Those types forward don't have to be that fast, just read it well, and, of course, have the ability to play forward. Read it well and it makes up quite a bit for pace.
Nah, he has a Queen Mary turning circle. Dont trust his kicking either, mugs to the backline as the old saying goes. Mirroring Crashes comments, we need a "premiership" KPF and ruckman. As brave as Pitto is, he isn't "the one" and neither is Harry IMO.
hmm. I think we one of each last year. Cant recall who but I'm sure we did!!
Highest score in 16 years and 16 individual goal kickers which ties the AFL/VFL record for goal kickers. Spewing I did not go. Cant wait to watch the replay. Go Bluesssssssssssssssssssssssssss..............
I am guessing that there were issues/differences of opinion between Vossy and at least some of the players. Something has definitely changed, we play with so much more belief and authority. It’s remarkable and refreshing.
Mentally I think they are so much more on point. I have only seen a few games this season and for one reason or another what I noticed was that you could see there heads drop if something didn't go to plan. You could feel it at the ground. Now watching them there like bulls at a gate wanting to gang tackle and applying immense pressure on the opposition. So maybe the fresh voice along with a couple of tweaks to the game plan the players have responded. The players keep harping on about how they have been trying to play this way all year and now its working. Don't they say that football is 90% above the shoulders?
I listened to MMM just before half time. BT and Montagna both basically saying Geelong was cruising - in fact at half time BT said gee not a great game for Cats, Blues are being stubborn. We had just kicked 4 to 2 i believe. Then they said youd expect Geelong to go on with it here 🤪 like commentate without bias. Sick of listening to such poor commentating
That's why I always listen to the ABC. Tired of the BS that the other stations go on about. And best of all no ads.
Ison is a smart footballer. Several times he had a quick tap rather than a gather and then be tackled.
I would really like to see him and Moir in the side together who plays with similar vision and flair. Those 2 working together could yield some magic similar to the krakour brothers from back in the day.
Yes agree. My concern is that Moir, as talented as he is, may not have the desire and hunger that is required to make a AFL footballer. Could he of been so talented as a young player that he never really had to work as hard for the football as others because of his talent and this is now catching up with him at this level. If his desire was as good as his football talent would he be playing more senior football? Don't know? Comments anyone?
Listening to the ABC broadcast and they said that Carlton kept their shape and composer and did not allow Geelong the space that they like. I have not seen the game yet so would like a rundown of what they did well and how the game plan has changed or what is been executed better under Josh since he took over?
In a word.....pressure.
Players were running contest to contest. Didn't allow Geelong time to breathe.
Geelong were doing the normal 15m chip kicks to free players, the second they took the mark, there was a bloke there. Normally, they'd be trailing and casually coming to the mark. We didn't give them any time or space. As a result, they made more mistakes than they may have otherwise....some under very little pressure, but because we were constantly up in their face, they expected it and were rushed.
Cowan playing on Jezza Cameron all game was something nobody was expecting, while Jezza still kicked 3-4, Cowan won plenty of contests and allowed us to free up Weitering a bit more.
But overall, it was simply pressure.
Thanks Krud. That's the impression I got from listening to the broadcast.
Listening to the ABC broadcast and they said that Carlton kept their shape and composer and did not allow Geelong the space that they like. I have not seen the game yet so would like a rundown of what they did well and how the game plan has changed or what is been executed better under Josh since he took over?
Did not go, wish I had of now. The feeling at the ground would of been unreal. I imagine like the win against Melbourne in the 2nd semi to get into the PF in 2023. Patrick Cripps you are a legend. Go blues.
I was not at the game so have not seen any of his shots. Harry has his own anxiety with kicking for goals. He is much better from a distance when he can kick through the ball. Since he started kicking round the corner from close distance he seems to of lost confidence in his kicking. It does my head in when I see a player kicking around the corner from close range. When I was a kid the norm was a torp from any distance or angle. One that stands out is twiggy dunn in the GF I think kicking a torp from 50 and it going straight over the umpires head. If anyone can find any stats on his conversion rate say from 0 - 30 and 30 - 50 it would make interesting reading I would say.
I was surprised to see that Harry did not use his usual 'around the corner' technique when kicking for goal from set shots. In some cases the kicks were from the left hand side of the goals so that was understandable but there was one (or two) where he kicked a straight-forward drop punt from position/s where he would have usually kicked 'around the corner'. They were quite straight kicks that didn't miss by much but the fact that he didn't go 'around the corner' suggested that he might have been acting under instructions to not do so.
