnow. By this I mean that most of the contenders first picked would be an attacking weapon. Ours is an elite runner who is a good run with player but with limited other attributes/skills. Yes his attitude and work ethic is first rate or elite but...

Problem with Curnow is the he does nothing else but tag and lacks an offensive game....the best taggers I have seen like a Cameron Ling work both ways...players like Jordan Lewis and Dan Hanneberry can tag and get a kick and we need something better than Curnow if we are to prosper.
I hope Whiley can bring an offensive game along with his tackling/tagging work and give us another player who can get the ball 25 plus times a game.....
Its very hard to carry one dimensional players these days....

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on December 10, 2014, 08:12:21 pm

Problem with Curnow is the he does nothing else but tag and lacks an offensive game....the best taggers I have seen like a Cameron Ling work both ways...players like Jordan Lewis and Dan Hanneberry can tag and get a kick and we need something better than Curnow if we are to prosper.
I hope Whiley can bring an offensive game along with his tackling/tagging work and give us another player who can get the ball 25 plus times a game.....
Its very hard to carry one dimensional players these days....

I have to disagree EB; Curnow often racks up impressive disposal (and tackle) numbers while blanketing his opponent.  However, I think that we don't get always good value from his disposals.  I'm not sure that it's really down to him; giving him support and more and better options to target could improve his effectiveness.

I reckon that Curnow would be as good as, if not better than Lewis if he was playing for the Hawks.

Why did we get Tutt, Dick, Smith, Boakhorst, etc?

Why did the recruitment manager state that he was under instruction to address the need for outside speed?

We played Curnow, Brock, Bell, Ellard, Carrazzo, etc. all in the same team last year. And it cost us.

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on December 10, 2014, 08:12:21 pm

Problem with Curnow is the he does nothing else but tag and lacks an offensive game....the best taggers I have seen like a Cameron Ling work both ways...players like Jordan Lewis and Dan Hanneberry can tag and get a kick and we need something better than Curnow if we are to prosper.
I hope Whiley can bring an offensive game along with his tackling/tagging work and give us another player who can get the ball 25 plus times a game.....
Its very hard to carry one dimensional players these days....

I have to disagree EB; Curnow often racks up impressive disposal (and tackle) numbers while blanketing his opponent.  However, I think that we don't get always good value from his disposals.  I'm not sure that it's really down to him; giving him support and more and better options to target could improve his effectiveness.

I reckon that Curnow would be as good as, if not better than Lewis if he was playing for the Hawks.