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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Brownlow Medal 2022
Vossy didn't look too impressed. I realise he may prefer more private celebrations but geeez... Looked like he was keeping an eye on someone sitting on his right. Who knows.

Hope he enjoys a well earned celebration with our rippa skippa

I think Voss may have a word to Charlie about his choice of guest. ;)
Apparently his mate made a bit of a goose of himself.

"I want to be sober this time next year" said Cripps.
He'll want to be, he'll have a game top play the next weekend. ;D
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Brownlow Medal 2022
Well what about that.
Picked up some where he wasn't expected to, but missed on a few votes in games like the Richmond, where he should have got the three.
Congratulations.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Brownlow Medal 2022
Stop the count we'll take the second and equal third. ;D

(It'll be tough for Cripps not picking up the 3 in the Richmond game)
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: RIP Queen Elizabeth II
That's the problem though....
We're stuck in this situation where to prevent offence to one group you often cause offence to another.

At the centre of it all is this anger and rage.
Now there is often complete justification for that anger
But anger and rage is a major part of the problem.
It only hardens the views of both proponents and opponents.
Use derogatory words to make your point...
Attack the views of others with emotive language and you won't win them over.
It has the opposite effect.
It reinforces and hardens attitudes.

Folks like Gandhi and MLK had the right idea....but push that non aggressive line and that'll probably get you assassinated


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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: RIP Queen Elizabeth II
It's all a bit strange and confusing...and as usual is a discussion that has folks with strong and opposing views.

I've seen the Aboriginal flag flown at half mast in various places in the last 24 hours.
I'm sure there have been some uncomfortable with that, but it doesn't seem to have caused a lot of fuss.
There may have been some complaints.
I haven't seen them.

A minutes silence may have caused some angst during an indigenous round.
Not having a minutes silence has also caused a problem.
...and it seems some indigenous leaders recognise the potential for backlash.

Some members of parliament have strong views that are totally anti-monarchy
Yet they swear an oath to that same monarch so they can take their place, otherwise they lose their influence.




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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: RIP Queen Elizabeth II
We'll agree to disagree on Charles.
Personal opinion on climate change are great, but what kind of impact can you expect him to have? 1000's of scientists around the world get shouted down by redneck flat-earthers and billionaires.

As for popular opinion and a receptive audience, i agree with you. Some might say 'too soon' and so be it.
People can take i whichever way they want to take it and if certain people want to take offence at that and be disgusted and/or embarrassed thats their choice.

Ultimately, it's me pointing out that the queen took us as far as we could hope for in every respect, but the only way is down from here. It'd be a sign of respect IMO if we ended our allegiance in line with her rule and went our separate ways from here.
It's like a champion retiring after winning a flag. Its all down hill from here, why do it to yourself?

Sometimes you need something like this to push you into the next phase or to give you the motivation to follow through with something you've been putting in the too hard basket.

Its like when i talk about changing the way the AFL fixturing and ladder works to make things better Some people take it for what it is. Other negative nancy's project their insecurities onto my thoughts without actually giving them the time of day and attempting to understand them. Berate me for 'ignoring history' and refusing change rather than seeing if change is something that can make things better.

Revisit this in a year and see if the rest of the room has caught up with me.

Yep
Best agree to disagree

Twelve months down the track may be  a more appropriate time to have the discussion.
 
The fact is that to get a referendum up and running and framed in a way that you can get  a model that will gain general acceptance will take some time.
That was a major problem with the last referendum.
Folks weren't sure just how the model would work and opponents were able to use that confusion to their advantage.

Labor have said they'll work towards a referendum but not in their first term.
Working towards this type of change is not something you push through when you see an opportunity.
That's divisive and would be poorly recieved by many.
That leaves long lasting resentment in a large section of the population.
This is a change you want to stucture carefully and take folks along with you so there is no confusion.

Just finally on someone like the King having an influence on important topics like climate.
I reckon that position gives him quite a platform to talk about and highlight these issues.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: RIP Queen Elizabeth II
I'm not suggesting literally right now, but during the transition phase that is going to have to occur.

How long before all our currency has to get changed over etc etc.

I don't think Australia really need to be 'ruled' anymore and i think the republic push of the late 90's was half-ar$ed and tokenism, everyone has been quiet since then because everyone loves Lizzy. But from here on out things will be different.
We will be 'ruled' by 'Mr Tampon'....and it only gets worse from him.

Maybe so but I'm saying you probably won't get a receptive audience just at the moment amongst the uncommitted.

Strangely Charles is probably in tune with a lot of views expressed on here with regard to a range of things like climate change.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: RIP Queen Elizabeth II
A long and full life well lived.
Sometimes privilege isn't all it's cut up to be
There are the onerous, and often boring affairs of state, and the troubles that plague all families are always played out in a very public fashion.
She had more than her share.
RIP.

(Thanks Betty, Good Luck Chuck....you'll need it ;) )

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The Sports Desk / Re: Ajla Tomljanović vs America
At the end of the day does it really matter who folks think is the GOAT
It comes down to personal perceptions and people's favourites.
Statistics is one aspect.
Influence and dominance is yet another.
The age of those giving an opinion is yet another.

Ask who the GOAT Carlton player, is and you'll probably get half a dozen players in the mix.
And you can almost guarantee playing statistics will have little bearing on the result.
And the result will probably be determined by which age group the majority of voters fit into.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Ajla Tomljanović vs America
Stick Will Setterfield ingto a time machine and send him back to 1969 and he'd probably win the Brownlow and we'd have an extra flag  ;D

Times change, things progress.
Williams vs Court would be a total mismatch.

That shouldn't diminish the achievements of the past...and records are made to be broken.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Ajla Tomljanović vs America
"bigot
[ˈbɪɡət]
NOUN
a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group:"

Hands up if you're not a bigot. ;)