Carlton Supporters Club

Desperation might make selectors take the chance with Martin imho..

I think we are chance too but will need some injury help. Collingwood are very down on numbers and have heard both Daicos boys are very sore and should be managed but they can't afford to rest them.
That has to bite them soon as does having
no tall defenders fit.
Two must games I like to win are vs Collingwood and Essendon during the season. That's all I expect this team to deliver....that's not too hard a task is it ?

Owies gets some leeway because he was a Cat B rookie.  He is generally a good finisher and he does occasionally find space in our forward line but, like Motlop and Durdin, he’s a hell of a way off the likes of Picket, Bolton, Cameron, Breust, Papley, and Stengle … and his work off the ball is no better than that of Motlop and Durdin.

I’d have Owies in my 22 before Honey but he doesn’t offer any more than Motlop or Durdin … and nowhere near what the elite small forwards provide.

We can kick ok when we switch on properly. We showed that last year when we near made finals playing with " half a side" most weeks. Missed by just 2 "chokes". Unfortunately we have a group not hungry enough for long enough so alot less care is taken executing. They either switch on each week or otherwise it is yet just another wasted season. Worse now as we have a side that can take a step.

Like I said he wouldn’t be first ruck in any of the better teams

Our whole organization from the very top to the boot studder is not ruthless enough and don't want it enough and out list has no leadership to correct anything.

Despite all the hope and talk again we are still miles off the pace. No leadership on this list and they just take performances like that on the chin without a whimper. We are a list filled with nice guys and none have a any sort of hard ruthless edge.  Our captain was smiling after the game with Lachie Neale after he had a stinker while his direct opponent comprehensively smashed him and yet he still can smile?  And all those that say that means nothing are kidding themself.  We are powerless to do anything to change an outcome if it's not on our terms we have too many holes in a very unbalanced list to be genuine contenders. In the third quarter when we were jammed in our D50 and couldn't get out and not one player knew WTF to do. We looked stunned and just kept turning it over. It took a soft 50 metre penalty to get us out.

We are the ultimate teasers, pretenders that melt as soon as the heat is applied. And our opposition know it!

Again like so many pre seasons out list is talked up and many including me fall for it. Then the talk stops and we see teams below us with much less fanfare leapfrog over us and teams above us continue to pull away while we just pretend it all about to turn around any minute. Reality is another season has gone down the drain and i no longer have any belief our club is ever going to amount to anything.

No, enough excuses, if they can't excuse basic skills, see ya later. If they undermining another coach, see ya later. I have had a gut full. Seriously sick of them getting talked up, drinking their bath water, then failing again.

How will Trump fare if he’s found to have raped E Jean Carroll by the jury in the civil trial? Assuming Trump doesn’t change his mind about testifying, final addresses will be next.

The smart money would be on Trump losing. E Jean Carroll apparently gave compelling evidence that Trump had manoeuvred her into a cubicle at the Bergdorf Goodman store in New York, pinned her against the wall and raped her. Pretty much immediately afterwards, she complained of it to a couple of her friends but was hesitant to report it to police fearing Trump would make her life hell. Criminal proceedings were time barred but after the Me-Too movement the NY legislature allowed a once-only opportunity for sexual assault victims to sue in the civil courts and she took advantage.

E Jean Carroll is a somebody as she was a long-time agony aunt for Elle magazine and comes across as a chatty, funny lady. Trump’s lawyer apparently conducted the sort of scorched earth cross-examination that could well have alienated the jury. Unfortunately for Trump, his lawyer seems to have spent part of his time attacking her over something that may well be Trump’s motive for raping her. The lawyer tried to exploit her account that she had tried to parry Trump’s dominant behaviour via humour. She said he wanted her to try a slip but she joked with him that it would look better on him and invited him to try it on while draping it over his shoulder. If there’s anything we’ve learnt about Trump’s malignant narcissism, we now know that was unfortunately destined to lead to him becoming enraged and taking revenge.

Trump refused to testify or even be present during the trial but parts of his video deposition were played. He resorted to his usual defence when accused of sexually assaulting women. He claimed E Jean Carroll wasn’t his type. In other words, she was too ugly to rape. In addition, he denied he’d ever met her. He was shown a picture taken at a charity event of Trump talking to a woman. Trump identified the woman as his former wife Marla Maples and he agreed she was definitely his type. Unfortunately for Trump, the woman in the picture was E Jean Carroll who was a looker back in the day.

The knife was twisted by the Plaintiff’s lawyer who played the famous “grab them by the pussy” tape and called a couple of women who had been molested by Trump. One woman had had the misfortune of being seated next to him on a plane and Trump, without making any attempt to talk to her, tried to explore her nether regions and kiss her.

It seems the only thing that could save Trump would be a majority of the jury being MAGA fanatics and the odds of that aren’t great in NY.

So, what happens if he loses? Sure, he’ll appeal and claim he’s the victim of a hoax. But surely he’d be dead politically.  Imagine political ads calling him a proven rapist. He needs more than his MAGA fans in a general election. Kiss goodbye to the votes of suburban women or values-voting independents. He might become a hero for incels and those who love Jordan Pietersen and the Tate brothers, but I suspect he already had their support along with the racists anyway. Growing his vote would be a harder task.