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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Weiters scammed
weiters was fundamentally naive.

This is a him issue.  The world has been exploited and manipulatd by whatever you want to call them since the dawn of time and the digital platform gives them more means to contact you but even more ways for you to protect yourself.  I.e.  had he just looked at the app of his financial institution the account he was transferring into wouldn't be listed in his accounts, then hang up, and contact the bank directly and fact check any claims.  Was his account frozen?  Nope he could transfer money.  BINGO

I referenced the Nigeria airport scam for a reason.  It happened a long time ago and all it took was a salesman contacting a banker in Brazil.

Thats all this is.  He fell for a social engineering scam and wilfully involved himself.  These people can't get you if you don't do it.  Ergo you have the ability to stop it which is why I have an apparent lack of sympathy for Jacob and his plight.  Speak to people about whats happening.  Don't do this stuff over the phone and verify you are speaking to someone from that bank and I don't mean calling the number they give you!!!

Not sure why people are saying I'm on the wrong track here.  This is 99% jacobs fault for being exploited.  Call it victim shaming if you like but without his involvement this doesn't happen.  Only person I know these days who is surprised by the volume of spam they receive is my mother.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Weiters scammed
So much of the kids live and die by what happens online now, far more get scammed than they realise, and anyone who knows a smidgen about cyber crime knows nobody is safe.

The big problem globally is that Russia and North Korea basically fund state activities using cyber crime. North Korea have pulled off massive heists cleaning out bullion and cash from even the reserve banks of countries, all protected by people who think it couldn't happen to them!

There was a great documentary made about this a couple of years back, it is called the Lazarus Heist, have a listen!  To cover their tracks, the Russians basically make all the same tools freely available on the Dark Web, the more people that use them the greater the smokescreen for their own activities.

The only thing that keeps you safe, is not attracting the crooks attention.

Jacob Weitering was both very studious and very academic at school, a good student who actually prioritised his studies over football. He scored highly in ATAR, he's not one to be gullible or careless. The people that scammed Weiters didn't do it with a simple click of a mouse, they apparently set him up over months of messages and correspondance.

And not once did he ring his bank to check on this.?

Golden rule always call your institution first no matter what.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Weiters scammed
Probably a bit harsh there Thry. It can happen to anyone, especially a professional sportsman with a million footy related things on his mind. It only takes one brain fade.

Maybe. However the money was transferred in several lots, not all at once. So first thing you do is call the bank and check. Its been reported many many times banks do not send you text messages and ask you to transfer money to another account.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda
Frustrating was Harry in the 3rd quarter trying to convert and then watching that rain maker kick that got swept away down forward...does all the hard work taking marks then just doesnt concentrate at the critical times and that proved a momentum shifter.

Yeah agree, however nothing has changed since last year or his Coleman year in his kicking style, so maybe its in his head and he is out of form goal kicking wise.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda
Last year we were contested bulls, dominating from stoppages. This we rank 17th for clearances. Work rate has dropped right off. Don't want it badly enough. Played one good game for the year, round 2 against Geelong.

Last year we started like a bull at the gate only to see us drop off considerably in the second half of the season. Maybe this year we are trying a slow buildup.   ::)  I think Geelong were the same and peaked at the business end of the season. Although we do need some pace on the outside.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Ive said this in another thread, and I think we are better off playing a game without one of Charlie or Harry to understand what else is there just in case, that if he cops a week for that then every single head high contact must be sighted and taken to the tribunal.  Spoils are worse than what sheezel copped from Harry.

I see what you mean however I think we have been virtually playing with only one of them as Harry was basically not there for the first 3 games, considering his output.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Definitely not a Clarkson fan but I have no problem with his press conference. He was out of his comfort zone, tried to engage the young 7 yo who was overawed and spoke genuinely about the child and his family. Giving a kid a pat on the  back and ruffling his hair, while speaking about years of illness and surgeries. If we have a problem with that, maybe we are the ones with the problem. Well done both clubs and both coaches, great messages all round!

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Been doing it for a while under the guise he is a just a tough awkward bloke and its all accidental......Cerra copped a fend off in the eye and I think Harry copped a punch to the head(not sure if it was Zurhaar) but the whole game was played with Nth going the cheap shot when available. Clarkson must have thought he was back in London and his blokes could just tee off on ours.
We need someone to dish it back and just crumple Zurhaar and stop how he plays vs us....I always think back to Liam Jones on the boundary and how he got badly hurt from another accidental Zurhaar incident.

Have to agree there some what. As in first half i thought this guy is going to really hurt someone. He got picked up for a face fend off which was correctly paid as a free. Another one against DOC was high in the throat area which I think was 50/50 from where i was sitting.

On the other hand I also thought that if you wanted to target real hard nut that is not afraid to put his body on the line he would be first on my list. He would easily be ahead of some of the other players that have been already mentioned in this thread.

Thoughts anyone?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
I understand this viewpoint. But I also think it is sad that masculine affection is viewed with a certain concern and suspicion, a sorry situation with its origins in a shocking history, over many decades, even centuries, of a small % of males abusing and molesting innocent young people from a position of authority and trust. Most males find these actions of a minority of seedy men despicable... and many an abuser has found himself on the wrong end of a fist, or worse, when every day blokes find out what has been done to an innocent young person (by one of these 'sickos').

Perhaps because I am an expressively affectionate man by nature, though I do respect and understand boundaries - especially with girls/women, I saw Clarkos affection as nothing untoward, simply a genuine care for the young fella. He wanted to connect with the young fella through sincere touch. I get that. I'd like to think that had the young fella been a young girl, Clarko would not have been the same, as Vossy did (with a young girl).

And to add to that, although I am far from a fan of Clarko the person, I thought his thoughts on us and obvious respect for us was pretty classy.

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Being an older gentleman, it irritates me that you can show affection to younger people, male or female and been viewed as a dirty old man.  I grew up in an era where we were taught to be a gentleman and open doors for ladies and older people, something i still do today. There is nothing wrong with being a caring sharing person without having sinister intentions.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Rank these in order....
  PLAYER
 A - B - C
11 - 13 - 10 - Disposals
2 - 4 - 3 - Marks
217 - 204 - 97 - metres gained
1 - 2 - 0 - Goal assists
72 - 66 - 53 - TOG%
2 - 3 - 1 - I50's
4 - 6 - 2 - Score involvements
72 - 69 - 50 - DE%
6 - 1 - 2 - Tackles
3 - 0 - 1 - Clearances



FWIW.....








TDK - SOS - PItto
22 - 0 - 14 - Hitouts

Not sure how TDK/PITTO are getting so much love and Jack is the immediate out.

And he missed 2 sitters as well!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Seriously pathetic by the old man. I would be dead set embarrassed. He has form though so probably not a real surprise. Real shame

Heard on the ABC that he was in the car in the car park and may not of being allowed in.
Jack may of being pissed at the club and not hi dad.
Some clubs are pretty tight on who they let in to the dressing room, which is a shame seeing it was such a big milestone.