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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: R8 - BEST on ground vs Saints
I don't mind Rowe, he's not the most talented but he's taking his opportunity with both hands and gives his all.happy to have a couple of foot soldier to for others to appreciate how hard it is, and they should work harder to get the most out their talent.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: The Run Home
OK, Some interesting Debate and discussion.

It is becoming clear that the old Carlton way came to the fore here. We coveted someone better and when they became available we paved the way for him to come to the football club. It's not to dissimilar to the Mark Harvey/Ross Lyon scenario which seems to have worked for now. Harvey doing a decent Job, but Lyon doing it better. The thing with that is Lyon built on Harvey's foundations, where Malthouse seems to be stripping it back.

I guess my problem with the whole scenario, is we sacked Ratten that he didn't meet expectations, then lowered those expectations in the media, the supporters and the club, so the new guy, who will not meet the same expectations that Ratten was sacked for, can claim he needs to rebuild.

When Ratten lost to the GC, not a man on here didnt think Ratten was going, yet when we lost to Melbourne, many were OK with that and blamed the list, the development, the injuries (which is a laugh, as we couldn't use that excuse in 2012), the weather, the Crisis in the Ukraine etc... everything but the coach.

I was happy to see improvement with Malthouse, hoping for another finals appearance and games into the young guys and structures and gameplan being bedded down. I havent seen that and thus my expectations have not been met. We will only win 8-10 games this year and that is a fail IMO, but others see it as a necessary evil, yet Ratten wasnt afforded the same luxury.

If we are lucky, the hawks are struggling a bit and we may get them on a good night... I also noticed today that we have 3 x 6 day breaks in a row, then a 8 day break but travel to Perth. I think this will severely hamper any run home that we have.
Totally agree mate, it's amazing how many can't see it.  Pepole I talk to plus some on here, who only 18mths ago had expectation with th enew coach that year 1 = learning year, year 2 = improve to move into top 4-6.  Now those same people are excited and happy to accept anthother 3 years of pain and this year are already booking September holidays.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: R8 - Blues vs Saints (Back on the winners list!)
I see a win is bad for business on this site  :P

Closest AFL game to a nil all draw I've seen.  If they weren't keeping score I'd struggle to have picked a winner.

On the positive I liked what I saw from Menzel, Yazz, Buckley, Docherty and Casboult.  Although Casboult missed he still backed himself to have the shot, hopefully he comes good.  Also some of the older bridgade stood up when needed that was pleasing. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Yarran blames complacency for poor start
@ Goat

As far as how long..  I think around 60 games is fair to get a lot of things done..  But to right every wrong, I would say 3-4 years.
Given his 30 years experience and 3 premierships, I reckon 3-4 years is a bit much, but thanks for your honesty.  He has a 3 year contract and by now I would have expected to see improvement across the team, and more consistent performance.