Carlton Supporters Club

Kade Simpson

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A somewhat entitled playing group who only do as much as they feel necessary, and are often resistant to new coaches and new ideas?
A group of individuals rather than a team.

Oh...and the board.
But any changes to coaches that have been made, have been made at the right time.
What is in dispute is the folks they put into the job.

It's personal, not coaching.

Wrong.

The one, true constant over that time....

The supporters.
The arrogant, entitled, success driven, impatient, supporters. All of which are poor character traits to have in the modern game.

Perhaps we are victims of our own success? Perhaps we exert to much pressure on the board at the wrong time.


....and before you wet yourself because you are ROFLMAOing......let me add this. Some 'supporters' are more arrogant, entitled, success driven and impatient than others.....and some 'supporters' have more say in the day to day business than others.

THAT is our true achillies heal.

I was arguing with someone the other day about our off-field being in the best place it has been over the past 2 decades. Thier response was something along the lines of, but does that get us wins? I gave examples of 'improved brand' which ultimately leads to a better, more attractive football club which will give more wins.

However, what i forgot to mention was this.
Clearing our debt and improving our overall finances has a second, perhaps more important benefit.
That is, getting 'the bankers of our back'. We no longer need to bow down to external pressures by some 'supporters' at the threat of losing income if we ignore their wishes.

We are free from our 'supporters' for the first time in 20 years.

With that in mind....lets ride out the storm and see what benefits that gives us....and we won't see a direct benefit this year.

Wrong.

The one, true constant over that time....

The supporters.
The arrogant, entitled, success driven, impatient, supporters. All of which are poor character traits to have in the modern game.

Perhaps we are victims of our own success? Perhaps we exert to much pressure on the board at the wrong time.


....and before you wet yourself because you are ROFLMAOing......let me add this. Some 'supporters' are more arrogant, entitled, success driven and impatient than others.....and some 'supporters' have more say in the day to day business than others.

THAT is our true achillies heal.

I was arguing with someone the other day about our off-field being in the best place it has been over the past 2 decades. Thier response was something along the lines of, but does that get us wins? I gave examples of 'improved brand' which ultimately leads to a better, more attractive football club which will give more wins.

However, what i forgot to mention was this.
Clearing our debt and improving our overall finances has a second, perhaps more important benefit.
That is, getting 'the bankers of our back'. We no longer need to bow down to external pressures by some 'supporters' at the threat of losing income if we ignore their wishes.

We are free from our 'supporters' for the first time in 20 years.

With that in mind....lets ride out the storm and see what benefits that gives us....and we won't see a direct benefit this year.

I get the proposition you are putting, but it still doesn't stop me from feeling as though I've been trapped in Groundhog Day with no happy ending in sight.

Tell me one coaching change over the last twenty years you didn't agree with Kruddler.
I'll give you Brittain...but no others.
Their time had come.

I actually have no problems with the off-field admin stuff, we're going  OK.

Like any banker has any sway over CFC when the Pratts and Mathiesons rule the roost....

Clearly you've never worked in the finance world Kruddler.

The Pratts piss CFC's historic debt down the sink daily....

It is and was a non issue.

Liddle? Likes his mates....

The right fit for CFC?

How many years in the job now? Has anything changed onfield?

Nada.

Fail.

Never said it was easy.

I dunno, maybe its just me, but i seem to be able to make decisions without emotion.....after some time to reflect...and i try and look at the facts at hand and make a call based on that. I'm aware not everyone can do similar. But i implore people to think a little first before reacting. We are too guilty of striking first and asking questions later.

I like to think I can do the same.  I acknowledge that we have injury problems that affect team selection.  That being said, there can be no getting away from the fact that the full list has too many passengers - some without the necessary skills to ever be part of a successful side and others with skills who want to play "nice" football - who are holding us back in moving  from an "also ran" team to a serious contender.

Just further to that and on reflection....
There seems to be this idea that the players, admin and board are separate from the members and supporters.
That the latter have no right to an input or to voice their views on the running of the club.
That we should just shut-up and let them get on with it.
That's not happening.

The performance of the Carlton football club means a lot more to these "arrogant, entitled, success driven, impatient" supporters than any fly-by-night administrator and arguably the majority of the players, many of whom grew up supporting other teams.

For some it's a lifelong love, passion and commitment.
Cradle to the grave stuff.
Their greatest desire is for the success of the club.
Overwhelmingly the comments made on this site and other Carlton forums are made by passionate Carlton people who want to see us better.
They've probably earned a right to their point of view, members through financial support, and other supporters through their devotion to the club.