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Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #90 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Selwood forces the tacklers arms up by lifting them with his, he uses strength he rarely ducks (IMO). The filth prick folds his knees the instant he is touched and goes to ground. He is a cheat.
Selwood drops at the knees, you'll see 3 perfect examples of it in the replay of last weekends game.
 
The Force Awakens!

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #91 –
And watch Selwood lodge a claim against the AFL in years to come as a result of the numerous concussions he's "suffered". If they're as serious about the concussion issue as they claim, the umpires just don't pay those free kicks to the likes of Ginnivan where they deliberatly instigate the head high contact....by whatever method....in a few weeks they'll stop doing it. Michael Walters is another one always trying to milk high contact frees and in The West after the weekend loss to Sydney where a review of each player was reported, the journo said something along the lines of "needs to stop playing for free kicks". The umpires are a wake up to him too.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #92 –
Selwood gets away with it because he is seen as the footballers " footballer", Ginnivan is a show pony lair only loved by his mum and Collingwood fans and doesnt have the same respect in terms of runs on the board and has been highlighted as a staging artist.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #93 –
AFL Statement today:

“We want to be clear, if the umpire believes the ball carrier is responsible for the high contact, then they won’t be rewarded.

“First and foremost, players attempting to win the ball must be protected and the onus of duty of care is on the tackler. However, having won the ball, the ball carrier has a duty of care to not put themselves in a position for high contact.

“Ultimately, the rules do not reward players for putting themselves in vulnerable positions to draw a free kick. This is something we prefer not to see in our game at any level.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #94 –
Quote from: WASurfer on
AFL Statement today:

“We want to be clear, if the umpire believes the ball carrier is responsible for the high contact, then they won’t be rewarded.

“First and foremost, players attempting to win the ball must be protected and the onus of duty of care is on the tackler. However, having won the ball, the ball carrier has a duty of care to not put themselves in a position for high contact.

“Ultimately, the rules do not reward players for putting themselves in vulnerable positions to draw a free kick. This is something we prefer not to see in our game at any level.
Be a novelty seeing players like Selwood go unrewarded for staging high contact for a few weeks but then it will revert to normal viewing and umps will be paying the name players a free for staged high contact and letting the no name players get their heads ripped off under the guise they are cracking down on stagers..

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #95 –
That's probably the frustrating part I guess EB....if they applied the same rules to everyone, including Selwood, instead of just making an example of one bloke like Ginnivan, we could live with the rule whether you agree with it or not.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #96 –
Quote from: LP on
Selwood drops at the knees, you'll see 3 perfect examples of it in the replay of last weekends game.
 
Wanganeen was a classic at doing this
2024... Moir of the same to come

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #97 –
Quote from: WASurfer on
AFL Statement today:

“We want to be clear, if the umpire believes the ball carrier is responsible for the high contact, then they won’t be rewarded.

“First and foremost, players attempting to win the ball must be protected and the onus of duty of care is on the tackler. However, having won the ball, the ball carrier has a duty of care to not put themselves in a position for high contact.

“Ultimately, the rules do not reward players for putting themselves in vulnerable positions to draw a free kick. This is something we prefer not to see in our game at any level.


I have posted similar decade or so ago based on similar statements.

Once upon there was a rule that said "If a player with he ball contributes to the high tackle, then no free kick shall be awarded for high contact"
I used to point this out in the same way the AFL is doing now, to stop players like Ginnivan (in my case Selwood) from 'earning' free kicks by "contributing" to the high contact.

AFL swept it under the carpet, because, Selwood, and now are trying to dig it up again.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #98 –
Quote from: WASurfer on
AFL Statement today:

“We want to be clear, if the umpire believes the ball carrier is responsible for the high contact, then they won’t be rewarded.

“First and foremost, players attempting to win the ball must be protected and the onus of duty of care is on the tackler. However, having won the ball, the ball carrier has a duty of care to not put themselves in a position for high contact.

“Ultimately, the rules do not reward players for putting themselves in vulnerable positions to draw a free kick. This is something we prefer not to see in our game at any level.
The Full AFL statement contains this table, shrugs (ie Selwood) should be play on.

2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #99 –
Quote from: WASurfer on
AFL Statement today:

“We want to be clear, if the umpire believes the ball carrier is responsible for the high contact, then they won’t be rewarded.

“First and foremost, players attempting to win the ball must be protected and the onus of duty of care is on the tackler. However, having won the ball, the ball carrier has a duty of care to not put themselves in a position for high contact.

“Ultimately, the rules do not reward players for putting themselves in vulnerable positions to draw a free kick. This is something we prefer not to see in our game at any level.

Have you seen the examples? Pickett didn't even duck, it was just a poor tackle.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #100 –
One free kick to Pickett involved him running towards goal when he was tackled on the upper arm. He then raised his arm to the sky, forcing the tackler’s arm over his shoulder. He then threw his legs forward as if he’d been coathangered. It would have been hard for an umpire to deconstruct the incident without a slow-mo replay. But when the slow-mo replay was shown on Fox Footy, it was plain as day that he’d milked a free kick. Play-on should have been the initial call followed by a holding the ball call as Pickett was committed to acting as if he’d been hit by a train and he made no attempt to dispose of the ball.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #101 –
This one is running away from goal. The AFL are using it as an example of a free kick that shouldn't have been paid. Who ever came up with that should be fired.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #102 –
Not sure whether it was towards goal or not but the rest was clear as day. If we’re talking about the same incident (and there wouldn’t be too many coathanger-type tackles against Pickett given how hard it was to put a hand on him), there’s no way it should have been paid to Pickett.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #103 –
I have watched it 3 times from all the angles they show and it's not a duck. It was a high tackle.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #104 –
In the words of the Duke (and Buddy Holly)

"Selwood being free kicked for dropping....That'll be the day ::)

We'll see how it goes but it's just another 'complicated judgement' call the umpire has to make....and I suspect they'll get it wrong as often as they get it right.