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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Voting AFL Rd 5 2026 Carlton vs Adelaide
Team.    D+

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide
On numerous times we had possession kicking out from the backline. No one leads, we do the big kick to a 50/50 situation and more often than not the Crows take control.  Newman one of the culprits as always.

Yes agree we lack structure and some the skills to play a fast open game.

Very shaky on the backline, particularly early in the game. Haynes the exception, pity he wasn't 5-10  years younger.

Under the Poncho as the rain came down!  Gave it away half way through the last.  ;)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
I had the craziest thought last night, why not play Crippa down back this week. He is 195cm, agressive, give him a shot at one of their big fellas, Tex maybe?
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. Yes, good idea GTC.  Have thought sometimes Crippa could be our (sometimes) centre half back, as you say playing on a big forward.    Last year when the Crows carved us up over here at Adelaide oval, our backs were all at sea on Tex.  Even Weitering struggled.  He isn't the fastest mover but out manoeuvred them, particularly Young.
Would love Vossy to try a few  such moves, instead of the same old.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Given the way we are being swept aside at centre bounces as games progress, I would hope selectors bring in Ben Camporeale for some more grunt.
Didn't watch the game, but 27 disposals suggests he is running into some reasonable form.

Wade Derksen could be the obvious choice if Harry Dean with injured shoulder doesn't come up. I would hope they give Dean a good spell and allow his young body time to recover.


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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: DJC – on


We'll miss Coop but our forward looks more potent with Frankie and Byrner - if the latter can bring what he showed in the practice matches.

Who plays all the midfield minutes that Lord was playing? Have to think Evans will play some....who else?

I would've brought someone like Acres in to allow our wingers to play more midfield.

Good question Kruds:  I wonder if Ben Ainsworth might be given some time through the midfield.  Sounds like he played there successfully during his time at Gold Coast.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: Lods – on
It always amazes me that definitive judgements are made on 19 year olds.

Who is making definitive judgements?

Ignoring everything about the individual player and just looking at where they are drafted, thats the conclusion you will come too. Later picks and rookie picks will struggle to make it.

Now back to the players, have they shown anything at this stage to buck that trend? Not really, they are showing about what their draft value suggests.
They might make it.
They might not.

Not definitive at all, just statistical analysis.

Some would say your post 18 March 2026 , was sounding fairly definitive (& rather harsh) Mr Kruds: -

The campo twins never came highly rated.
We all have expectations that they can live up to their old man, but not likely.

TBH, i don't think they will make it, and if the old man is causing an issue now, perhaps we show them the door sooner rather than later. Perhaps they'd be better off following his footsteps and pissing off to Essendon, they'd probably get a game there.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Understand the point you are making DJC & LP re how other recruiters rated Ben & Lucas for them to fall to picks 43 & 45, although I wonder if the fact that we held F/S rights wasn't a factor.

Not sure why they should be better suited back here at Port EB. Guess you are saying they are the type of player Port needs in their mix with Boaky gone. However, hopefully if given a reasonable chance we will find they are a "need' here!

Sometimes I wonder why as supporters we have to be so negative on young players who have hardly been looked at.  These guys, their family members must sometimes read this negativity. If so you we shouldn't be surprised if they do decide to go back from where they have come.  Why poke the bear with a stick? 
As has been said "Carlton supporters devour their own", if true not very smart. As supporters we are part of the fabric of a football club and need to play our part for the club to have success.

Well I guess I got that off my ...back !!
cheers AB
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Can't understand all the negativity on Ben and Lucas Camporeale.  Come on guys give them a chance.!

 The fact that their dad Scott Camporeale, an accomplished footballer for Carlton went off to Essendon near the end of his playing career, is no reflection on the boys and their potential. Good luck to Scott, he only did what many on this site have been suggesting for Paddy Cripps, ie. we should trade him back to a Perth club.  Also, I don't hear many ethical complaints when we trade in players from other AFL clubs.

Both Ben and Lucas were good under 18 players for SA with Ben making All Australian.
Ben Camporeale was unlucky not to have played a game or two last season.  The moment Paddy Cripps goes down with an injury, Ben could be just the guy we need in midfield imo.

If Carlton FC  can't develop these two guys to reasonable AFl players, we haven't much future as a football club. 

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: tonyo – on
We badly need some more liveliness in the F50.  We reverted to the bad old 'bomb it in' ways in the second half last week.

Derksen, Evans, Byrne in

Young, Fogarty, Elijah get a break

I'd actually like to see Derksen given a run in the forward line.
He played at both ends for GWS in the VFL and was their leading goalkicker in 2023.

Yes, so far we have looked undermanned up forward without Charlie.  Imagine Derksen has been largely recruited to do a job down back so this may be his starting spot in the firsts. Will look forward to seeing how he also goes if swung forward. Good to have a guy with size on our list with that versatility.