I know and I understand that, but Im worried that it becomes a bit confidence sapping to not get the reward for effort.
It will expose those players who are not up to it in the long term, and hopefully we have a way to manage our players through such difficulty, but it worries me that too many games without winning may see players starting to lose focus and belief in what they are doing.
But we did. We put in no effort in the first quarter and a bit and lost - our just reward. Footy is a 4 quarter game. We aren't quite fit and strong enough to do this yet.
Those are fair points Thry, but I'm still not sure. Tippett's career thus far has been distinctly underwhelming. He would be a better 2nd ruck than Cas, but he's older, would be more expensive, and has no real presence (Cas is a bit better, but not by much). Plus Cas is a better contested mark, and given his current form, is a better kick for goal. I realize Cas' net worth is now as high as it's likely to be, and one side of the argument says sell now. But on the other hand an argument could be made that says we have put serious amounts of time and effort and resources into getting him sorted, why should others reap the benefits, especially the replacement is of dubious value ?
My devalued Aussie dollar's worth.
All good Paulp, variety is the spice of life as they say and a different opinion is always handy.
I just look at Harry Mckay, Levi, and do the maths, and in about two years time, one of them will be depth (or gone), and the other will be a starting 22 player.
Tippett just turned 30, he can be depth at 32. Casboult is only 27 and will be 29 in the prime years of his career being displaced by Harry and might want out rather than providing us with depth.
All this is as an alternative to selling the farm to get Schache too.
I would not be keen on what amounts to a swap of Cas for Tippett.
I know what you are saying, but its about team balance with greater potential for output. Tippet would absolutely be of greater help to Kreuzer in the ruck and around the ground, and if we got him as a delisted free agent (not as a trade), and lose Casboult as a free agent via the free agency compensation model, I imagine Casboult would net us a second rounder as compensation. I would estimate that would be his value on the open market.
Im looking to strengthen our hand for the draft, and not weaken our team structure which is what I imagine SOS is trying to achieve at the trade table each time.
As Bolton said after yesterday's game, the reward will come in time. Our young players will have learnt a lot from that, so the reward isn't coming in the form of 4 points yesterday, it's coming in the form of experience.
Honestly, I'm not too fussed with us losing these sorts of games this year. We get experience into the young players and go home with another prized draft pick at the end of the year. As long as we don't finish bottom, I'm happy.
I know and I understand that, but Im worried that it becomes a bit confidence sapping to not get the reward for effort.
It will expose those players who are not up to it in the long term, and hopefully we have a way to manage our players through such difficulty, but it worries me that too many games without winning may see players starting to lose focus and belief in what they are doing.
What worries me is that we are not getting the reward for effort.
Yesterday was another match that sort of got away from us right when it became a contest again. Yes North had slowed to a crawl and lifted when we asked the hard questions of them, but there is only so long that this starts to become "defeating".
At the minute we are showing plenty of moxy to hang in there, and this season has gone pretty well for us, and then you look at the ladder and IMHO it might become a bit confidence shattering.
We dont need that. Weitering is an example of what happens when confidence starts to escape your performances. His last game may have been his worst game for the club, and might be an indicator of why we stuck him down forward to begin with as he hasnt really looked "right" all season.
To be honest, players that have all the attention is where I would be steering clear from if I were the list manager. We need blokes that have ability and a point to prove rather than blokes who were taken early in the draft and are looking for a pay day.
We need young heads, but we need to maximise our chances of success here too in terms of a strategy that sees us tread water, whilst attracting some draft picks, and picking up a player which fills the hole.
So, keeping that in mind, the player we can most afford to lose, that has some market value, and might be attractive for sides:
Levi Casboult. With his tidy kicking this season and step up in the ruck, he is a free agent, and the compensation might yield good results in terms of a first/second rounder.
The player we should bring in to replace him?? I would be looking at Kurt Tippet as being a bloke who has had a poor few years, is in the twilight of his career, has had his pay day, and will be looking to elongate his career whilst having a point to prove and plenty of football left in the tank.
If we could somehow swing that deal, we would walk away from it at worst having broken even at the trade table and perhaps in an even better position at the draft than we are in at the moment. Obviously I wouldnt be pulling out all the stops for Tippett, but its a buy low, sell high scenario whilst breaking even. This is the blue print we trade with moving forward.
Everyone saying Kreuzers always fared better by himself is being somewhat biased.
Yes he goes better as a first ruck. That's a fact.
This is possibly the first time he's been fully fit since he was drafted. So he may very well do playing off a wing or forward better than ever before too meaning hr might actually play as well or better in a tandem.
In terms of my test, it is truthful and provided it's not mean spirited, as upsetting as it is for someone to be called fat, it's it's not really taboo.
Even then you still probably should bite your tongue.
Everyone knows better than to comment on overweight people as being fat. Some people do have real issues managing their weight.
It's the same with ugly. You don't call someone ugly even if they are. It's hurtful.
Now you have picked two circumstances where my rule falls over somewhat but then you simply have to put yourself in the shoes of the other person and instantly you get a read on if it's ok.
Understand and accept all that. People however do have different tolerance levels to it. Me for example? Water off a ducks back. I consider myself Australian as I was born here. My heritage is Italian of which am very proud of but I have never said "I am Italian". In fact, whenever I am (or was) asked "Are you Italian", ever since I was kid I answered "No, I'm Australian, born here but my parents are Italian". That's not in any way because I am ashamed of my heritage, on the contrary, I am very proud of it as I am also proud to be Australian. I have experienced what is termed "racism" all my life but I just dont give a fark. Am I thick skinned? Does it not worry me because I think of myself as an "Aussie" as opposed to a "Wog"? No idea. It just doesn't get to me at all. But I do understand that jokes like the one I made are now considered offensive and are a no go. Do I agree with it? No not really. Do I accept it? Of course I do.
All good mate.
This is an extremely mature way for this to play out. No name calling just matter of fact discussion. ?
I also dislike the word wog.
I too have a thick skin. Not all people do and realistically they shouldn't have to have a thick skin.
It's a bit of fun police sort of thing but this is where we are as a society. It's not always mean spirited stuff but that's how it's interpreted some times,and a bit of harmless fun can lead to mental health issues amongst people who can't deal with this stuff.
?