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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Things Fall Apart.
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
What happened:
- Changed HP guy - training is clearly different, is it better or worse? Too early to tell but right now, we aren't running out games, last year we finished games like trains. Is this fatigue in the second half affecting ball use and decision making?

- Lost 30-40 goals - Between Owies, Martin (when not injured) and Kennedy, we have lost some fire power up forward.

- We need Curnow and McKay in the same side preferably both firing or at least causing headaches for defenders.

They are the main items for me.
How about the recruiting?....sold the farm for Smith, and recruited numpties like Evans and Haynes and gave away two competent players in Owies and Kennedy. And now we have to watch some of these younger teams move ahead of us like Hawthorn have done.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Things Fall Apart.
Think we are being kind to the list management crew and absolving them from blame when in IMHO they are clearly under the microscope and changes need to be made. Its a list of a few Chiefs who all need to be happy and firing every week, not just taking it in turns and then a long line of Indians who tail away badly after the first few.
You throw that in with Voss not being the best match day tactical coach and that gives him less levers to pull and we are scarily on the edge of another total rebuild.
No point sacking the coach, recruiters or saying everything is fixed with a win vs the Pies either and its going to be a long tedious season until we can review the season properly when its over but there has to be a point where the club have to tell the supporters we have failed in rebuilding this club and will need to go again.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG
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Blues vs Pies games don't get decided by ladder position form, recent history and I still give us a chance to win the game.
Pies will be favourites and probably feeling a bit cocky and good about their chances but it usually isn't pretty footy and if we can catch them off guard there will be an upset imo.

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Our record against these pricks is very poor.
Not great but could also mean we are due.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG
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Quote from: pinot – on
Well we might win one or two more after we lose this one and go into the mid season bye with 9 losses and 3 wins.... then what?

Absolutely must win this match.

Whilst this match looks as a must win match, we need to look beyond that point somewhat.  This season is looming as a loser for a multitude of reasons, but currently we need to focus less on results and more about method, organisation and the fundamentals tied to future success.

I've often wondered about our team brand of football, and this is the season to focus on it with so many star players completely out of form (or completely out of the team) and get the systems to stack up for next season.

I'm sick of being a team that relies on a pool of 5 to 10 players to play good footy and would prefer our 20 odd top enders stand up.
Yep relying on too you few to win games is a problem, our Indians are low quality and we keep adding more .
We are getting to the stage of a rebuild based around the Campo's, Smith, Cody Walker, Harry Dean etc, think we have missed the boat with list management and need a list manager who can pick the right support players and backups for our star players some of whom have faded with over work imo.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG
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had 5 kicks for the game.  Suspect the knock was a contributing factor but 21 disposals handball heavy and 8 tackles suggests he's carrying something.

I said earlier he appeared to have some padding under his jumper.
Looked like a binder to protect part of his abdomen.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG
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Was Cripp's effectiveness affected by that heavy landing on his 'coccyx' during the game.
Taking a form line through the Bulldogs with a little more efficiency and a similar effort we are a chance.
had 5 kicks for the game.  Suspect the knock was a contributing factor but 21 disposals handball heavy and 8 tackles suggests he's carrying something.

Been carrying an entire team..hope we haven't Judded him and can he keep playing at such a high level.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Think we tried hard but don't have the extra talent once other teams reestablish themselves in the game.
At half time I knew we were in trouble as they were mounting a comeback and we struggle when teams fightback and we capitulate eventually.
Kemp was probably a positive in a game where goals were hard to get, and Cripps, TDk plugged away with Weitering and Jack containing Darcy and Naughton.
Sad to see Kennedy in a Dogs outfit and our mate Liam Jones would have been handy too, still got no idea why Evans and Haynes were recruited....
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
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I cannot believe how underdone we look.  Some of the other teams are playing out of their brains, while we try to remember how to play footy again.

What are we not doing over summer?

Someone will be able to confirm for sure, but i seem to remember that we were focussing on power this off-season.
It seems to be at the expense of our endurance.
I think when you are a slow team and you tire the endurance angle gets magnified, not sure our players have over powered anyone yet either apart from TDK who looks to have got stronger.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
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Was hoping to face the Doggies without Lobb, was sure he would go for the hit on Cox. 'Accidental', I didn't think that was an excuse when you hit head high,  and especially when you draw blood.
That outcome was probably set the moment the commentators started calling it as "He missed the footy", but it didn't look like a realistic attempt to me.

Some of you will recall when Enright missed the footy by about a metre and cleaned up Warnock, Enright wasn't even reported either!

We've seen some seriously bizarre decisions this weekend, it's the new world we live in!
Lobb is a large human but has never been known for violent play or anything nasty in my memory and in fact has probably been accused of being more on the timid side for a player of his dimensions so it would be out of character for him to belt Cox deliberately  imho and Id be prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt on the intent factor.
Its whether any head high contact including accidental is automatically a suspension or is each case judged on merit and more likely the past history of the players involved?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL 2021 Rd 1: Carlton vs Box Hill at Carlton
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After two rounds and not a huge sample size - points against + clearances + stoppages + contested football is top four and only GWS is better.



It is a little strange, isn't it.
Statistically we were superior to Richmond in most important areas
We matched it with the Hawks

But there was one glaring area of weakness
"Efficiency"
You get that when your players cant hit targets especially under pressure and the default game plan is bomb it on the heads of our forwards. We dont have many good kicks in the team and thats been the case for a while and some of our better players are in that category.... 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Young is a dud but so is Haynes but Young has the height we need to at least get close to Darcy although it will need  double team help from someone like McGovern to restrict Darcy so Id be dropping Haynes and id probably give Lucas Campo a rest too.
Boyd and Harry back in and hoping Charlie is a bit fitter this week. Dogs have the big talls up front but so do we and Harry will probably get slugger Lobb for company and Charlie might get Khamis/O'Donnell and thats where we can take advantage if we can get the ball down forward often enough. Treloar, Weightman, Bont, Jones, JJ is a fair bit of talent missing and if we cant knock them over this game we never will.
Bevo is equally under pressure like Voss and who ever loses is probably going to be the media's coach of the week whipping boy so Im expecting our star players to take advantage of the Dogs lack of stars and give Voss some relief and at least some confidence heading into the Collingwood game which will be an epic struggle imo.
Blues by 17 points over the Dogs...