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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Development and Recruiting
Murphy and Judd when in his prime are the only players who we have who consistently knocked out A grade games and with Murphy now getting the best tagger thats not going happen too often and Judd struggles to impact on games even when getting the footy and working hard.

Aside from Gibbs, I think the prime reason we haven't seen consistent performances is these guys can't stay out on the park. Talent wise, I think we have enough good players (though we need a key forward and 3 - 4 of the guys won't be there in 3 years), it's the bottom end and injuries that kills us.

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You need 3-4 of your best players performing at A grade output every week to be a threat......we dont have that.

Agree but you need the bottom 6 contributing and not putting in junk games each week. I don't care if you have 4 players blitz it, if you have 6 others contribute nothing then it's going to be ugly against any half talented side. Yeah, you'll smash the bottom 8 but against top 4? Won't happen.

And I'm sure if you look at Carlton's best each game for the past 3-5 years you will see the same names week in, week out. When have you ever seen a cameo 5 goals or 25 touches from a Carlton player?

Reminds me very much of the early 90s St Kilda who had Harvey, Winmar, Bourke, Lockett, Lowe, Frawley (didn't rate Frawley myself but okay player) but continued to miss finals because the rest of the team was rubbish.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Development and Recruiting
People have short memories. Malthouse has conned everyone - two weeks ago Walker was AA now we have no one. Murphy is an A grader, he's had injury issues but he'll come good. As Kreuzer said himself, the start of his career was excellent, he's struggling to deal with knees and hips. Waite kicked 7 goals less than a month ago. Carrots is the best one on one mid in the game but again injury worries. Opposition teams have stated they put lots of time thinking about how to stop Yarran.

screw me, we went from a team missing a key forward and a poor bottom six to nothing decent in no time.

So what are your thoughts on our development & recruiting? :)

Shizen* but to say we have absolutely zero A grade talent at our club is rubbish.

I forgot to a small forwards who is in the best two or three small forwards in the competition and a defender who also was talked about in AA form.

EDIT: *That's my gut feeling. I guess we'd have to look at how the rest of the competition is going against us to really understand where we sit. I don't agree with the sit on our hands strategy of trading and not getting involved in FA though.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Development and Recruiting
People have short memories. Malthouse has conned everyone - two weeks ago Walker was AA now we have no one. Murphy is an A grader, he's had injury issues but he'll come good. As Kreuzer said himself, the start of his career was excellent, he's struggling to deal with knees and hips. Waite kicked 7 goals less than a month ago. Carrots is the best one on one mid in the game but again injury worries. Opposition teams have stated they put lots of time thinking about how to stop Yarran.

screw me, we went from a team missing a key forward and a poor bottom six to nothing decent in no time.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: RD 16 : Carlton v St Kilda (Pre-game Chatter)
We are not in good shape atm IOT - maybe tonight we can turn it around?

Four games just past to define our season or draw a line in the sand. We didn't. I'm not sure about those kinds of games anyway. How many of us thought we had draw a line in the sand in R3 2012 when we physically smashed a team which had traditionally bullied us? :-[

I am interested to see how our guys play though. I expect a comfortable win but it's a dead rubber so I want to see if they just go through the motions.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: RD 16 : Carlton v St Kilda (Pre-game Chatter)
In any other workplace, he'd have been stood down with pay until this whole thing was sorted out.
But hey, footballers are different apparently. He's 'a top bloke', and 'the heart and soul of the Footy Club'. 'Let him play', say the chorus of boys club boof heads.
And so, he will.

How's this really any different to the Lovett-Murray saga? He was stood down by the club initially and then sacked - why not Milne? Part of the boys club down there and why hasn't the AFL acted (lent on the Saints)?

Apparently wasn't winning many friends and the club was looking for a reason. If you're going to walk a fine line, you have to make sure you are kicking goals because as we've seen countless times, when things don't start going your way there are plenty lined up to do you in.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Five Snags Who Need To Sizzle - HUN
We're 11th, 2 games and percentage out of the 8. We've beaten 1 team in the 8, they are 8th. It's fair enough to say the entire team has been disappointing, it would have been a far better article to point out the 5 who haven't been disappointing.

That said, I'm scratching my head a bit at what's going on with Eddie Betts. These jaw injuries seem to be killers.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2013 Jim Park Medal for CSC's B & F
Thought Walks would coast to victory. Remember something similar happening in 2011 with Murphy actually so let's see if Walker can get things back on track (though I'm sure coaches are put more time into him now)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 'Cue In The Rack' or 'Soldier On'
why are they still there ??? Why weren't they culled last year???

They're still here because the club thought the list was good enough and all it needed was a better coach. Now the list isn't good enough, so they want different players. Ratten has taken a fall, IMO, until those who believed the list was a premiership winning list just needing a tweakhere or there also need to go. When that happens, then I'll know we're serious.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Best new Avatar
Shakin and Brettie's are pretty good.

Let's hope the quality of their posts follows the same path :P
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: RD 16 : Carlton v St Kilda (Pre-game Chatter)
I know we were extremely poor last week but I can't believe this negativity. We're not a great team but we're not a bottom 4 team either.

Murphy and Carrots with last week under their belts will be better. Judd is playing pretty good football.

We've lost Waite but Hendo will go forward. Watson will come in to take Kosi. Milne's mind is not going to be at the game IMO.

Garlett, Yarran and Betts won't have another poor week.

We are good enough for a comfortable win. Blues by 23.