Need big changes It’s a culmination of so many things. We get average performance over 25 years because the wrong people at the top I’m a big fan of Wright but he has his hands full With this being the last draft trade period that’s uncompromising will Be fascinating what he does and equally fascinating how much the board and the powerbrokers interfere
Normally I’m on the other site but reading this thread some of the comments make me laugh The injury excuse We have 12 guys out Casboult done and dusted Boyd Mirkov McDonald rookies recycled players McGovern has hardly touched it in 3 years anyway I could go on Essendon have more out yet there probably going to play finals Whoever said that injury is an excuse for yesterday’s shameful effort has their hand on it
Our recruiting is crap Our midfield recruiting over the last 6 years has been crap many on big money giving up draft picks It’s Walsh Cripps then who else I new we were in big trouble when they gave up the farm for McGovern and Setterfield when the club had its worse year on record in 2018 Stephen Silvangi screwed this rebuild up big time I predicted that this year we would be crap and once again a new List Manager Nick Austin decides to pay Zac Williams 4.8 million over 6 years to solve our midfield speed woes The guy has played 8 years as as unaccountable half back How screwing stupid is it to give a guy such a massive contract to do a job he clearly is not capable of doing The club is now saddled with paying a guy huge money for 6 years to play on nobody at HB Ditto Jack Martin plays as a permanent HF does pretty much screw all
The club overrated him as well 5 years on about 3.5 million This is a guy who has achieved virtually nothing his whole career Other clubs simply wouldn’t do this Why would a club give up a pick 8 for a guy who can play only one position Ironically HB and pay him over 3 million for 5 years. At least Saad is fit but he is actually a limited player Why would you give up pick 30 for a spud like Fogarty Whilst all this is going on Murphy is handed games to get to 300 like he is entitled to get there and produces crap footy Meanwhile Carroll Honey Ramsay can’t get a game Honey and Ramsay have played one game between them in 2 years That’s a joke
What i am saying is nothing has changed in 20 years The club still lives in the past It hugely overrates some It says screw the others How does that produce a team environment How can a guy like SPS be allowed to play 93 games It doesn’t get how to be successful in 2021 The board needs to go The board is ultimately responsible for setting the tone I’ve said this on the other website for years This external review is another smoke screen Until that happens nothing will change
Murphy was poor but Jack Martin continues to disappoint IMO, Yeo was second game back after a long lay off and copped a knock in the head but was influential in the contests ,getting physical with our blokes and looking after Cripps. Williams and Saad were ok but Martin isnt doing enough, he has the skills but continues as he did at GC to have low possession games and I'd be giving him a rocket if I was the coach and telling him to lift his work rate.
Tell me What has Martin achieved in his whole career
If you think Martin's soft (or lazy) you really are clueless.
You see the perception is this guy is a gun Can you tell me his individual achievements This is his 9 th season In 8 and a half seasons he has finished 3 rd in a GC B+F and was a rising star in 2014 That’s it Can you tell me a game last year where he went into the midfield and made a sustained difference Give me a specific game I’ll give you a specific game Against Brisbane second quarter last game of the year CHB pulled out of a contest This after hardly touching it in a game where a top team was heating it up not to mention Simmos last game a guy of similar size who never pulled out of a contest in over 300 games given by recollection of events
His salary was reported as an average of 600k over 5 years that was to be front loaded.
Definitely front loaded so they could fit Saad and Williams into calculations But I think it’s more than 400000 The problem is McKay for next year That’s why free agency can bite you on the arse Of course Carlton should know this🤪
Martin will be on less than 400k for the next 3 seasons as the contract was front loaded to pay him 2 million for his first 2 years.
I have read that Martin was in the top 5 paid players in 2020 Ignore COVID-19 and he would have got a million The next 4 years starting from 2021 it’s 600000 a season Not bad for a cameo soft injury prone lazy guy who can’t play midfield Saad actually is on 650000 Face it the club has shot itself in the foot once again
We can assume that’s the case surely Williams 850000 Martin 600000 McGovern 700000 Saad 500000 plus Cripps 800000 Curnow 600000 The added problem is McKay He is on around 400000 He will be getting close to double that next yearbecause his contract is up In relation to the first three names we are not getting bang for the buck of course Charlie has been injured WC and Freo don’t have much wriggle room either Freo in particular over pay some of their so called stars Rory Lobbe
Seriously some posters are desperate and clueless Why do you think they would want to come to Carlton And how about we actually pick more decent kids and development Then there is the salary cap with little wriggle room
Our recruiting over the last years particularly mids has been woeful Add some horrible trades recruiting total spuds from other clubs plus giving too long contracts to blokes who don’t deserve them and this is what you get The coach had a shocker of the week but the club itself is the problem Starts at board level I said last year we won’t go anywhere in 2021 Everyone over the moon about Williams and Saad Saad is one dimensional Williams is a HBF that’s all he is Our depth is crap The club doesn’t seem to have the capacity to actually know where it’s really at It overrates its list condo Add gifting games to Murphy is adding insult to injury But sacking the coach will not solve the club’s problems The President and Judd departing at the end 2021 might trigger the real change we need
You know who else got 2 possessions in the last quarter.....Captain Cripps. For a guy who is captain, that is CLEARLY not good enough.
The whole team was crape in the last, using that to justify your argument (if it is indeed based on stats or just your opinion) doesn't make him look bad, it makes him look like the rest of the team.
Why not He played crap and went missing when it counted How many credits does Cripps have in the bank
Since you guys are so good at using stats to back up your argument Here is mine He basically played around the ground on ball with some stints up forward As we know he is the best kick in the team 9 score involvements when you get only 12 possessions is amazing Here is the bit you blokes conveniently don’t bring up In the last quarter Cuningham like most in the team played 100% in defence 2 possessions Not one tackle When the pressure was on like always with him he went missing For a guy in his 6 th year it ain’t good enough
