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In: L.Young, L.Cowan, S.Docherty
Out: J.Silvagni (hand), Z.Williams (calf), M.Cottrell (ankle)

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on April 30, 2025, 07:25:19 pm

Maybe.
I would assume it wont be Young who comes in
Weiters - Thilthorpe
Gov - Fogarty
Haynes - Walker
Saad - Keays
Carroll - Rachele

I think Young might play....don't trust Haynes either on any of those physical type forwards.Walker would get my best defender. Saad on Keays from memory hasn't worked out too well either...prefer Saad on Rankine
I'd be hoping our mids dominate and supply is minimal to the Crows forward line.

Quote from: shawny – on April 27, 2025, 05:01:24 pm

cottrel needs to learn what workrate is required. doesnt work hard enough considering the wheels he has

Another dumb footballer who has one great talent - areobic running.
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Haynes is playing a blinder..proving us all wrong

Williams calf.
What a surprise.

Don’t re sign him

Quote from: madbluboy – on April 18, 2025, 05:45:12 pm

I thought it was a danger game?

It was.
Doesn’t mean NM aren’t crape

Certainly not feeling confident at this stage. North working their way back.

Holy mackerel, kahunas from the MC!! Omitting Doc is a strong and important statement. I feel for Doc, but his form hasn't warranted selection (for a while!). It wouldn't surprise me if Doc suggested it, that kind of person. The sentimentalist on the MC will be in tears

Quote from: kruddler – on April 10, 2025, 06:17:38 pm

In the last 4 games between us and them......our WORST performance has been a 63 point win.
Our average winning margin against them in the last 4 games is 76 points.

They might think they are a chance based on our recent form this season, but on recent form against them, they shouldn't have high hopes.

Agree, we should beat them comfortably without too many problems.
Our top players are way better than theirs and I expect our mids to dominate.
Only area where they may make it awkward is down forward where Allen, Waterman, Ryan,  and J Cripps are a reasonable unit but with limited supply I don't see a problem.

I understand where you are coming from Thry but it sounds like the gambler playing the roulette wheel, stick with it and eventually your winning number will come up.

At present, there is a malaise & complacency amongst the group, they know they are never going to get dropped which gives them an out. They are professional sportsmen (and earning a very good living out of it) but if you & I kept delivering the same lame efforts, we'd get sacked, they just get another game & fat paycheque. 

As an example, Sam Walsh had 174 metres gained on the weekend, even TDK had more than that and he's a goddam ruckman. For me, they are allowing the players to dictate terms & coast along with no penalty.

Another example is Fogarty who plays as a small forward. Since joining Carlton, he has played 51 games but only kicked 19 goals, way under half a goal a game. Again, his output is woeful for a small forward (given his primary job is to kick goals), however, he is averaging 5 tackles a game which is in the elite category. Clearly he has strong desire to chase, be physical & attack the player with the ball, this makes him an ideal small defender IMO. We always get cleaned up by the good small forwards, we have never had anyone capable of keeping Elliott etc in check. Maybe we have one right under our nose but will never find out if we don't try it.

Looking at Boyd, I'm not a huge fan but many others are. He goes where 'angels fear to tread' sometimes putting his own safety in jeopardy plus he is a very good kick. We have tried a gazillion small forwards yet none of them have come close to being the next Eddie Betts (yes, they are lofty heights to achieve) but once again, maybe we have one in our midst but don't know unless we give it a trial.      

By dropping some non-performers to the VFL & rewarding those in the VFL who are (normally that is) performing to a high level creates competition for positions plus ensures there is a little more desperation in the contest & chase.

Furthermore, trialling a couple of players in new roles could have major benefits for us, if they don't work then so be it, we haven't lost anything. 

FFS, we have flipped Silvagni & Kemp around which has had some success so we should be more open to reinventing player roles.

We don't have to be cavalier and reckless about this, just work smarter, not harder.

We should win easily, Charlie should emulate Hogan and kick his usual bag of plenty vs the West Coast easies.
It's a good time  to try and get everyone a kick and if Harry and Elijah want an easing in game then this is it even if they only play 20 minutes.

They don't turn up to play, they don't have a go and they give up when it gets too hard. They don't hit their targets, they either don't know what the game plan, don't believe in it, or refuse to follow it. They don't run, they don't tackle, they don't chase, they don't block, and they don't try. They drop marks,  they   miss goals and their ball handling is poor. Their decision making is poor,  their footy IQ is poor and their game awareness is pathetic.
The Club's culture was broken by Elliott 25 to 30 years ago and nobody has been able to fix it. We have changed players,  changed coaches, changed presidents, changed CEO'S, changed boards, changed football managers, changed recruiters and probably changed the mascot, but it doesn't change anything. We have had Vossy,Vossy, Vossy, and Cookie, Cookie, Cookie, and Juddy, Malthouse, Pagen and other Messiahs, we have had resets, top ups, rebuilds, bottoming outs and high expectations. All to no avail. Everyone comes into the place and think that all we need is their special brand of sauce and everything with be fine but it never is. We have fixed up our books, fixed our facilities, fixed up the administration and fixed up the football department. All to no avail. So it has to be something else.
Winners win because they win, losers lose because they lose. Sometimes you have got to win by not losing. Until the Club names its problem it is never going to change.

Why was Boyd dropped? He who has a bit of mongrel? Was he sick?

Players are like Jekyll and Hyde. Play well in the first, then not in the second. Hodge thinks this is psychological and I agree. Emma Murray.

Quote from: kruddler – on April 03, 2025, 09:36:06 pm

We brought in Moir, LL is already complaining about him.

I have genuine high hopes for Moir but he has hardly been sighted which is the complete opposite of what I was expecting.