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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: JLT game 3
I think that's a fairer assessment G2C.

There may be many reasons why Graham and Jaksch can't cement a spot in the 22.  Their social media activity may provide a clue ... or it may be completely irrelevant  :-\

+1

IMHO Social Media is the portrayel of a lifestyle, and not likely to be an accurate picture of how people live their lives.

Its arguable that some people who have a public profile, might not even do their own social media.

Even if it were true, Fev liked more than one beer and Id hazard that Tex Walker likes one too.  Liking a beer on even a semi regular basis wont hold back a footy career.

If they drink heavily frequently that might do it, but even one beer a day wouldnt be a death knell provided they were not out until all hours and it didnt stop them from putting in the hard yards.
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Notice Board (Visitors Enter Here) / Re: Welcome to CSC: 2017

I'm Thryleon (real name Theo)

Carlton follower since 1982 when I was born.
Member of this site since I can't remember but Judd hadn't joined us at that stage.

Ive been a Carlton supporter since I can remember.

Favouite player: Diesel Williams/SOS/Sticks/Kouta/Fev/Judd
Favourite current player: Patrick Cripps
Favourite coach: Parkin
Favourite game: 1995 Grand final
Favourite H&A game : Ill go with the 94 point belting of Essendon.

Favourite other sport:Soccer

bonus stuff: 

I fondly remember meeting at Cafe "notties" Notturno for lunch before a game at Princes Park.
99 Preliminary final
2013 final against Richmond

I have been a paying member for 10 straight seasons now.  Time flies even when you arent winning flags.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: JLT game 3
Hopefully Pickett and LeBois/Polson/Sumner/SPS can start creating some real movement/fluidity/space in the forward line.....it's about having multiple legitimate options to goal, not just whether you're 199+cm.....

You can already see us trying to move the ball more deliberately during play.  Where it falls over somewhat is that when the pressure builds, the players release option is to go long to a contest, and our players have historically had issues dealing with that inferred pressure and are prone to using this get out a little too frequently.

They will improve this in time, but until they do, expect to see the chaos ball more often than not.

Composure is something that is difficult to teach, but once learned will go a long way for us.  Its one reason not to be overly concerned about players getting caught in possession because as they gain composure under pressure, they will invariably get caught more frequently as there is less rush involved in trying to build the play appropriately.

Ive watched Hawthorn do similar.  They sometimes bomb away knowing that once it gets down there, the boys will lock it in and put the opposition on the back foot through their forward pressure.  I think thats the part we do the worst rather than anything else.  The ball seems to come back too easily rather than anything else.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: JLT game 3
Bolton made sure that Weitering played on the competition's best forwards in his first season and he looked comfortable matched up with Franklin, the Riewoldts, Kennedy etc.  He has also looked comfortable leading into space as a forward.

I think that Weitering's development may progress more smoothly if he is able to focus largely on playing one position.  However, it's irrelevant whether that position is as a defender or a forward.  If he is to be used as a forward from time to time, I would prefer to see him starting there rather than being switched during the game.

One of the reasons Weitering was recruited is because he can play forward and back.

Hopefully, if our coach is as good as reported, then these two will have worked out a blueprint for Weitering for his entire career which incorporates the week to week.

In that open dialogue, Jacob would have identified what he wants to do, what role he sees himself performing in, and what KPI's he needs to meet to satisfy that criteria.  They would also have recognised that along with that, the team will have priorities that need to be met, in order for the team to achieve success, as well as the individual and that occasions will arise where roles will need to be played out of necessity, and provided the open dialogue is there, then both coach and player can tick that off and the world keeps spinning.  Some weeks, the KPI's will be met, and other weeks will be gap weeks where the player and coach will learn about how Jacob will need to develop his skills to satisfy all of the wants by coach, player and team.

Are we in the proffesional era??  this is where we are going and this is what I expect for not just Jacob, but each and all of our players moving forward.  A regular catchup where these sorts of things are discussed.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Lyon V Brownless Stoush
Could it be ratings have slipped because footy season hasn't started yet, and there is no real footy news going on??

They chased all the characters out of the game, and now can't drum up any interest.

I wonder why...
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Lyon V Brownless Stoush
the ratings plummet might have more to do with the time of year than anything else.

The real stuff worth commenting on doesnt start for a week or so, and since the trade/draft/free agency period ended there has been very little going on that they actually talk about.



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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: JLT game 3
the only thing I got out of that, is that Lachie is clearly doing a sterling job as the swingman at the cattery!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: JLT game 3
I think players can tolerate a small amount of me me me attitude if they see reward for effort. You can have a great team first player (e.g. Cas or Curnow E), but those turnovers and missed goals must take their toll after a while.

It depends on the composition of the team - some blokes are less resilient and more easily led astray than others.  If by good chance you have a team of mostly resilient types, they could reap the benefits of a talented and slightly selfish player, because they work work around his deficiencies.

A lot of those elite talented players (Fev, Fyfe, Carey etc.) do have a certain arrogance and me first nature - what is super rare are the Judd and Doull types, terrific players that are also team first.

Only a strong team ethos can sort out the me first players.

They need to join it.

We are the opposite.   due to average quality being so low, any half talent with a bad attitude plays for themselves.

Flip it around and you see us of the mid 2000's and there is no end to it until you shock the culture.

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Ladies Lounge / Re: AFLW - R7 - Carlton vs Brisbane
I'll confess I wasn't paying attention to anyone else's matches and thought it was the usual contrived scenario with the pioneers of women's footy making the grand final and one of them winning.

Why?

Because it's an AFL competition.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: JLT game 3
All I am saying is lets draw a line in the sand and move on.
54% of the List is BBs
24% is MMs
15% is Rattens
7% in DPs
Majority of the list is BB's, will be swayed even more his way after this year. Thats enough for me to look fwd instead of back and not hijack every thread with same BS.

One bad apple can spoil the entire barrel.

If we don't have players in it for the team first, then they will spoil some of the others.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: JLT game 3
Either way, we won't know.

Just like we don't know that Richardson may have made Ratten look good, and I have little doubt in my mind that in 2012, the group was that fractured Ratten couldn't have stayed.

Had we appointed Richo back then we could be talking differently,  but one thing we didn't do was our due diligence with any appointment going back to Wayne Brittain which sums up why it's taking us so long.

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Ladies Lounge / Re: AFLW Round 5: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
I thought of the "ageist" angle but decided not to bring it up.  However, I don't really have an issue with encouraging young folk.

Perhaps there should be a "waning star" award to square the ledger ;)

It's probably going to be the equivalent of the brownlow.   Young folk tend to be a bit more inconsistent but brilliant at their best whilst older players tend to keep on keeping on.

For reference kade Simpson.