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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Last post by LP -
Quote from: kruddler on
To take emotion out of something that is extremely emotional...
Could this be "the pandemic the earth had to have" ??

As humans, our ignorance towards the killing of mother earth is one thing.
Our ignorance towards some relatively basic health methods is another....and ironically....could become a mass extinction of our species, and go a large way towards healing the earth in the process.

Just something different to think about.
Yes, it is an interesting concept, a natural feedback mechanism, and it is a behaviour reflected in many natural systems that exhibit boom and bust cycles.

People think this is the "The Pandemic", but at this moment we are still talking tens of millions when the earth has billions of people on it. The money being spent is to stop that tens of millions number turning into hundreds of millions. It's very very serious business that makes the economic rationalist argument to save a few pennies trivial, trivial in relation to the relative potential total risk. If that number goes up an order of magnitude you'll be talking about wars as well.

Unfortunately, that leaves the solution as a people problem, and the way society's controlled behaviour unravels at the first sign of a drop in numbers is pretty pathetic. It looks like humans will keep shooting them-self in the foot with a virus laden bullet.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle
Last post by LP -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Dropping the ball isnt a free....its either holding the ball or play on, the player has to attempt to kick or handball, grey area arises in what is termed incorrect disposal and where the ball is knocked out of a players hands in a tackle.
Also how long does a player get to dispose of the ball, what constitutes a successful tackle where judgement can be made on the above?......all open to interpretation and abuse.
Yes, it's pretty clear, the problem is using interpretations rather than literally umpiring the rules.

While I agree dropping the pill isn't a rule, it's clear professionally dropping the pill is a trend, in my opinion if you drop the pill it's incorrect disposal and as far as I know there are only two ways to legally dispose of the ball. Having it ripped out of your arms by a team-mate was sometimes penalised years ago, now it's a free for all football pass the parcel to the nearest team-mate. I'd have no problem if only opposition were allowed to dispossess the ball carrier by stripping the footy. But to counter that effect if a 3rd or 4th person joins in the tackle, the gang tackling should be penalised for holding the man even if your own team-mate has the footy. Having a team-mate hold the footy to your chest shouldn't be a defence for failing to dispose of the ball. End of gang tackling, over and done!

I've never understood why the AFL bows down to belligerent coaches that bitch and moan about how unfair the game is to their players. They always have some tactical advantage hidden behind their agenda for their own team, and yet the AFL keeps fudging the rules based on the bitching and moaning coaches.

btw., This isn't the same as the SPS or Kelly events, which is a case of obvious rules either not being implemented or totally ignored.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: LordLucifer on
I'd like to see some smart changes for this match, Freo have some seriously good young talent who are all very quick so we need to match that.

B: Docherty, Weitering, Plowman
HB: McGovern, Jones, Simpson
C: Petrevski-Seton, Cripps, Walsh
HF: Fisher, Casboult, Cuningham
F: Betts, McKay, Gibbons
R: Pittonet, Kennedy, Setterfield
I/C:  DeKoning, Dow, E. Curnow, O'Brien

IN : Dow, O'Brien
OUT : Martin, Murphy

smart changes? Lose 2 of our best runners? 1 might be forced.

FYI, McGovern would be an 'in', as would Harry.
Outs would have to include Cottrell and Newnes

So you've matched their speed by making our team slower and less mobile overall.
Smart.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: shawny on
Gee I hope Walters doesn’t return this week.  Fyfe, Walters, Mundy, Brayshaw will be stronger then what we have in there.

Wouldn’t mind seeing Eddie get some midfield minutes - he is a smart user and brings others into the game if he is not touching it much near goal not sure what we lose by giving him some time on the ball.

This will be another game that will be won and lost in the middle imo and Walters playing or not playing could sway the result imo.

Agree..Walters is a bogeyman and we dont really have a matchup down back for him.....hope we man Fyfe and dont let him just play off Cripps that never seems to work vs Freo and Fyfe always is a good player. Setterfield for Mundy, I'd tag Fyfe with Curnow, tough gig given Fyfe is a bigger unit but Ed is the fittest and best bet IMO.
I wouldnt play both Dow and Obrien either, I'd just pick the one if we go that way....
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle
Last post by LordLucifer -
I'd like to see some smart changes for this match, Freo have some seriously good young talent who are all very quick so we need to match that.

B: Docherty, Weitering, Plowman
HB: McGovern, Jones, Simpson
C: Petrevski-Seton, Cripps, Walsh
HF: Fisher, Casboult, Cuningham
F: Betts, McKay, Gibbons
R: Pittonet, Kennedy, Setterfield
I/C:  DeKoning, Dow, E. Curnow, O'Brien

IN : Dow, O'Brien
OUT : Martin, Murphy
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Last post by everblue -
Quote from: LP on
Bit sad for NZ, they took such a massive social and fiscal hit going for eradication, and it seems it has failed.

Not sure it has failed just yet. 

They had 4 instances of community transmission and have instigated a 3 day lock down.

I think this a reasonably conservative reaction to a small but unexpected infection.  Not an over-reaction.  And certainly not the under-reaction that is playing out across many jurisdictions.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: LP on
Bit sad for NZ, they took such a massive social and fiscal hit going for eradication, and it seems it has failed.

That probably says more about human hubris than it does about medicine or society, I can't imagine that they did what they did in ignorance of the history of Spanish Flu. It was a high risk high reward strategy, and they'll be on the Isolation Merry-Go-Round now with the bulk of the rest of the planet!

Things might become even worse in the Northern Hemisphere in coming months, humanity is not taking is seriously, I've mates in the UK, Italy and Germany are very concerned. They tell me people are giving up trying to isolate and stay safe, the younger general public has an air of entitlement, for a freedom that comes at the expense of others. The dwindling oldies, those handful remaining from the war, think isolation is a relative doddle.

To take emotion out of something that is extremely emotional...
Could this be "the pandemic the earth had to have" ??

As humans, our ignorance towards the killing of mother earth is one thing.
Our ignorance towards some relatively basic health methods is another....and ironically....could become a mass extinction of our species, and go a large way towards healing the earth in the process.

Just something different to think about.