Thanks RR. As I said was not at the game and with recent history of his kick round the corner close in maybe the club have said enough is enough. About time if so!!!!
I was not at the game so have not seen any of his shots. Harry has his own anxiety with kicking for goals. He is much better from a distance when he can kick through the ball. Since he started kicking round the corner from close distance he seems to of lost confidence in his kicking. It does my head in when I see a player kicking around the corner from close range. When I was a kid the norm was a torp from any distance or angle. One that stands out is twiggy dunn in the GF I think kicking a torp from 50 and it going straight over the umpires head. If anyone can find any stats on his conversion rate say from 0 - 30 and 30 - 50 it would make interesting reading I would say.
Not sure about his conversion rate wrt distance, but overall he kicked 238.251.
Thought Harry was much better this week and was probably infringed every time he went for a mark.
Agree but 1g-4b is 1g-4b not matter how you look at it and its unacceptable from THE key fwd. This isn't a one off, week in week out for a very long time. He is getting to contests, clunking some marks and getting opportunities. The conversion or lack of is a real concern. Kick 4-1 and we win.
I was not at the game so have not seen any of his shots. Harry has his own anxiety with kicking for goals. He is much better from a distance when he can kick through the ball. Since he started kicking round the corner from close distance he seems to of lost confidence in his kicking. It does my head in when I see a player kicking around the corner from close range. When I was a kid the norm was a torp from any distance or angle. One that stands out is twiggy dunn in the GF I think kicking a torp from 50 and it going straight over the umpires head. If anyone can find any stats on his conversion rate say from 0 - 30 and 30 - 50 it would make interesting reading I would say.
Today was humiliating. There is no other way of describing it. We haven't learnt anything from last year. [1] There are others who may not agree, but Gawn's game today showed why having a decent ruckman is a necessity. He lifted and dragged his midfield with him. Pitto tried his heart out, but he isn't a top ruck. HOK has also gone backwards, which doesn't help us at all. Reidy doesn't look like the answer either, although he does, at least, get a few possessions. We need a top ruck if we are to ever get back to being a contender! We had one but he is no longer at the club!!
[2] Our fitness levels remain suspect. Our 1st quarter was as good as any played this season, but after that ... Not fitness. Its mental. I remember an interview with Florent after the first game and he said that all the clubs have the same fitness base and that it is more of a mental issue. This was clear last year, yet we don't appear to have addressed it at all. If anything, we conk our earlier. We've been in front at half time in all of our games, again! Yet, we've won one and were lucky to do so.
[3] Our disposal: Another point we noted last year. Has it improved? Well, I couldn't say yes. Our disposal at times was diabolical. Nothings changed!!
[4] Our decision making also appears no better. Again, it was obvious last year. Nothings changed!!
[5] Our style of play: it was incredibly obvious that we our game style needs work. (a) We don't stay close enough, or put enough physical pressure on to make a difference. That was so obvious when you looked at Talor Byrne's efforts, which really stood out. (b) we don't lead and we don't honour a lead. We just fill in the spaces, so there is nowhere to run into. Instead we kick long down the line to a contest, which was so predictable to the opposition that they know what we're doing better than our players do. (c) Run and carry: after quarter time we barely had any. Melbourne continually had guys open because they ran hard and kicked long. We stopped until everyone was covered before we tried to kick. (d) We don't run with anybody. Opposition good players feast out on us as nobody picks them up. Pickett doesn't get a kick on a negative player who sticks close to him. But allow him to run around and he kills you! (e) We kick the ball to the opposition's netter players instead of to ours. The number of times we kicked the ball to Gawn was ghastly!
[6] Psychological help: we clearly need it, as we lack belief. We don't think quickly. We make poor decisions. Most of that can be cured if we have faith in our teammates. We don't. We really need to have this self-belief if we are to improve.
[7] Leadership: we really are missing a fair bit there. Our 'leaders' don't go the extra mile. When things get hard, they don't stand up. Melbourne's leaders really stood up when it was needed. Ours did not. We cannot afford that.
I don not think Voss will be coaching us next year. No matter how well he might speak, his tenure has been one of lack of leadership, being unable to run out games, not being able to react to changes and not improving our game plan. I don't know who our next coach may be, but we need one. We have issues that need addressing and Voss isn't doing the job.
